BM Minato and SM Hashirama take the gauntlet

[Ababeel]

Edo Madara was garbage compared to what he should have been alive, so he isn't even a good reference, not to mention that portion of Rikudo Senjutsu chakra was enough for Obito to use the Gudo Dama. It was enough to enhance all of Kakashi's Sharingan, his Raikiri, his speed and reflexes. Edo Madara's Susanoo was no different, thus no power up.

- Not really, Kabuto stated that Edo Madara is beyond his prime, which he agreed to as well.
- So you're saying the Hagoromo's chakra that madara awakened was useless?

[=Kifflom;17094534]
Yes he can

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that is a huge boost, meaning that his PS slashes are ALOT stronger,

and so was Madara's PS.

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your point?

and can also use them quicker than minato could fire his TBB or Hashirama using his SS,
meaning that repeated PS slashes breach their defenses

says who? You?
Because Minato used his speed before even Gai could move..

Lmao @Bold - he can use them as many times as he wannts,
His Kamui shuriken are simply manifested from his chakra,
he can use them, and he can use his PS slashes as well as his Kamui shuriken to chop off Minatos kurama avatar with ease,

LMAO@ this post.
you're saying Minato will just stay there watching him without moving or doing anything? XD

not to mentino that minato wont be able to teleport anywhere due to the sheer AOE against the onslaught of SS, PS and Kurama

returned to the BS again. Please, bring those AOE that Kakashi showed, I surely don't remember any. lol

and Lol at Hashiramas gates doing anything, one slash, and they get wrecked, and kakashis PS has more than enough mobility to evade the gates as well, or can use kamui to warp them away

stop with the nonsense please. What slashes are you talking about?
proofs, or just stop trolling. Lol

What can they do,,
Kamui shuriken chops off portions of SS bit by bit, and PS slashes alongside Kamui shuriken eradicate minato,
not to mention that the vast AOE bypasses FTG completely meaning that minato wont be able to use his FTG based techniques at all

the shurkings will teleport 4 of Buddha's arms at most, big deal. lol

bring this AOE, is you're truthful...

meaning that minato wont be able to use his FTG based techniques at all

LMOA@ this nonsense. Even the Juubi's AOE meant jacksh*t... XD

in conclusion: Kakashi beats them

yeah, with the nonsensical fan-made feats , then yeah, sure. XD

 

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At the 5th fight they will process no further

 

[KidGamer65]

- Not really, Kabuto stated that Edo Madara is beyond his prime, which he agreed to as well.

Except, Prime Madara and the Madara I'm talking about aren't the same thing.

Edo Madara was garbage compared to what he should have been alive,

Prime Madara=Vote Madara.

The Madara referenced in the bold is an alive version of Edo Madara. Basically Madara w/ both Rinnegan, and Hashirama's DNA and Hagoromo's chakra.

- So you're saying the Hagoromo's chakra that madara awakened was useless?

In his Edo State? Yes. Its either it was so weakened that it didn't matter or he didn't get it back until he was revived. Either way, his PS was shown to be the same in his Edo State.

 

[Ababeel]

Except, Prime Madara and the Madara I'm talking about aren't the same thing.


Prime Madara=Vote Madara.

The Madara referenced in the bold is an alive version of Edo Madara. Basically Madara w/ both Rinnegan, and Hashirama's DNA and Hagoromo's chakra.




In his Edo State? Yes. Its either it was so weakened that it didn't matter or he didn't get it back until he was revived. Either way, his PS was shown to be the same in his Edo State.

- I see. Though I wouldn't say he's a complete garbage of that version of himself though. O_O
he only became far superior after he sealed the Juubi...

- Not really, it was never stated or shown like that. Otherwise, Hago would have mentioned it.

- Which means that chakra does not matter. It only gave Kakashi the ability to use PS, because with his low chakra he would have never been able to do so, and it does not make his PS necessarily stronger.

JJ Madara has tons of Hago's chakra, and yet Minato was able to tank those 5 Jedu-damas of his without any problem with his body. Also, Minato and Naruto's chakra are linked together, so do you think Minato's chakra arms are as strong as Naruto's or Kaguya and thus he can destroy Kakashi's PS with his chakra arms just like Kaguya did to Sasuke?

JJ Obito has tons of Hago's chakra as well, did that stop the father-son Rassengan of completely destroying his chakra arms?

From all of those examples, Kakashi has the least amount of chakra from Hago, by FAR THE LEAST, yet I don't understand why he gets massively wanked to suck a ridiculous level.

 

[KidGamer65]

- I see. Though I wouldn't say he's a complete garbage of that version of himself though. O_O
he only became far superior after he sealed the Juubi...

He couldn't use the Rinnegan's full power and he said his best move was PS. Rinnegan Madara is FAR above Edo Madara.

- Not really, it was never stated or shown like that. Otherwise, Hago would have mentioned it.

What are you talking about here?

- Which means that chakra does not matter. It only gave Kakashi the ability to use PS, because with his low chakra he would have never been able to do so, and it does not make his PS necessarily stronger.

