Bleach won't end here! =_=

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Right I remember an interview with Kubo... during which he stated that there will be 2 more arcs! Now... some of you may be happy about this... I on the other hand am hoping he gets cancelled so I can stop being disappointed every week!

What he has said is that there will be an arc concerning a discovery from No.8's lab... the next one I can't remember...

TBH After he just threw aside the Espada and Aizen... I can no longer trust him as an author!... Bleach has become the manga I love to hate! =_=
 
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I never liked bleach anyways. Too serious and sometimes too bloody. I used to really like it in first episodes but then it gets really boring. Specially cause of many fillers and too long stories. I got to episode 280 though and I just stopped following it some time ago. Anime like this won't end so fast, even if there are just 2 more story lines.
 

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Starting out, I loved Bleach more than Naruto. But then...Shippuuden got deeper and darker and better....and Bleach went the opposite way. >.>

I have lost interest so badly. I got up to the fillers where the zanpaktou take human form and just stopped. My friend told me about a "spoiler", but it really wasn't any suprise. Bleach is so incredibly predictable and dull.

Not to mention I love how in Shippuuden, things are somewhat realistic. AKA naruto doesn't fight for hours, nearly get killed, get incredible power, defeat the enemy, be suddenly completely healed, then move on to the next fight and repeat the process over and over and over. >.< madara actually had to bail sasuke's ass out of there when kakashi showed up with naruto and sakura or else he would have been killed.

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yeah same here hope it ends....bleach became so childlike...it pales in comparison to narutos character development and is trash compared to one pieces story...all it had going for it was its fights which eventually got uber retarded
 

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Starting out, I loved Bleach more than Naruto. But then...Shippuuden got deeper and darker and better....and Bleach went the opposite way. >.>

I have lost interest so badly. I got up to the fillers where the zanpaktou take human form and just stopped. My friend told me about a "spoiler", but it really wasn't any suprise. Bleach is so incredibly predictable and dull.

Not to mention I love how in Shippuuden, things are somewhat realistic. AKA naruto doesn't fight for hours, nearly get killed, get incredible power, defeat the enemy, be suddenly completely healed, then move on to the next fight and repeat the process over and over and over. >.< madara actually had to bail sasuke's ass out of there when kakashi showed up with naruto and sakura or else he would have been killed.

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You're so right... I liked Bleach at first... really good storyline but I got a point to all I read about was fights... I got bored after like 3 chapter of just fighting U_U
 

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Well I just tihnk you're too obsessed with this... I mean I'm reading the manga from start to end and i already felt how Tite Kubo is failing slowly but what do you expect mate at some point you run out of ideas + most of bleach filling arcs are made from him as well [im talking about the fillers in the anime episodes] so yeah at some point you do run out of ideas but instead of receiving aid from the manga readers what does he get ? YOU and your critism ... just relax it's just a manga today you like it tomorrow not if u hate the manga so much and the way it's going just don't ever interfere with Bleach Saga... I have nothing more to say to you
 

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wow...
That would be pointless, because it means that Ichigo has to get stronger, better as from this state that he has right now "final getsuga tensou" and how could you get stronger then this? I mean, the story allready reached it's climax, as we saw Ichigo in his Final Getsuga Tensou. Is there like a "Final Final Final Getsuga Tensou"? Kudo better stop ****ing up this manga even more.
 

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Well I just tihnk you're too obsessed with this... I mean I'm reading the manga from start to end and i already felt how Tite Kubo is failing slowly but what do you expect mate at some point you run out of ideas + most of bleach filling arcs are made from him as well [im talking about the fillers in the anime episodes] so yeah at some point you do run out of ideas but instead of receiving aid from the manga readers what does he get ? YOU and your critism ... just relax it's just a manga today you like it tomorrow not if u hate the manga so much and the way it's going just don't ever interfere with Bleach Saga... I have nothing more to say to you
[RANT]I love people like you!

Sorry... aid from the manga readers? Oh but if course... I have Kubo's number right here... I'll give him a ring and let him know where he is going wrong...

And YES we will criticize his work as is our right as the audience to do so! Especially after over 8 years of following his stories... (me myself since zombie powder)...

Unfortunately (for you).. the world is not full of sugar and rainbows... As much as people will have good things to say... there will ALWAYS be those with negative things to say... whether with good foundation or not... and it is not your place to silence then!

A true fan is one who can admit when things are going bad...

It is clear Kubo has either become complacent with his success... or he just doesn't really care about the series anymore... His chapters on average make up less than 2 mins of an anime episode... Hence the heavy load of fillers the anime produces mid arc!

