BM Minato vs Kabuto SM ?
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He isn't faster than KCM Naruto, not sure where you got that bullshit from. Kabuto has extraordinary reactions in sage mode but even so, Kabuto is outmatched when it comes to speed, reactions and firepower. Nothing he does will work, he eventually gets bombed into smithereens.
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SusanOO could not be dodged by V2 A according to Sasuke. He surprised himself when kabuto dodged it. Bijuudama wont be trouble when his liquified body plus NE hardness + Uzumaki durability which tanked V2 Bee attack'll tank it. Kabuto can speedrace Bijuudama also. Terra Shield + Senjutsu could stop it. Muki tensei crashes him from bottom. White rage crushes him from frontier.
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Oh my goodness me. Now I understand why they call you the biggest dumbass on this site.
Sasuke never stated that so please, stop fabricating the manga to support your stupendous claims. Amaterasu is Sasuke's quickest attack and Ay sidestepped it from about 10 meters, and anything reactionary regarding Ay we can attribute to BM Minato who dodged V2 Ay. If you're seriously going to argue Kabuto > Minato in speed because he dodged an arrow, then please don't respond.
And then you're seriously comparing V2 Bee's attack to Kurama's TBB, which is a rather embarrassing proposition to bring forth. Suigetsu also had a liquefied body but he got knocked the **** out by Bee's uncompressed TBB, in his giant water form, which absorbs more damage than an untransformed human sized being. Lets not forget Kurama's TBB stalemated the combined TBB of 5 Bijuu. If Kabuto gets hit by that he becomes ashes, this isn't debatable. No form of mild regeneration and liquefaction is helping something that's already been bypassed by a weaker attack in the manga. Not even gonna entertain that speed race or Jirobo's fodder dome wall.
You might wanna learn how Muki Tensei works. It only affects non organic material. You specified a grassy plain, which makes that entire attack useless but even still, not sure how Muki Tensei plays any role here whatsoever. Kurama's Bijuu tails tanked a Juubi laser in the manga, even if it did work the chances of it hurting Minato is the same as Kabuto's chances in this match, zero. White rage becomes irrelevant when Minato can teleport, the blinding light and noise does absolutely nothing to him when he can create mass distance.
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Utterly wrong.
Minato dont get TBB feats of Naruto which we know is nothing short of delusion at finest.
What Minato'll get is his puny feats in war which is getting blitzed by unconcious Juubito, getting slapped by inexperienced Juubito, getting speedouted by SusanoO constructed Sasuke. This is what he gets. Naruto wields Yang Kurama which refers to physical power. Minato refers to mental chakra. If anything his mental reactions have increased, his TBB would have lower affect than Naruto's TBB, way lower actually even if I've to be kind enough to give him.
EMS Sasuke outsped him. Why was Sasuke surprised when Kabuto dodged his arrow? Obviously because his former opponents cant dodge it. We dont need brilliant garguantuan IQ to understand grasp simple concepts. Such as these. V2 A never got dodged by Minato quit making shit up the only version he 'dodged' with Flying god technique is V1 so drop fanfic in elsewhere as we know we should. Raikage was still confident he could blitz Minato with full speed Kabuto rapes base Minato easily by that argumentation. Ftg is not helping him here when Kabuto can send Sage Energy into the deep underground pulverisingly uprooting inanimation into gigantic wallicular structural components stopping TBB weak bombs effortlessly. Not even Kusanagi blade can cut through it only black flames can burn through it which proves its superiority. We're underrating Terra Barrier arent we? Did we know it is strongest barrier in density strength in NV among 3/ few more? Did we know Cursed Seal increased Power 10 times over which is grantation of the worst weak seal? Kabuto enhanced this seal with Curse seal of Heaven the strong powerfullest Seal of Curse + he added Sage Rays into this componnent to further ammunite it's denseness as we know. More than proof it'll obliterate Tailed Beast Ball. Manda 2 stronger than original manda could tank it even. White Fear rekts his little sense valves into little pieces because of it's widespread attack speed, penetrates even SusanoO which is a greater defense than Gaara Sand Mother. Penetratifies his Kurama Shield and rekts his innsides. Paralysation is unovercomable aspect of this technique FTG isnt doing anything here. Even if he teleportation's out he'll be caught when he appears as we know his little nit limitations.
