BM Minato is stronger than Healthy Nagato

[~Sovereign~]

I said "can win"... didn't say it was going to be an easy fight haha
also IMO S/T is a nice counter to rinnegan.

Minato rasengans get absorbed??
cool, what about a kunai slash... can Nagato absorb that too??

Minato does have genjutsu! he can summon Ma and Pa... xD

Minato can always use FTG lvl2 to get out of hard situation or to get closer to Nagato...
and what will Nagato do when he touches Minato and gets tagged??

it def wont be easy, this fight will be the hardest diff possible for minato but he has the counters to win

i have minato and nagato tied rank wise actually

 

[TrollingSage]

Nagato has a perfect counter to FTG.
Shinra tensi.
GL marking him.

'BM minato' never really existed..
But let's say he does.

Nagato still wins, if he's healthy he can ST/CT very powerfully, Hide in Summons, Fly away.

If Nagato gets on that bird it's over, Minato has no long range attacks except Bijuudama, Absorbed by preta..

GG, Nagato wins mid dif

You do of course realize Minato doesn't have to aim tbb directly at Nagato for him to absorb right? He can aim at at anywhere within the radius of the explosion of tbb and Nagato will get caught up in the explosion.

 

[Voidstep]

What is Minato going to do during the 5 seconds?
Seriously, what.
All his ninjutsu is nullified, no genjutsu.
Is he going to punch him?

Nagato's CT/ST are MUCH MUCH Stronger than deva paths, Minato is NOT tanking them.





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I don't know why I keep replying.

weak counter....

Minato can always throw a kunai and use FTG level 2 to get Nagato in the 5 sec interval...

why do you keep talking about punching when slashing people with a kunai is part of his fighting style!?!? seriously...

BM continuous TBB will destroy CT.
Nagato can't absorb continous TBB either... he'll get hit by the others while he's absorbing the 1st one, or he'll get blitzed and slashed while absorbing them....

 

[xxSasukEkUnxX]

I already counter this

bm mode tanked the juubi's nuke, im sure this is more power than ST/CT

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False. It didn't tank shit dude lol. How do you think incomplete susano'o tanked it? They were out of it's range. Incomplete Susano'os defense is WAY lower than BMS.

wrong

if nagato uses ST to counter the kunai that minato scatter, he would have to wait 5 second and im 100% sure this is more than enough time for minato to throw a kunai at nagato and teleport to nagato and nagato has absolute no counter for minato at close range without ST (gotta wait 5 seconds)

4 of nagato's path require physical contract
animal path is own by toad summons and contract seal

deva path is the only challenge

Are you forgetting he has two ways of flight? Able to fly higher than the village of konoha to birds eye view standpoint in SECONDS with a medium of his power? Are you forgetting this is not deva path or sick nagato, but HEALTHY PRIME NAGATO?

Shinra Tensei wipes out ANY chance of getting close by repelling his body into itself, destroying more than half of it each time. Clones and such get wiped out by them too, along with bansho ten'in. Every time you kill the cerberus, it multiplies itself by 2, unless you attack Nagato, which is impossible once he is flying.

Asura Path grabs, Human Path stops, etc.

Heat Seeking Missles are extremely good for the clones and wasting his chakra on S/T barriers and distracting his attention, plus they take no chakra.

Bansho Ten'in counters any type of blitz, removes FTG Kunai put in tricky areas, etc.

Preta Path is an endless whirlpool that absorbs any attack no matter what the scale. That is a direct quote from the databook. Rasengan is not just futile, it's actually a STUPID move. Super-mini TBB, if he has it gets absorbed too.

Naraka is not useless either, his plans can be learned from a clone and if it is lying, it can be killed. Every single one of his next steps from one little lie using Nagato's intellect as one of the smartest in the series can be predicted, while Minato is smarter nagato is unpredictable. Also blitzing doesn't = unpredictable.

Furthermore, chakra poles stop him too, especially the ones used to bind full EDO BIJUU.

This is a pointless fight.. Everything in minato's arsenal is countered subtly.

 

[~Sovereign~]

Nope.
If Minato throws a Kunai while CT is there it's sucked up, so he'd just be teleporting to the centre of the CT

Toad summons < ST.
Contract seals require physical contact, the one thing that you just said Nagato can't do.

The ONLY thing Minato can do Is genjutsu OR Taijutsu.