If Kubo wants continued support... then he should provide US with quality works...

And manga is never just a manga to me as it is a field I am involved in! I WILL break it down for it's flaws... and I will praise it for it's qualities... [/RANT]

Thank you, good night, much love!
 
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Part of being a fan of an author's work includes critiquing the work. Bleach started out beautifully, it was wonderful. But in all honesty, it's NOT living up to its expectations.

Now I understand that yes, at some point you run out of ideas and there's not much you can do. But! It's also a sign of an exceptional and in-touch author to know when and where to draw the line to prevent such a great story from becoming just another book of jumbled pictures and words. And tite kubo has simply lost that touch with Bleach. Now it may be because his focus is somewhere else right now, he may be focusing on another story, or maybe the brilliant ideas he had for bleach simply are not possible anymore.

Either way, I really would like to see Bleach end to keep it from becoming another mess after getting such hype. Let's face it, Kubo didn't deliver the knock-out finishing blow everyone expected from him. It doesn't mean he's a bad author, he just faltered and it's time for him to recognize he made some mistakes and this way he can prevent a total disaster.

It's not that we're not fans of his work, we just expected more from such a brilliant man. As a fellow fan, you should be able to understand that and understand why we are so disappointed. Besides, maybe you and I like different aspects about Bleach. That doesn't mean any of us are better fans than the other. Its jut our opinions and that's that.
 

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[RANT]I love people like you!

Sorry... aid from the manga readers? Oh but if course... I have Kubo's number right here... I'll give him a ring and let him know where he is going wrong...

And YES we will criticize his work as is our right as the audience to do so! Especially after over 8 years of following his stories... (me myself since zombie powder)...

Unfortunately (for you).. the world is not full of sugar and rainbows... As much as people will have good things to say... there will ALWAYS be those with negative things to say... whether with good foundation or not... and it is not your place to silence then!

A true fan is one who can admit when things are going bad...

It is clear Kubo has either become complacent with his success... or he just doesn't really care about the series anymore... His chapters on average make up less than 2 mins of an anime episode... Hence the heavy load of fillers the anime produces mid arc!

If Kubo wants continued support... then he should provide US with quality works...

And manga is never just a manga to me as it is a field I am involved in! I WILL break it down for it's flaws... and I will praise it for it's qualities... [/RANT]

Thank you, good night, much love!

It was only normal that at some point he would be left out of ideas . But you didn't really get me now did you ? By support I don't reaaallly mean to never ever criticize him but people like you are like "This manga started to downgrade so I am not going to follow it or at least it should end because It now sucks and has no point in continueing" Wait dude you are NOT THE ONLY READER OF THIS MANGA your opinion is one of the many. It's absolutely okey to criticize him but in the end just say something like "i hope he gets it better next time" Because mate if i were Tite Kubo i would definetely check my fans opinions and stuff and would really give up on the manga if i saw more and more ppl like you that say its shit it should stop before it becomes even bigger shit. I think we should let him have his winning momment with the next 5-6 chapters and then comment weather the manga is falling apart or just rising in the sunset.

Also, what's wrong with the power boosts and things? Why do you keep braging on for that ? It is a part of the genre of the manga after all... It is what it makes us readers keep on following the manga. I mean if we are logically thinking we can pretty easily understand why these forms exist let me just give you and example.

Ichigo vs Ulquiorra, ichigo gets beaten to death and he stands up in a Vasto Lorde mode and kick his ass. I remember that on another forum many many MANY people started hating on that because of the next mega-jedai-power-boost... but it's nothng unexplainable really... Ichigo has a hollow inside that hollow evolves and gets stronger same as ichigo...that's all there is to it.

For the FGT mega power boost well after all in order to become that strong you have to accept the fact you are losing every bit ass of power so i find it not that strange really.

Now the thing i must fully agree with you is that the manga is slowing down both the anime and storyline but i told you im sure Tite is running out of ideas and hopefully this is thought over and has a purpose for this delay because as you said now 1 chapter of manga really is like 2-4 mins of anime episode time.


But I really think that you're taking manga too seriously but that of course is something that is part of your decision so I'm not in my place to tell you anything regarding that matter now am I ? But it's just my opinion as i said in my previous post im also reading manga a lot and especially bleach one from start to end and yeah i accept the failliures i comment on them but i always keep hope alive that it will all go better at some point... ;]


Regards, MG.
 

