BM Minato and Mu vs DMS Kakashi

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=KidGamer65;17625910]Kurama Avatar enhanced by Rikudo Senjutsu>>>>Senjutsu Enhanced Kurama Avatar>>Kurama Avatar.
That's cool and all, except Naruto was not using his SM obviously since he was waiting for the clone to obtain the SM chakra. lol

Obito having more chakra is irrelevant.
Sorry, but that's foolish. Because obviously having more chakra makes the thing stronger. Madara had Hago's chakra, and yet he couldn't do a thing to Hashirama's Golem. And I pointed that out to you several times.
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That's offensive power, not defensive power, nor would this even be a valid argument if I was referring to offense.
Don't see what is that suppose to prove exactly. The chakra arms had much more powerful and more chakra than what Kakashi had, and yet they gor destroyed completely with a normal Rassengan. In addition, Minato used Kurama's tail and hand to deal with them as well. However, based on your logic, those arms would have destroyed them completely just because "they have the Sage's chakra"

Not gonna happen.
The amount of evidence in this is overwhelming.

He can't as in Kakashi isn't going to let him.
Lol, sorry but if that's the evidence you can give, let's just stop here. We can go in this direction forever without going anywhere. I could say Minato won't let Kakashi do anything and he will cut his head of right away, or Mu will have Minato teleporting him which he's invisible, and 1-shot Kakashi...etc

PS is already Mountain Level. Senjutsu greatly increases the power of techniques and Rikudo Senjutsu does even more. A Mountain Range leveled attack took 6 tails from Naruto's Avatar, Rikudo Senjutsu PS>>Mountain Range Leveled, so PS cuts Minato apart.
No it's not. Kakashi and Sasuke's PS are only the size of half of Kurama's real size, and we saw this directly. You might want to reread Naruto Vs Sasuke again.

- You proved nothing my dear. We saw Sasuke's PS against Kurama that was inside of Minato directly, and it did not even damage 1 tail. And I already told you that Naruto was not using his SM, as he was waiting to do so from the clone, when Sasuke used all the Bijuus. So, again, you're using fan-fiction and pure speculation, when we saw the exact opposite.

If anything, PS=Regular Kurama Avatar, meaning Rikudo Senjutsu PS shits on it.

Well, sadly it did not shit on it, and couldn't harm a single tail. As a matter of fact, even after taking all of the Bijuus chakra, Sasuke's PS couldn't even destroy the clone that was using the Avatar. Lol

Because he chose to leave.
No, it was stated since the start that's for a short time. If it were up to him, Kishi wouldn't have said that. What happened
with obito is exactly the same thing that happened to Minato, Kushina, and Dan.

Susanoo still evades, and even if Kakashi gets hit, he phases right through it.

Kakashi can't use his PS with the Kamui obviously, otherwise Kaguya's attack wouldn't have destroyed it, but rather went through it.
 

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Ababeel sit down... Naruto Kurama avatar was boosted by his own SM plus the Sage SM while Sasuke only had the sage SM. Minato has no SM to boost his BM avatar in cannon and even if he did multiple Juubi sized Kamui warps for... Not sure why this is even being debated honestly. Minato powers levels were nothing to Juubito while Kakashi power-up could have easily wrecked Kaguya's Juubi cat...

Yeah, because that makes perfect sense. XD



He was already using it, but he just felt like saying "Come on Kurama" even though it was completely not needed. lol

actually Minato has SM, and can summon the frogs as well. Which so happen that they do have sound jutsus which makes the Susanoo useless.

Kakashi power-up could have easily wrecked Kaguya's Juubi cat...

Sakura also destroyed Kaguya's horn, when Sasuke's PS couldn't.
You agree that Sakura >>>>>>>> Sasuke's PS?
and she is one of the strongest? XD

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Or perhaps Sakura had the Sage's chakra as well?
 
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Kakashi spams Kamui Shuriken that create space-time warps as big as a Perfect Susanoo. That way he warps Muu and near all of Minato's tagged kunai. Then he fodderizes Minato with Kamui Raikiri or anything else.
 

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That's cool and all, except Naruto was not using his SM obviously since he was waiting for the clone to obtain the SM chakra. lol

That was so he could power up, obviously. Naruto is ALWAYS in Rikudo Senjutsu Mode, hence him still having his Gudo Dama and his cloak.


Sorry, but that's foolish. Because obviously having more chakra makes the thing stronger. Madara had Hago's chakra, and yet he couldn't do a thing to Hashirama's Golem. And I pointed that out to you several times.
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Uh, Obito isn't even apart of this match, so no, his chakra amount isn't relevant.

Um? Ok? Rikudo's Senjutsu Chakra was STATED to enhance Kakashi's Dojutsu, so I'm not going to debate on whether PS got a boost when manga pretty much already states it.