He has no genjutsu.
If he tries to punch Nagato, he gets drained of all chakra and torn into pieces.

ninjutsu DOES WORK on nagato, it just has to be a surprise attack

read the OP, nagato's paths DO NOT take affect right away, nagato used human and naraka path on naruto for a LONG time and he didn't even get to finish, this is more than enough time for minato to escape with ftg

if nagato touches minato, minato can touch nagato back (grabs his wrist) and now nagato is marked (killer bee wasn't even completely drain, he still used the 8 tails right afterwards)

preta path takes time to completely drain the opponent

and like i said if nagato wound minato, kyuubi is heal minato, and i think its worth it, minato has to get injured once to put a mark on nagato

and even if nagato drain minato's chakra, kyuubi can keep saving more chakra, but now nagato is marked so even kyuubi saves a little chakra minato can warp directly to nagato and finish it

On top of this, it is confirmed that the abilities of Deva Path are pseudo-black holes, with Nagato as the medium.

In any case and any argument, Yang/Yin Kurama are half the size of full Kurama, who could fit in konoha and barely be seen by birds eye view. Chou Shinra Tensei wiped out what village? LOL

Nagato also did it with half of his chakra in a sick state.. Now imagine, after absorbing a TBB, a healthy Chou Shinra Tensei in his HEALTHY Form... LOOOL

Another worst comes to worst (which it won't) situation is Gedou Mazou.

Sorry but Nagato stomps minato into the dirt, lol

minato can tank with bm mode, this>>CT

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[xxSasukEkUnxX]

ninjutsu DOES WORK on nagato, it just has to be a surprise attack

read the OP, nagato's paths DO NOT take affect right away, nagato used human and naraka path on naruto for a LONG time and he didn't even get to finish, this is more than enough time for minato to escape with ftg

if nagato touches minato, minato can touch nagato back (grabs his wrist) and now nagato is marked (killer bee wasn't even completely drain, he still used the 8 tails right afterwards)

preta path takes time to completely drain the opponent

and like i said if nagato wound minato, kyuubi is heal minato, and i think its worth it, minato has to get injured once to put a mark on nagato

and even if nagato drain minato's chakra, kyuubi can keep saving more chakra, but now nagato is marked so even kyuubi saves a little chakra minato can warp directly to nagato and finish it



minato can tank with bm mode, this>>CT

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They only felt the aftershock. That's why Madara's incomplete Susano'o Was able to block it, and why it's arms were crossed in a defense manner. Surely he could not have dissolved that teraton nuke by holding his arms in a straight position? It was a country-busting nuke, the aftershock of it even knocked BM Cloaked people down, lol. And who even cares about CT? Chou Shinra Tensei is enough.

 

[~Sovereign~]

False. It didn't tank shit dude lol. How do you think incomplete susano'o tanked it? They were out of it's range. Incomplete Susano'os defense is WAY lower than BMS.

smh, the nuke was DIRECTLY on the shinobi alliance, madara said something like "that should've cleared the field" but NO ONE DIED because the cloak tanked it and nuke was stronger than ST and CT

CT is countered by tbb and s/t barrier anyway

Are you forgetting he has two ways of flight? Able to fly higher than the village of konoha to birds eye view standpoint in SECONDS with a medium of his power? Are you forgetting this is not deva path or sick nagato, but HEALTHY PRIME NAGATO?

Shinra Tensei wipes out ANY chance of getting close by repelling his body into itself, destroying more than half of it each time. Clones and such get wiped out by them too, along with bansho ten'in. Every time you kill the cerberus, it multiplies itself by 2, unless you attack Nagato, which is impossible once he is flying.

Asura Path grabs, Human Path stops, etc.

Heat Seeking Missles are extremely good for the clones and wasting his chakra on S/T barriers and distracting his attention, plus they take no chakra.

Bansho Ten'in counters any type of blitz, removes FTG Kunai put in tricky areas, etc.

Preta Path is an endless whirlpool that absorbs any attack no matter what the scale. That is a direct quote from the databook. Rasengan is not just futile, it's actually a STUPID move. Super-mini TBB, if he has it gets absorbed too.

Naraka is not useless either, his plans can be learned from a clone and if it is lying, it can be killed. Every single one of his next steps from one little lie using Nagato's intellect as one of the smartest in the series can be predicted, while Minato is smarter nagato is unpredictable. Also blitzing doesn't = unpredictable.

Furthermore, chakra poles stop him too, especially the ones used to bind full EDO BIJUU.

This is a pointless fight.. Everything in minato's arsenal is countered subtly.

i already explained how minato tanks ST

IF NAGATO USE THE BIG SHINRA, HE WOULDNT BE ABLE TO USE DEVA PATH FOR A LONG TIME, nagato without deva vs bm minato = GAME OVER

preta path DID NOT drain killer bee, he used the full 8 tails soon afterwards and uses a tbb, preta path does not drain you instantly.