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It was only normal that at some point he would be left out of ideas . But you didn't really get me now did you ? By support I don't reaaallly mean to never ever criticize him but people like you are like "This manga started to downgrade so I am not going to follow it or at least it should end because It now sucks and has no point in continueing" Wait dude you are NOT THE ONLY READER OF THIS MANGA your opinion is one of the many. It's absolutely okey to criticize him but in the end just say something like "i hope he gets it better next time" Because mate if i were Tite Kubo i would definetely check my fans opinions and stuff and would really give up on the manga if i saw more and more ppl like you that say its shit it should stop before it becomes even bigger shit. I think we should let him have his winning momment with the next 5-6 chapters and then comment weather the manga is falling apart or just rising in the sunset.

Also, what's wrong with the power boosts and things? Why do you keep braging on for that ? It is a part of the genre of the manga after all... It is what it makes us readers keep on following the manga. I mean if we are logically thinking we can pretty easily understand why these forms exist let me just give you and example.

Ichigo vs Ulquiorra, ichigo gets beaten to death and he stands up in a Vasto Lorde mode and kick his ass. I remember that on another forum many many MANY people started hating on that because of the next mega-jedai-power-boost... but it's nothng unexplainable really... Ichigo has a hollow inside that hollow evolves and gets stronger same as ichigo...that's all there is to it.

For the FGT mega power boost well after all in order to become that strong you have to accept the fact you are losing every bit ass of power so i find it not that strange really.

Now the thing i must fully agree with you is that the manga is slowing down both the anime and storyline but i told you im sure Tite is running out of ideas and hopefully this is thought over and has a purpose for this delay because as you said now 1 chapter of manga really is like 2-4 mins of anime episode time.


But I really think that you're taking manga too seriously but that of course is something that is part of your decision so I'm not in my place to tell you anything regarding that matter now am I ? But it's just my opinion as i said in my previous post im also reading manga a lot and especially bleach one from start to end and yeah i accept the failliures i comment on them but i always keep hope alive that it will all go better at some point... ;]


Regards, MG.
I thought you had nothing more to say?

Well again you're just telling us of negative opinion, exactly how to formulate our opinions... I'm not stopping you from praising Bleach... I will argue the point and my opinion but I will not tell you to stop praising it until any time frame given! So stop telling us not to complain about it...

I also don't need it to be explained to me thanks... I am fully aware that Kubo is running out of ideas... This is even more reason as to why it should end!

Now... everything in this universe... EVERYTHING has a lifespan... Lifeforms, buildings, stories, civilizations, celestial bodies.... EVERYTHING... If he has exhausted his ideas then all his manga is doing is clinging to a life that should have ended... When things get stretched beyond their natural lifespan.... they become a shadow of their former glory and linger on in a half quality existence...

I will also point out that the editorial department would not be pleased if Kubo was wasting such ideas as the bounto arc or the rouge zanpaktou arc on filler anime, when it could be used in the manga... So I doubt he spends much time on fillers if any at all...

Now for the second time... I take manga seriously as it is my field... To put it in a more simple way... I am a mangaka and studying other manga is integral to what I do... So yes... as it is a career choice for me... I WILL take it seriously... as would any other serious, aspiring, mangaka...

That is really all I will say on the matter... as trying to get the last word ends up in the involved parties repeating themselves... and I am loathed to do so!


Part of being a fan of an author's work includes critiquing the work. Bleach started out beautifully, it was wonderful. But in all honesty, it's NOT living up to its expectations.

Now I understand that yes, at some point you run out of ideas and there's not much you can do. But! It's also a sign of an exceptional and in-touch author to know when and where to draw the line to prevent such a great story from becoming just another book of jumbled pictures and words. And tite kubo has simply lost that touch with Bleach. Now it may be because his focus is somewhere else right now, he may be focusing on another story, or maybe the brilliant ideas he had for bleach simply are not possible anymore.

Either way, I really would like to see Bleach end to keep it from becoming another mess after getting such hype. Let's face it, Kubo didn't deliver the knock-out finishing blow everyone expected from him. It doesn't mean he's a bad author, he just faltered and it's time for him to recognize he made some mistakes and this way he can prevent a total disaster.

It's not that we're not fans of his work, we just expected more from such a brilliant man. As a fellow fan, you should be able to understand that and understand why we are so disappointed. Besides, maybe you and I like different aspects about Bleach. That doesn't mean any of us are better fans than the other. Its jut our opinions and that's that.

I completely agree... well put!!
 