Wrong. It does matter as Sasuke's Susanoo got stronger when he got the chakra. Kakashi's Sharingan got stronger when he got the chakra. So it'd make his PS stronger than normal, in addition to giving him the ability to actually use it. Edo Madara's jutsu were the exact same.

JJ Madara has tons of Hago's chakra, and yet Minato was able to tank those 5 Jedu-damas of his without any problem with his body.

That isn't even relevant. PS cuts Mountains, with a boost from Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra, it'll go up, much more than any Senjutsu boost would increase his PS's strength. Mentioning Gudo Dama is irrelevant since they aren't as strong as PS to begin with.

Also, Minato and Naruto's chakra are linked together, so do you think Minato's chakra arms are as strong as Naruto's or Kaguya and thus he can destroy Kakashi's PS with his chakra arms just like Kaguya did to Sasuke?

At this point you aren't even making any sense.

Their chakras aren't linked together, they were only linked during that brief period that they teleported the alliance. Not to mention that BM Naruto, not Rikudo Senjutsu Naruto. Not to mention that two people getting a boost doesn't mean that all their attacks will be on a certain level. Lol.

JJ Obito has tons of Hago's chakra as well, did that stop the father-son Rassengan of completely destroying his chakra arms?

Read above. Obito and Kakashi getting a boost doesn't mean that all of Obito's attacks will be god level.

From all of those examples, Kakashi has the least amount of chakra from Hago, by FAR THE LEAST, yet I don't understand why he gets massively wanked to suck a ridiculous level.

PS+Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra=Massively stronger PS. Its really that simple. Madara's Gudo Dama not being as strong as PS and Obito's Chakra Arms not being as strong as PS doesn't mean anything as a boost doesn't work that way. It doesn't make all jutsu on par with each other.

 

[ARGUS]

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Man with rikudos power is superior to these 2

and so was Madara's PS.

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your point?

Lol completely irrlevant since the times when madara did use his PS was in his Edo state and in his EMS state,
both of the tiimes where he lacked the rikudos chakra therefore his PS was not amplified unlike Kakashis

says who? You?
Because Minato used his speed before even Gai could move..

He is not covering multiple mountain ranges to evade kakashis susanoo shockwaves

LMAO@ this post.
you're saying Minato will just stay there watching him without moving or doing anything?

returned to the BS again. Please, bring those AOE that Kakashi showed, I surely don't remember any. lol

stop with the nonsense please. What slashes are you talking about?
proofs, or just stop trolling. Lol

His susanoo slashes are what im talking about,

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kakashi can use PS slashes alot quicker than minato could form his TBB, therefore minato is getting intercepted,
minato is also not evading multiple mountain ranges so minato would have to resort to tanking the slashes
and the fact taht kakasihs PS is amplified by the rikudos power, means that his slashes would do heavy damage to the avatar,

and kakashi can use kamui shuriken as many times as he wants since they are just manifested from his chakra

the shurkings will teleport 4 of Buddha's arms at most, big deal. lol

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, this juubi structure is more durable than SS
and SS being vulnearble to this attacks of this nature as well as lacking the mobility to evade them means that it has to tank these shuriken
therefore allowing kakashi to eradicate the structure after a few shuriken

bring this AOE, is you're truthful...
LMOA@ this nonsense. Even the Juubi's AOE meant jacksh*t...
yeah, with the nonsensical fan-made feats , then yeah, sure. XD

Juubis AOE is still not more than multiple mountain ranges that madaras PS slash covered
Kakashis PS being amplified by rikudos chakra just means that his slashes are even stronger and have a higher AOE and DC
as minato is not prepping his TBB without getting intercepted, nor is he evading the slashes, therefore he gets overwhelmed

 

[Beans2]

They clear the helll out of this gauntlet

 

[Minato namikaze123]

Stop at kakashi...

 

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Except, Prime Madara and the Madara I'm talking about aren't the same thing.


Prime Madara=Vote Madara.

The Madara referenced in the bold is an alive version of Edo Madara. Basically Madara w/ both Rinnegan, and Hashirama's DNA and Hagoromo's chakra.




In his Edo State? Yes. Its either it was so weakened that it didn't matter or he didn't get it back until he was revived. Either way, his PS was shown to be the same in his Edo State.

He Edo PS was Stronger see the shoke wave reflex. See Episode 375 he uses susanoo with mokuton for edo hashiram clones

Madara with Kyuubi woud not able to beat Edo Hashirama easily but Edo Madara can beat Edo Hashrama without much effort

Edo Madara>>Madara with Kyuubi

 

[Demonic.]

He Edo PS was Stronger see the shoke wave reflex. See Episode 375 he uses susanoo with mokuton for edo hashiram clones

Madara with Kyuubi woud not able to beat Edo Hashirama easily but Edo Madara can beat Edo Hashrama without much effort

Edo Madara>>Madara with Kyuubi

Edo Hashirama already beat Edo Madara