Don't see what is that suppose to prove exactly. The chakra arms had much more powerful and more chakra than what Kakashi had, and yet they gor destroyed completely with a normal Rassengan.

Which proves nothing as regular Perfect Susanoo have tanked stronger attacks. (Bijuu Dama) Nor does the chakra arms being destroyed translate into Rasengan being able to do more damage than them, it means that they weren't durable enough to withstand them. That simple.


In addition, Minato used Kurama's tail and hand to deal with them as well. However, based on your logic, those arms would have destroyed them completely just because "they have the Sage's chakra"

Lol, this is why I can't deal with retards. I said Minato gets raped because he's fighting a PS enhanced by Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra. Not that any attack with Rikudo's Chakra>Any attack w/o it. Pretty sure I already pointed this out to you once before. Stop with the shit analogies.



Lol, sorry but if that's the evidence you can give, let's just stop here. We can go in this direction forever without going anywhere. I could say Minato won't let Kakashi do anything and he will cut his head of right away, or Mu will have Minato teleporting him which he's invisible, and 1-shot Kakashi...etc
I've already told you how he doesn't warp Susanoo away. Don't know why you keep replying to other parts of my post crying about how I have no argument.

No it's not. Kakashi and Sasuke's PS are only the size of half of Kurama's real size, and we saw this directly. You might want to reread Naruto Vs Sasuke again.
Size=/=Strength, so that isn't even relevant. Not to mention Naruto's Kurama Avatar is near Mountain Sized, so its larger than it was before.

- You proved nothing my dear. We saw Sasuke's PS against Kurama that was inside of Minato directly, and it did not even damage 1 tail. And I already told you that Naruto was not using his SM, as he was waiting to do so from the clone, when Sasuke used all the Bijuus. So, again, you're using fan-fiction and pure speculation, when we saw the exact opposite.
We saw Sasuke's PS against a Kurama Avatar being enhanced by Naruto's Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra, why you are trying to compare to BM Minato's Kurama Avatar is beyond me, but like the rest of your post, its nothing but a disgusting joke.

-Has Sage eyes.


-Still in his Rikudo Senjutsu Mode.


-Still has the Gudo Dama.


This guy says that he wasn't using Senjutsu. Lol. Log out buddy. Log out. He only needed extra Nature Energy to power up and match Sasuke, who got the Bijuu's power.

Well, sadly it did not shit on it, and couldn't harm a single tail. As a matter of fact, even after taking all of the Bijuus chakra, Sasuke's PS couldn't even destroy the clone that was using the Avatar. Lol
Except it never fought the regular Kurama Avatar.


No, it was stated since the start that's for a short time. If it were up to him, Kishi wouldn't have said that. What happened
with obito is exactly the same thing that happened to Minato, Kushina, and Dan.
Fine. I'll give you that. What he did against Kaguya is enough for him to clown these two anyway.

Kakashi can't use his PS with the Kamui obviously, otherwise Kaguya's attack wouldn't have destroyed it, but rather went through it.

Never said that PS turns intangible, I said that Kakashi phases through it.
 

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Yeah, because that makes perfect sense. XD



He was already using it, but he just felt like saying "Come on Kurama" even though it was completely not needed. lol

actually Minato has SM, and can summon the frogs as well. Which so happen that they do have sound jutsus which makes the Susanoo useless.



Sakura also destroyed Kaguya's horn, when Sasuke's PS couldn't.
You agree that Sakura >>>>>>>> Sasuke's PS?
and she is one of the strongest? XD

Sakura


Sasuke



Or perhaps Sakura had the Sage's chakra as well?
Literally nothing in this post makes sense...
 

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Kakashi has the rikudo chakra, he comfortably wins this
 

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Those who say Minato wins have no clue how powerful people with rikudo chakra are. Minato would get fodderized instantly
 

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=KidGamer65;17627010]That was so he could power up, obviously. Naruto is ALWAYS in Rikudo Senjutsu Mode, hence him still having his Gudo Dama and his cloak.
lol, no. Obito was able to use his stuff even after he lost his Juubi's form. Those Gedu-damas exist by themselves as Minato pointed out, it has nothing to do with Naruto.

Uh, Obito isn't even apart of this match, so no, his chakra amount isn't relevant.

Um? Ok? Rikudo's Senjutsu Chakra was STATED to enhance Kakashi's Dojutsu, so I'm not going to debate on whether PS got a boost when manga pretty much already states it.

How is his chakra irrelevant when it's what Kakashi is using here?

- Yes, his eyes became more powerful, but how much more powerful? Naruto's chakra made the SA more powerful as well.
and he made Kakashi's eyes more powerful before, but that was not enough. You are saying that his jutsus got a boost, then you ignore that the same thing happened to obito, and yet his attack was still destroyed? :heh:
Which proves nothing as regular Perfect Susanoo have tanked stronger attacks. (Bijuu Dama) Nor does the chakra arms being destroyed translate into Rasengan being able to do more damage than them, it means that they weren't durable enough to withstand them. That simple.
Lol
Naruto made 9 Rassengans and gave them to his friends. Those Rassengans were able to destroy Hagoromo's shield that
Obito made out of his Gedu-damas. Why were they effected even though they had the Sage's chakra when those Rassengan hadn't?