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Minato has already attacked in tandem with Naruto to formulate a TBB. Your proposition regarding Yin-Yang release is an exemplification of your lack of manga comprehension, as usual. Physical and Mental energy has nothing to do with TBB, as it 100% pure chakra, which is what all the Bijuu are, absolute manifestations of chakra. Minato having 50% of Kurama’s chakra means he has the means to replicate an attack which doesn’t fall under the Yang category, nor does it fall under the Yin category. It is simply pure chakra release which doesn’t fall under a specialist sub category; the only prerequisite to use it is to have and manipulate the Bijuu’s chakra depending on the size you want the ball, period.
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By former opponents you mean Kakashi and Danzo? Those same guys who aren’t even in the same stratosphere as Naruto when it comes to speed/reactions? Your argument has no correlations, you’re just mixing and matching different and quite frankly, irrelevant feats in order to find some substance for your claims.
You do not understand the difference between movement speed and reaction time. Kabuto NEVER exemplified MOVEMENT speed, he exemplified good reactionary skill by bending his body in his SNAKE form. That is a massive difference which by no means translates into him being faster than KCM Naruto. And it definitely doesn't give him a speed advantage against the yellow flash :lol
Lmaooooo, Minato never dodged V2 Ay? Now I understand I’m wasting my time. For you to even say that shows me you actually haven’t read the manga. Anyway, Ay disagrees with you.
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Save me the trouble of having to explain to you that the reason why Ay’s hair was down, was because he was wearing a head band. Can you at least understand that much?
I’ve already explained to you Muki Tensei doesn’t work on organic material, which is what grass is, an organic material. Damn, you’d think the name “Inorganic reanimation” was a giveaway.
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I’ve also already explained to you that Kurama’s cloak was able to tank a Juubi laser and a V2 cloak managed to withstand Orochimaru’s Kusanagi blade. What will uprooting shit even do here, offensively? FTG knives will still be present among them and Minato cannot be hurt by the technique. As for stopping TBB, you might as well just say part 1 Gaara's sand shield can stop it at this point.
Stop mentioning that fodder part 1 technique, I beg you. It’s feats are stopping part 1 Choji’s assault and moving some Amaterasu flames. And here you are using it as a defence against a technique which VAPORIZES mountains. Increase its power by 1000 and it still gets negged by TBB lmao.
White rage bypassed Susano’o because it is sound and visual based, it isn’t a physical attack. That is why it bypassed Susano’o, nothing more nothing less. You claiming it will still catch Minato “when he comes back” is ridiculous, white rage isn’t an everlasting technique; it dispels itself after a few moments as seen in the manga. It is a paralysis technique used in order to create a momentary opening to attack, but Minato’s speed makes that impossible here. FTG works through mental activation.
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Please read what we just posted. We posted a scan proving Minato can use TBB. Did we state he cant use TBB? No we did not. We only states Minato's TBB would be much much, weaker than Naruto's because his version dominates physical department because of its Yang Ingenuity. Minato do not have a feat using TBB only way to gauge it power is through evaluation of its substantial properties which propertifies this blast of chakra. Nine Tails Chakra is divided between Yin and Yang. He sealed Yang in Naruto along with Kushina + his chakras for future meetification. Implying Naruto's Yang>Yin Chakra TBB hence cannot correlated to share each other feats. That's a big fallacy like giving Itachi Genjutsu feats to Sasuke because he have his eyes. Techniques dont equate to owner's property.
It's called Portrayal. SusanoO arrow should be omnipotent until Kabuto dodges it because Sasuke has fought the current fastest man in the world whom pressurified Naruto only dodging last minute through sensation powers of hostility acquired from Mitto. A arrived with Killing Thoughts when charged at him.
