[Discussion] Bleach would be A LOT better if

[EZQ]

If there wasn't so many character. OMG. I think that it has 5 times the usual. For example, i think that if we take each character from Naruto, we'd get 5 from bleach, or even more.

For example, on the hueco mundo arc, we were introduced to the old espada and the new espada. Now, we have like 30 different stern rittern. On the battle against Aizen we got 5 fractions per espada. On the first arc we got all the captains and vice captains. Then the full bring saga please. Also Hirako and the hollowizards lmao, there are too many!

This major mistakes leads to an unavoidable end: Almost no character development.

Characters that didn't have character develpoment despite being very important to the plot:

-All the espada except Ulquiorra and Grimmjow
-Ukitake, Hinamori, Hitsugaya, Hitsugaya's assistant, Uryuu's dad, Ikkaku and the other one
-Most of the arrancar and hollows
-Unohana

There are so many characters, soo many, that should be important to the plot and we know nothing about them. For example this guy that was shown this chapter, the one who called himself a dead man, i mean, hell, i haven't seen anything related to him in like 100 o 200 chapters?

Kubo just kills main characters and just doesn't give a damn because they're not important, for real. The screentime is so spread that no one gets time.

Am i the only one who has noticed this?

I mean, YAMAMOTO the ****ing leader of the gotei 13, and we barely get 2 or 3 flashbacks and bam! dead.

 

[Ripple Hole]

More boobs.

 

[Gerkak]

It would be better if the villains weren't given OP abilities only for them to get beaten by convenient powers and circumstances.

Kubo should just not make the villains too OP. Yhwach is going to be defeated in a silly way I'm sure

 

[Woodzy]

I think the problem for me is that all these new characters aren't as likeable, therefore they're more easier to forget about. With this arc, Kubo just shoved new characters at our faces left and right in the beginning. I can't be the only one in the audience who got lost and lost track of their names.

 

[iBrezeeh]

I think the problem for me is that all these new characters aren't as likeable, therefore they're more easier to forget about. With this arc, Kubo just shoved new characters at our faces left and right in the beginning. I can't be the only one in the audience who got lost and lost track of their names.

Agreed

 

[Hashirama Senjuu]

I love bleach and have no problem remembering anyone and their abilities.

 

[EZQ]

I think the problem for me is that all these new characters aren't as likeable, therefore they're more easier to forget about. With this arc, Kubo just shoved new characters at our faces left and right in the beginning. I can't be the only one in the audience who got lost and lost track of their names.

Totally agreed.

OT: I forgot to add the little zero division incident.

 

[Umari Senju]

It would be better if the villains weren't given OP abilities only for them to get beaten by convenient powers and circumstances.

Kubo should just not make the villains too OP. Yhwach is going to be defeated in a silly way I'm sure

I agree with you.

Just like how Uliquorra was defeated by a one time transformation from ichigo
Just like Aizen was beat by a one time transformation.
I expect the same for Ywalch

I think the problem for me is that all these new characters aren't as likeable, therefore they're more easier to forget about. With this arc, Kubo just shoved new characters at our faces left and right in the beginning. I can't be the only one in the audience who got lost and lost track of their names.

So true. At least with the espada they were introduce in small groups at a time. We didn't meet 26 espada in like 3 chapters

 

[Woodzy]

Totally agreed.

OT: I forgot to add the little zero division incident.

I guess Kubo wanted to give the impression that the Wandenreich is this "huge" empire that had managed to successfully invade the SS and even obliterated it at ease. He added all these minor characters in order to build the foundation for what makes an empire only to be then killed off in within five chapters later. I know I'm exaggerating, but you get the point.

Funny how Yamamoto was killed off, and yet Kubo decided to bring Kira back on the chessboard as a bird negging cyborg. Nothing against Kira fans. I suppose it's inevitable that the protagonist's side has to face a heavy casualty in war times such as this, especially in balancing the odds out. It'd be entirely boring if the "good guys" were winning all the time. Yamamoto's death did leave an impression that the Wandenreich and Yhwach is something that shouldn't be joked on about.

 

[Itachi Edo]

I agree with that. His cast is way too large. Really ambitious story idea and shitty execution.

 

[ToshiZO]

You have a point but its also just shitty execution. One Piece has a huge cast as well and it manages the characters just fine.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Nah bleach is fine the way it is, don't worry about the haters.

 

[Sakura Bunny]

Kenpachi was shirtless and sweaty with his hair down in every panel. Awww yeeees <3

 

[Relostar Devil]

If there wasn't so many character. OMG. I think that it has 5 times the usual. For example, i think that if we take each character from Naruto, we'd get 5 from bleach, or even more.

For example, on the hueco mundo arc, we were introduced to the old espada and the new espada. Now, we have like 30 different stern rittern. On the battle against Aizen we got 5 fractions per espada. On the first arc we got all the captains and vice captains. Then the full bring saga please. Also Hirako and the hollowizards lmao, there are too many!