Having the Sage's chakra does make you stronger, but by no means make every freaking thing you use Invincible. Heck, even Sakura damaged Kaguya who's more powerful than the sage himself. lol
Especially with Kakashi's PS who has no feats at all with durability to begin with. All what you're arguing is only assumption on your part with no evidence whatsoever.

Lol, this is why I can't deal with retards. I said Minato gets raped because he's fighting a PS enhanced by Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra. Not that any attack with Rikudo's Chakra>Any attack w/o it. Pretty sure I already pointed this out to you once before. Stop with the shit analogies.

oh, the Irony. Lol
and you still failed to provide anything. Sorry dude, but fan-fiction has never been proof of anything. You might want to start and actually show us Kakashi's feats and his strong attacks, will ya?
I've already told you how he doesn't warp Susanoo away. Don't know why you keep replying to other parts of my post crying about how I have no argument.
And I have already told you fan-fiction is not proof. Put some links or scan that shows the Susanoo won't be warped away, or just stop. We don't have all eternity. :|
Size=/=Strength, so that isn't even relevant. Not to mention Naruto's Kurama Avatar is near Mountain Sized, so its larger than it was before.
Funny you said that, when you're the one who brought the whole size thing. And I don't know from where you came up with that fan-fiction either. Kurama is exactly the same, and you can reread the chapters, and see his size compare to the other Bijuus, they are at the same size. Heck, even when he was shown behind Naruto in the latest chapters, there was no change whatsoever.

We saw Sasuke's PS against a Kurama Avatar being enhanced by Naruto's Rikudo Senjutsu Chakra, why you are trying to compare to BM Minato's Kurama Avatar is beyond me, but like the rest of your post, its nothing but a disgusting joke.
The Kurama inside of Naruto is the one who was inside of Minato. Also, the chakra was giving to Naruto himself, not Kurama.

-Has Sage eyes.


-Still in his Rikudo Senjutsu Mode.


-Still has the Gudo Dama.


This guy says that he wasn't using Senjutsu. Lol. Log out buddy. Log out. He only needed extra Nature Energy to power up and match Sasuke, who got the Bijuu's power.
Yeah, I must go with your fan-fiction that you're using in entire post, and ignore what Naruto said in the manga. lol
you can create you're own manga and put all what you want in it, no one would argue with you then. But sadly, out side of your fantasy world, Naruto only got that after Kurama sent it to him. Actually even Naruto's chakra was much weaker from the War as Kurama pointed out.

and the seal on their arms returned to Hago's as well.

here they lost the seals

and here they returned to Hago

and that was the only thing he gave them.




Fine. I'll give you that. What he did against Kaguya is enough for him to clown these two anyway.
What Kakashi did against Kaguya, is barely better than was Sakura did. And I'm sure she wouldn't stand a chance here.


anyway, I'm done. It pointless to go on endless debate. I guess we will agree to disagree. XD
 

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why are people even replying to this idoit ^ when a hole threads agrees someone not only wins but stomps and we got that 1 fabboy trying to dispute things why waste ya phucking time
 

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Don't waste your time with that butthurt man, LoL.

Kamui Raikiri GG

(with Kamui phasing hax and Rikudo enhanced speed, blitzed a stronger Kaguya than the one who dodged with ease Rinnegan Sasuke's S/T + Chidori; this with Black Zetsu that couldn't follow what happened)

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Kamui GG

(uncounterable time-space warp that outspeeded and outperformed even Kaguya's S/T, the one that nearly blitzed Rikudo Senjutsu Naruto and blitzed Rinnegan Sasuke)

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Kamui Shuriken GG

(can be spammed and spammed, everyone of them creates and closes a Kamui space-time hole as big as a Perfect Susanoo)

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DMS Kakashi is too much U_U
 

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Okay, what if Tobirama, EMS Sasuke, and MS Obito are added to the team?
 

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Okay, what if Tobirama, EMS Sasuke, and MS Obito are added to the team?

Adding fodders like EMS Sasuke isn't going to do anything. Dual Kamui Kakashi pretty much soloed Kaguya U_U It needs Dual Rinnegan Juubi Jin Madara to stop him U_U
 

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Kakashi can fight on the level of Sasuke w/o bijuu who would thrash forms of juubidara who are superior to juubito who in turn is on another level than BM Minato.

Kakashi stomps.
 

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This thread isn't solo'ed yet, cuz Mu solos

he goes invisible and butt**** kakashi with his invisible D
 
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