BM Minato vs Orochimaru
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Nope.
And btw, I'm on my tablet atm, so you won't be getting two paragraph refutations out of me today.
EDIT: You Minatards are hilarious. Base Minato > Orochimaru? l0l good one... Now gtfo. If any version of Minato was superior to Orochimaru, then why is one of Orochimaru's most intricate, complex techniques - Edo Tensei - always restricted in these Minato v Orochimaru matchups? Because, as any average person who utilizes at least 10% of their brain would know, an unrestricted Orochimaru would waste any version of Minato.
Okay, NOW I'm done here.
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Unorthodox
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orchimaru with edos > Minato ***** ass hell oro with edo hashirama solos BM minato
OT Minato wins
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I'm going to make this thread interesting by going w/ the latter.
Since Orochimaru absorbed Zetsu, and he fully know what Zetsu abilities are capable of, he will take advantage with their jutsu for its evasiveness. This jutsu is MayFly. The safest way of Mayfly is to add it with Oral Rebirth[
Offensively, Orochimaru cannot hurt Minato. But what he can do it temper with the four element seal[
Orochimaru can also be useful by sending out Mandara no Jin. Will elaborate:
--I think we should take consideration that snake summon should deserve credibility when it comes to concealing items or people. Now I wont be posting links (so use your memory here). Through out the manga, ever since Orochimaru demonstration, he had use a snake to conceal his legendary weapon, Kusanagi. Other times snakes has done this is when Kabuto modified his body into a snake. When he ate Yamato, he had no way or bursting out of him. Last Sage Kabuto was confident, during white rage, that a vulnerable Sasuke cannot escape if he were to swallow and capture him. Even fully knowing what Sasuke was capable of, via Sussanoo and I think Amaterasu (doesn't matter). So in the end that concludes that Snakes have the ability to conceal things that it is able to eat.
Orochimaru using Mandara no Jin, and the fact that those snakes were able to release swords out of their mouths, suggest they can eat one too. That said Mandara no Jin can target Minato's FTG marks and eat them all. Of course, to avoid Kurama's shockwave, they will be spread out so they don't pile to their deaths. Once any snake were to eat his Kunai's, they can conceal its uses and leave/desummon from the battlefield.
Hiruzen can play two roles here. Using Raiton combo to bolt and deteriorate BM cloak and using Shadow Shiruken Clone to expand Tobirama FTG Kunai markings. Using Shadow Shiruken is self explanatory. Tobirama's Kunai simply multiples by hundards with Hiruzens support
Using Raiton is the best element to penetrate chakra cloak. Kakashi had demonstrated this against KCM Naruto [
Reasonably Minato should be able to remove the 5 element seal, but timing is crucial in this match up.
Conclusions:
-Orochimaru can set 5 element seal to block Minato's use of using Kurama, with the help of Edos. He can also use Mandara no Jin to have them eat and conceal Minato FTG markings
-Tobirama can be use for support for dodging lethal attack with FTG. Or use FTG to get close to Minato.
- Hiruzen can expand Tobirama's markings by creating clones of it. Use Raiton to either penetrate BM cloak, or create a gap opening for other attacks to breach Minato.
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Since Orochimaru absorbed Zetsu, and he fully know what Zetsu abilities are capable of, he will take advantage with their jutsu for its evasiveness. This jutsu is MayFly. The safest way of Mayfly is to add it with Oral Rebirth[
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]. Not only that but he will be safe with Tobirama tagging him along. Once Tobirama tags him, he simply transport him away from danger, through his own markings, of course[
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] (Or one can argue that Tobirama can force Minato's FTG link).Offensively, Orochimaru cannot hurt Minato. But what he can do it temper with the four element seal[
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] by adding the 5 element seal on to it. It won't be easy considering he will need to breached BM avatar. And the fact the Minato can avoid it with speed and FTG. But w/ Tobirama supports there can be a possibility to reach and imprint him[
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] by having him FTG to him.Orochimaru can also be useful by sending out Mandara no Jin. Will elaborate:
Snake Summoning Credibility.
--I think we should take consideration that snake summon should deserve credibility when it comes to concealing items or people. Now I wont be posting links (so use your memory here). Through out the manga, ever since Orochimaru demonstration, he had use a snake to conceal his legendary weapon, Kusanagi. Other times snakes has done this is when Kabuto modified his body into a snake. When he ate Yamato, he had no way or bursting out of him. Last Sage Kabuto was confident, during white rage, that a vulnerable Sasuke cannot escape if he were to swallow and capture him. Even fully knowing what Sasuke was capable of, via Sussanoo and I think Amaterasu (doesn't matter). So in the end that concludes that Snakes have the ability to conceal things that it is able to eat.