And like i keep saying, if nagato touch minato, minato can touch back TOO (grabs his wrist), and now nagato will be marked

how will nagato counter minato during the 5 second interval, im still waiting on an answer from someone

 

[~Sovereign~]

They only felt the aftershock. That's why Madara's incomplete Susano'o Was able to block it, and why it's arms were crossed in a defense manner. Surely he could not have dissolved that teraton nuke by holding his arms in a straight position? It was a country-busting nuke, the aftershock of it even knocked BM Cloaked people down, lol. And who even cares about CT? Chou Shinra Tensei is enough.

that wasn't the aftershock, what are you talking about??

that huge cloud of smoke coming from the attack was directly on the alliance, didn't you see choji laying in the smoke??

 

[Voidstep]

They only felt the aftershock. That's why Madara's incomplete Susano'o Was able to block it, and why it's arms were crossed in a defense manner. Surely he could not have dissolved that teraton nuke by holding his arms in a straight position? It was a country-busting nuke, the aftershock of it even knocked BM Cloaked people down, lol. And who even cares about CT? Chou Shinra Tensei is enough.

came on now...
TBB Laser that BM tanked from the Juubi > any form of ST.
heck even 6 tails naruto tanked and reversed a ST on Deva's face. BM would do it even easier.

 

[VongolaX]

Yes preach the truth, people need to hop off Nagato's ****.

 

[Bronze]

1. ....KM mode is weak compared to BM mode, and nagato had absorb killer bee's chakra already because he didn't know about deva path, don't try to make it seem like nagato beat them straight up fair and square. Yes, nagato is better than all three of them 1v1 but 3v1 is too much more nagato as this is manga proof, you are speculating.

2. how will nagato counter minato during the 5 second interval??

3. space time barrier counters CT and the cloak counters ST, and like I said nagato has a 5 second interval so how will nagato counter minato's ftg blitz (throwing the kunai and then use FTG), even base naruto took advantage of this time limit, so if you think minato cant, then don't look for a response.

you're assuming Nagato is gonna start off with CST. i have already showed a proof that Minato cannot use FTG in BM. his only feat is TBB in BM and it cannot stop CT which requires TBB + FRS + YM.

Minato cannot get close to Nagato because he is gonna say good bye to the cloak and to his soul.

the dog summoning were overwhelming the toads so the dogs wont get killed.

 

[Ovan]

Hmm.. I like the Paths of pain much more then Nagato himself. I like Minato as a character as-well but to tell the truth, I don't see Minato winning this at all. Nagato is much stronger then the paths. Have alot more chakra to use. When he was fighting Naruto in his handcaped state, he was blowing up villages. Naruto arrived after he used up a bunch of his chakra taking down the village full of shinobi. Plot played a strong roll in this as well.

 

[~Sovereign~]

you're assuming Nagato is gonna start off with CST. i have already showed a proof that Minato cannot use FTG in BM. his only feat is TBB in BM and it cannot stop CT which requires TBB + FRS + YM.

Minato cannot get close to Nagato because he is gonna say good bye to the cloak and to his soul.

the dog summoning were overwhelming the toads so the dogs wont get killed.

1. where is this proof of minato not being able to use FTG in BM mode??? for the 100th time, minato didn't use FTG because he does not have a mark on juubito, he can teleport to juubito if he doesn't have a mark on him, tobirama had a mark on juubi so he had to use his FTG for that moment, why is this so hard to understand??

2. kyuubi BM mode tbb = 5 tail beast tbb

3. nagato's path that require contact (human, naraka, and asura) DO NOT work instantly, do you want me to show you the manga links???

4. preta path DOES NOT COMPLETELY drain the opponent instantly, killer bee used 8 tails and a tbb AFTER nagato drain ALOT from him

 

[~Sovereign~]

Hmm.. I like the Paths of pain much more then Nagato himself. I like Minato as a character as-well but to tell the truth, I don't see Minato winning this at all. Nagato is much stronger then the paths. Have alot more chakra to use. When he was fighting Naruto in his handcaped state, he was blowing up villages. Naruto arrived after he used up a bunch of his chakra taking down the village full of shinobi. Plot played a strong roll in this as well.

im not talking about the 6 path, im talking about healthy nagato

km naruto killer bee and itachi, killed him

minato is a s/t jutsu user so touching minato is nearly impossible, and BM mode is an insane boost to all of minato's abilities. I think minato win IMO

i not saying minato can do this easily....i said minato and nagato was tied rank wise IMO, so this fight is hard as possible for either of them to win...