This major mistakes leads to an unavoidable end: Almost no character development.

Characters that didn't have character develpoment despite being very important to the plot:

-All the espada except Ulquiorra and Grimmjow
-Ukitake, Hinamori, Hitsugaya, Hitsugaya's assistant, Uryuu's dad, Ikkaku and the other one
-Most of the arrancar and hollows
-Unohana

There are so many characters, soo many, that should be important to the plot and we know nothing about them. For example this guy that was shown this chapter, the one who called himself a dead man, i mean, hell, i haven't seen anything related to him in like 100 o 200 chapters?

Kubo just kills main characters and just doesn't give a damn because they're not important, for real. The screentime is so spread that no one gets time.

Am i the only one who has noticed this?

I mean, YAMAMOTO the ****ing leader of the gotei 13, and we barely get 2 or 3 flashbacks and bam! dead.

Many characters is the plus point of this anime where all the characters introduced gets equal screen time.
Only thing which make it worse is:
Extremely slow pace
Having same bullshit fighting pattern
Senseless big names of attacks and modes
Hype of stupid bankais of hotshots

 

[Theunrestricted]

Yeah I don't really mind all the characters Kubo has just wish he would of focused more on Ichigos human group. Then we wouldn't be thinking asspull for Chad to be anywhere near Ichigos strength as of now! Orihime is self explanatory her abilities are op in healing and defense but she has no real variety in techniques nor combat experience to see her seriously still traveling along with Ichigo at this point. Uryu is good as he is. Then theirs the big disappointment that have spiritual power potential but was never really dweled into being first in for most Tatsuki. When it was hinted had some form of spiritual awareness but it never went anywhere.

 

[Theunrestricted]

Yeah I don't really mind all the characters Kubo has just wish he would of focused more on Ichigos human group. Then we wouldn't be thinking asspull for Chad to be anywhere near Ichigos strength as of now! Orihime is self explanatory her abilities are op in healing and defense but she has no real variety in techniques nor combat experience to see her seriously still traveling along with Ichigo at this point. Uryu is good as he is. Then theirs the big disappointment that have spiritual power potential but was never really dweled into being first in for most Tatsuki. When it was hinted she had some form of spiritual awareness but it never went anywhere.

 

[Woodzy]

Then theirs the big disappointment that have spiritual power potential but was never really dweled into being first in for most Tatsuki. When it was hinted she had some form of spiritual awareness but it never went anywhere.

They'll just stay as minor characters at this point. Tatsuki does have potential, but it's going to be hard for Kubo to somehow incorporate this into the story right now. The only time where I think it might've been possible was when Shinsui went down into the human world to let Ichigo's friends know about what's going on as of right now and handed out these Soul Tickets to her and the others. Even though, the main purpose of those Soul Tickets is to visit Ichigo in the SS should he be forced to stay there as his growing powers now pose as a threat to their world by his mere presence, the chances of this happening is very slim however.

Makes me wonder if Kubo is possibly foreshadowing Ichigo's fate as becoming the new SK ridiculous enough as it sounds at the end of this war. He's an excellent candidate seeing as how he's basically a diverse of all the four races in Bleach. I doubt Ichigo would be forced into it. Aizen on the other hand, if Kubo plays his cards really well, there would be enough reason for him to take on the role despite the disagreement of others.

And then, we have Yhwach. Kubo introduced the Shinken Hakkyōken as a Zanpakuto that splits the power of a "god" that it's facing and disperses it into eight different directions. This sword most likely has a connection to the SK and how "it" ended up being nothing more than a limbless linchpin as we saw from before. Kubo saw Lille as the perfect opportunity to introduce such a weapon and clearly, this weapon will make an appearance again and be put to use in the later future chapters. I can see it being used on a being such as Yhwach who most likely had achieved a transcendent state by absorbing the SK and he too, is a candidate to becoming the next SK (a mindless one knowing the previous situation of the SK). They are father and son after all. Way off topic, sorry not sorry.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Alot of those ppl had charcter development

Unohana, 1st espada, 2nd espada. etc.. too tired to name all of them but alot of ppl hagve got scream time

 

[EZQ]

Alot of those ppl had charcter development

Unohana

Rofl, so let me get this straight, the real kenpachi of the gotei 13, the woman responsable of Zaraki Kenpachi's power, gets one chapter of her past, and that's character development? She didn't even get a 1vs1 fight against an enemy. Please read the manga again.

, 1st espada, 2nd espada. etc..

Screen time=/= character development. And as of starrk, we never got to see the full extent of his abilities or even why was he put as nr 1 when by feats he shouldn't be that high.

too tired to name all of them but alot of ppl hagve got scream time

So if you're used to read a poor manga where that is called "screen time" then you should like any manga you read, lol