Orochimaru using Mandara no Jin, and the fact that those snakes were able to release swords out of their mouths, suggest they can eat one too. That said Mandara no Jin can target Minato's FTG marks and eat them all. Of course, to avoid Kurama's shockwave, they will be spread out so they don't pile to their deaths. Once any snake were to eat his Kunai's, they can conceal its uses and leave/desummon from the battlefield.
Hiruzen can play two roles here. Using Raiton combo to bolt and deteriorate BM cloak and using Shadow Shiruken Clone to expand Tobirama FTG Kunai markings. Using Shadow Shiruken is self explanatory. Tobirama's Kunai simply multiples by hundards with Hiruzens support
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Using Raiton is the best element to penetrate chakra cloak. Kakashi had demonstrated this against KCM Naruto [
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] but of course BM cloak is superior defense here. But I can say that logically and reasonably with Hiruzen Raiton attack compare to Kakashi. Not only that but Hiruzen can simply use 2-5 times the damage by having Clones doing the same Raiton attack. Minato either gets wounded badly (depending on where its aimed) or Hiruzen creates a gap to where Tobirama can warp Orochimaru to the opening, where he can land the 5 element seal on Minato's chest.Reasonably Minato should be able to remove the 5 element seal, but timing is crucial in this match up.
Conclusions:
-Orochimaru can set 5 element seal to block Minato's use of using Kurama, with the help of Edos. He can also use Mandara no Jin to have them eat and conceal Minato FTG markings
-Tobirama can be use for support for dodging lethal attack with FTG. Or use FTG to get close to Minato.
- Hiruzen can expand Tobirama's markings by creating clones of it. Use Raiton to either penetrate BM cloak, or create a gap opening for other attacks to breach Minato.
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If Minato can use a contract seal on Tobi that can become intangible and react to Raikage attempting to blitz him don't tell me Minato can't use a contract seal on Orochimaru. At which point, his summoned edos will turn on Orochimaru and rape his ass.
Minato wrecks him
--His FTG speed is far too much for Orochimaru to react added to the fact that his base speed in BM would also allow him to blitz orochimaru and mark him rather easily
--his firepower is far too much for orochimaru, as all his summons, defenses and hydra are nuked off the planet through TBB barrages
--his kurama avatar durability allows him to tank all of orochimarus attacks with little to no damage,
--restricting ET just makes it easier for Minato to stomp,
--His FTG speed is far too much for Orochimaru to react added to the fact that his base speed in BM would also allow him to blitz orochimaru and mark him rather easily
--his firepower is far too much for orochimaru, as all his summons, defenses and hydra are nuked off the planet through TBB barrages
--his kurama avatar durability allows him to tank all of orochimarus attacks with little to no damage,
--restricting ET just makes it easier for Minato to stomp,
What's funny is that I think you're actually serious l0l. Second day in a row? You lost the first day, though. You even admitted that you only posed a possible way Minato could win in one of the two scenarios on that thread yesterday, and you used the same trivial argument too xD.
You really must be a full retard if you think Orochimaru is just going to stand there and let Minato seal Tobirama or Hiruzen; the former alone will make sure that doesn't happen, as he's practically equal to Minato, in speed.
I know I said I was done, but I had to respond to this laughable post.
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Brother Numpsay
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Then that would be consider a troll/spite thread considering the match wasn't consider to be balance without it. And aren't here to support Orochimaru under contract or not.
It's not spite it's fact. If Orochimaru used edo Tensei to revive Hashi, Tobirama, and Hiruzen to fight Minato and Minato used contract seal on Orochimaru. Then that would make the fight Minato, Hiruzen, Tobirama, Hashirama vs Orochimaru, wouldn't it?
That's not my point. I'm saying if Minato was fast enough to use Contract Seal on Tobi who can become intangible, you honestly think Minato won't use contract seal on Orochimaru? Everyone already knows contract seal will release edos from the control of the caster like any other summoning jutsu. That is already proven.
Yeah...if the Edo Hokages just stand there and hold their d*cks. -_-
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It doesn't matter Minato is too fast. Tobirama admitted speed inferiority to Minato....they're all getting tagged. Hiruzen's old ass was able to grab on to Hashi, Tobirama, and Orochimaru for the reaper death seal. I'm pretty sure Minato is faster than 70 year old Hiruzen....