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Okay i have no problem with you being an Otaku the thing with bleach is like this quote :

"It's not one bit important how hard you fell but if you can stand up and live to the expectations after this hard fall"

If he can't pull his ideas together and reborn what we know as Bleach then yes your opinion "It should end" will be completely right but for now i'm not loosing hope... And it's not about praising not really it's just about hoping ;].

And Rika, you're right! I will end the discussion with Casual righ here since i cannot really argue or even create a simple coversation with him as it's obvious what i like aobut bleach and support is not what he follows the chapters for.

~MG ;]
 

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more arcs? from whats happening in the manga, it looks like it will be over soon. ill be satisfied if it ends right there but if it continues i probably won't care enough to see it.
 

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Okay i have no problem with you being an Otaku the thing with bleach is like this quote :

"It's not one bit important how hard you fell but if you can stand up and live to the expectations after this hard fall"

If he can't pull his ideas together and reborn what we know as Bleach then yes your opinion "It should end" will be completely right but for now i'm not loosing hope... And it's not about praising not really it's just about hoping ;].

And Rika, you're right! I will end the discussion with Casual righ here since i cannot really argue or even create a simple coversation with him as it's obvious what i like aobut bleach and support is not what he follows the chapters for.

~MG ;]
*face palm* Calling me an otaku?! Seriously? Have a laugh mate! This just leads me to believe you really do not see where I am coming from! I suppose Kishi is also an otaku from taking inspiration and studies from other mangas! If you're going to insult me (yes otaku is an insult), at least use appropriate terminology and not ones you do not fully understand!

Sometimes... it's better to make it short x] Kubo didn't .
Nice simple and too the point!
 

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*sigh* yes bleach is pretty bad now... i mean instead of showing real loops and forward thinking he just says "aizen planned everything out" and then contradicts himself in the same section (just as an example). his work is pretty lacklustre now... interdimensional ichigo... wtf was all that about... don't make me laugh >_>

anyways i'm not here just to support your point even though in my own opinion his ideas are a bit thin on the ground and rather than being a shock it's more of a wtf... the point also i want to make is yes you may have a "career choice" of being a manga artist or creating manga, but you should at least agree with me that people also have valid opinions on a number of grounds.

just because someone isn't currently making manga doesn't mean they are less intellectual than you. in actual fact they could have spent their entire life with manga and be comparing it to various hundreds of other manga they have read.
secondly, basically the point you make pretty much comes across as you comparing yourself to the likes of kubo, kishi and oda etc. who have made millions from their creations. you can't say you have more right really to criticise unless:
A) you have officially studied or are officially studying a course based on manga/story writing at a college/university, which is possible.
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B) you are a well renowned author with serious official publications which have become famous. still a possibility, however it has not been shown.

the simple fact is, anyone that reads many manga are "studying" it... we all have to think about it and take in the storyline, and we all criticise some things about it, if not the most of the manga.
 

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*sigh* yes bleach is pretty bad now... i mean instead of showing real loops and forward thinking he just says "aizen planned everything out" and then contradicts himself in the same section (just as an example). his work is pretty lacklustre now... interdimensional ichigo... wtf was all that about... don't make me laugh >_>

anyways i'm not here just to support your point even though in my own opinion his ideas are a bit thin on the ground and rather than being a shock it's more of a wtf... the point also i want to make is yes you may have a "career choice" of being a manga artist or creating manga, but you should at least agree with me that people also have valid opinions on a number of grounds.

just because someone isn't currently making manga doesn't mean they are less intellectual than you. in actual fact they could have spent their entire life with manga and be comparing it to various hundreds of other manga they have read.
secondly, basically the point you make pretty much comes across as you comparing yourself to the likes of kubo, kishi and oda etc. who have made millions from their creations. you can't say you have more right really to criticise unless:
A) you have officially studied or are officially studying a course based on manga/story writing at a college/university, which is possible.
or
B) you are a well renowned author with serious official publications which have become famous. still a possibility, however it has not been shown.

the simple fact is, anyone that reads many manga are "studying" it... we all have to think about it and take in the storyline, and we all criticise some things about it, if not the most of the manga.
Christ! Read over what I say clearly.... not once did I make a point of saying I am better than anyone... or my career choice putts me in a higher seat of opinion... I only even mentioned that in response to him saying I take manga too seriously!! Thanks for the lecture!...

And no I do not consider myself on par with Kubo and certainly not Kishimoto... I call their names only for example... i.e. The fact they themselves studied manga (like MOST mangaka) in order to have a better understanding of what they wish to do... Yet the one who calls me otaku, for doing the same would not call them otaku...

Understand?
 
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