BM Minato vs SM Hashirama

[Demonic.]

it's obvious that BM minato is superior by quite some margin...
since it has been debated many times, i'll address just one thing...
madara's reacting to tobirama and it's relation with minato...
1st: people say, madara reacted to ftg which is instant... that statement is in itself wrong and a fallacy...
nothing can react to instant... do you really think, if tobirama attacked instantly, madara or anyone could have reacted? lol then how naruto and sasuke damaged madara? they sure weren't faster than instant...

2nd: tobirama's use of ftg is ambiguous... we never saw him throwing a kunai and still people say he used ftg... he may have just shunshined there and later used ftg... also his running pose suggests it...
3rd: tobirama admitted inferiority to base minato in almost everything...
4th: madara was considerably stronger than hashirama in the form he dodged tobirama...
5th: BM enhances almost every ability and that too proportionally.... see naruto for example..
6th: doesn't that make BM minato exponentially faster than tobirama?
7th: minato battle against obito and madara actually prove it as with KCM he was able to avoid obito's further attack i.e enhanced reactions while failed to do so against madara even with SM... i think that says it all just how above BM minato is of tobirama...
minato easily outclasses hashirama in almost everything with BM..

lastly, the only argument i'm gonna see is going to be madara dodged tobirama with SM so can hashirama... it's like saying jiraya can dodge everything minato and naruto can in SM.. it's the basic skill that matters... madara was already on par with SM hashirama before sage mode at least in reactions department, his battle with him proved it many times... otherwise madara would have died in an instant while fighting with taijutsu as he did in many battles... and then he received SM, a substantial boost... and still was barely able to react to a lot slower shinobi compared to BM minato...

Lmao, the fail in this post. FTG is instant, the time it takes Tobirama/Minato to land an attack after the teleportation itself is what gets reacted to.

-Hashirama has Kurama sized chakra, so how is BM Minato superior to Hashirama by a "margin " Lol
-Hashirama's entire arsenal is anti Biju
-Minato wears out his avatar after a few minutes of spamming attacks
-Hashirama can easily catch any TBB thrown at him, he can heal from Rasengans
-Minato dies

 

[pallinmurskaaja]

Minato lacks confidence to go againts hashirama
Kyuubi inside him know he is no match

If madara handled tobirama that easily, hashirama can handle 3kyuubi's and 5 minato at same time..

 

[A v i]

Hashirama wins high dif.

 

[BLAZE]

Hashirama wins

 

[EKSITE]

Hashrama takes this mid diff

As soon as Hashirama use MayFlower to fuse with the Giant Shinnsenjuu Statue its over

1. Sage mode makes your body more durable
2. Enhance senses with Sage mode
3. Reaction,Speed,Strength,ninjutsu Enhance


I don't see how bijuu dama going to be enough to kill Hashirama didn't a full kyuubi charkra with perfect susano sword slash came barraging at Hashirama before it only broke the statues 1000 arms the statue ws still moving an still had his front arms , what is have the powered bijuu dama going to do? On top of Hashirama healing ability and to absorb chakra from his appoins

 

[TRE MERCER]

People realize Minato can only keep BM up for about 8mins lmao just some brain food for you Minato wankers...

 

[ARGUS]

People realize Minato can only keep BM up for about 8mins lmao just some brain food for you Minato wankers...

actually even that is unlikely
minato has only used BM once, meaning that his limit is most likely 5 mins

 

[Unorthodox]

Actually, mathematically it's possible for Minato's FTG to be "more instant" than Tobirama's, since the FTG is infinte speed, but some infinities are greater than other infinities! Lol. Anyways, once the buddha comes out, I don't see how Minato wins.

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And yeah, if Hashirama does really have comparable CQC to Madara, how did those black rods end up on his back with Madara not being physically damaged? How did Hashirama during his battle against Madara, was physically torn and more damaged than Madara?

Hashirama canonly had Madara finished untill naruto threw that giant ass rasengan also Madara didnt have physical damage because he was an edo.

Minato can send his TBB and redirect it via Space Time Barrier. It could be useful for creating behind the back attacks, especially against Shinnsusenju.

The back of Shinsuujutsu had 1000 plus hands the ttb gets swatted.

What Hashirama supporters don't understand is the workings of the Hiraishin no jutsu! I'll explain one aspect of Hiraishin that will make it perfectly clear that all of Hashirama's arsenal becomes useless against the Hiraishin no Jutsu of the Yondaime Hokage U_U

I mean I've seen the same guys who are supporting Hashirama here say Obito's Kamui negs him or Sasuke Rinneblitz his ass etc sad part however is the fact that Minato's Jikukan Ninjutsu is greater than either of those guys.

Minato didnt escape god tree nor did he escape a goudama

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Hashirama wins low-med diff add naruto in the scenario doesnt change

 

[lucario14]

Could minato make bm clones? If so I can see him losing high diff. His ftg can just swap with bm clones to get close to him or evade hand attacks by the SS. Meanwhile the bm clones fire bd from many directions. Bm has good mobility as well if we use naruto's bm mobility as a yardstick. Before minato runs out of chakra from excessive chakra usage, he'll try to take hashirama down but cannot get by his defenses and superior sensing. If it was bsm minato then he'll win no doubt

 

[Gold Lightning]

Could minato make bm clones? If so I can see him losing high diff. His ftg can just swap with bm clones to get close to him or evade hand attacks by the SS. Meanwhile the bm clones fire bd from many directions. Bm has good mobility as well if we use naruto's bm mobility as a yardstick. Before minato runs out of chakra from excessive chakra usage, he'll try to take hashirama down but cannot get by his defenses and superior sensing. If it was bsm minato then he'll win no doubt

KCM clones and base clones are all he would be able to do in BM. I think you need rikudo chakra to di it in BM

 

[Unorthodox]

Could minato make bm clones? If so I can see him losing high diff. His ftg can just swap with bm clones to get close to him or evade hand attacks by the SS. Meanwhile the bm clones fire bd from many directions. Bm has good mobility as well if we use naruto's bm mobility as a yardstick. Before minato runs out of chakra from excessive chakra usage, he'll try to take hashirama down but cannot get by his defenses and superior sensing. If it was bsm minato then he'll win no doubt

BSM adds nothing as Hashirama still swats any tbb Minato is not bypassing Shinsuusenjutzu range witch is mountain range

 

[lucario14]

BSM adds nothing as Hashirama still swats any tbb Minato is not bypassing Shinsuusenjutzu range witch is mountain range

Yes it does. Minato's speed, strength, chakra and senses are greatly enhanced in sage mode which means he can use ftg much more effectively to get close to hashirama and get him with a charged bd. This is hypothetical though he only wins if he can make bsm clones which is made easier by the chakra boost from senjutsu. Mokuton can nullify the kyuubi chakra but can it nullify the kyuubi chakra enhanced with senjutsu?

 

[Gold Lightning]

BSM is more than possible, he has all the requirements. Kurama avatar also boosts the speed of gathering natural energy. And Yin Kurama is on good terms with minato, so he won't get in the way.

Minatos tbbs will get super powered up.

 

[Haizaki]

Only Minato fans I can take seriously are Bogard and BenjaminGaiye...Most of the others ruin his character. I personally think Gaara's speed is on Par with 8G Gai's speed since it was keeping up with Gai's speed in that scenario . Not to mention Lee was following his movements(with no special eye) in the 6G and threw a Kunai before Gai could move. Such feat from Lee as well keeping up with Gai's full speed.

Maybe Lee is faster than Minato as well? Don't forget this incredible speed feat

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He bumped in leaving Minato surprised before he could act. Wow Minato fans Don't you agree?