- Kabuto reacted, reflexected, dodged(movement). Without speed to dodge something even if we react we cannot evade said something. Naruto Manga Rule established in part 1. Lee Vs Sasuke battle for reference. Senjutsu and Natural Energy and Sage Mode increases every power oriented property of castor and enhances all statifications instantly for Kabuto he always constant meditation in Sage Energified State, thereby factualizing he's rejuvenated + enhanced all the time.
- We gotta learn how Reanimation Inanimatorification works. It install's life like properties to inanimation which we know. Just because grass present on area where technique construction is happening doesn't mean said technique would not work. Nowhere we know is stated Inamatorifiyament woould not apply to life like environment's it's a fallacy. He could burrow through deep ground reach a location which do not possess life down deep under roots of tree-plantifical substances. Then uproot said grass from beneath. FTG kunais'll be removalified from said environment simply because the rock forceficatively removes it from it's 'body'. We know it becomes life-like.
- Sasuke Kusanagi pierced Juuuuubidara. Orochimaru Kusanagi failed piercifying because of 4 Tailed Fox catching it in it's hands. Naruto is Asura Incarnater, cannot die until then so Ashura + Kyuubi help happened.
- Juuubi laser was not tankified by Minato but by BSM Naruto so don't get this point. Minato cannot use Kyuubi Mode and Sage Energicative State combo-lified.
- Jirobo Earth tankificating Chouji's Meat Ball Tosser isn't to be underestimated. Databook states it's(Chouji jutsu) one of the most powerfulest Physical Ability of all time which adding Nine Demon Fox Chakras enabled suppress of Gedo's Mazo Statue. This is with weakest curse seal stage mode. Kimimaro had second strongest Sasuke had best curse seal. Kabuto possesses Sage Energies Stature which enhances Sasuke powerful Seal with Sage Chakra Energy Ray's and adds Uzumaki's(Karin) Durabilitation to the meat which have feats of stopping V2 Killer Bee without crumbling whilst same state of Hachibi Chakra obliterated a part of Kisame's Sword Sameehades which saved it's life by absorbing said chakra reducifying potential accumulated damage. Suigetsu defense is powerful by fact it tanked Tailed Bomb point blank which was laser wave which's extra strong than Ball TBB, as we already know. His physicality is a Garguantine Eradobolation Of Powerful Durabilities in one box. TBB of Minato won't scratch. Mountain breaking has no qualms on said physique either.
- Naruto survived Juubi Laser Blast by Bijuu Sage Energificative State, not a mere Half of Kyuubi's Yin Chakra like Minato. He possessed Yin + Yang + Energy of The Hermit.
- Amaterasu thrown away uselessly is not little feat when we know said Black Fires were Enton which's stronger than Amaterasu burned Juubi added with Rasenshuriken, which's greater than Yellow Flash in all way, shape and form.
- Minato did not dodge full speed headband is no excuse excusing said fact which we know. A states he dodged his super speed punch not his Shunshin speed addified with Punching Speed. He is confident he could slashify him when he appears. Databook reinforces this statement extrapolating on a box of proof A pressurizing KCM with V1.
It do not get dispelled.
- We know SusanoO is perfect defense so nothing bypasses it naturally. Kabuto used a Natural Energy Technique/Jutsu which makes a exceptionist case of sound + light rays passifying SusanOO's Physicality. It traverses his cloak stunnifies him. FTG wont allow subspace retrosleepification. We're aware only Tobi's Kamoooui's power allocates certain box spaces to stay. Minato needs to reappear within short expanse of time when he'll get piercified by Light Rays and Bone Shock.
- In a openificated area space, there would not be any escapibility possibilitifying option.
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Minato's greatest weakness is his lack of raw power. With BM that weakness is removed allowing him to over power Kabuto with relative ease. People forget Kabuto was in his own environment vs the shinobi he was designed to defeat who also could not kill him.
Edo would win it for Kabuto though if allowed as he can summon an OP army.
Edo would win it for Kabuto though if allowed as he can summon an OP army.
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He's not that fast and there was no Blitz since Obito's objective was to seperate Kushina and Minato. Minato made specific reference to Obito's objective. If he wanted to kill Naruto there's nothing Minato could do to stop him.
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