[Predictions] Bleach Manga Chapter 617 Discussion and 618 Predictions

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NaNaNaaaaa

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then why the **** are you reading the manga

I loved Bleach once, it was far superior to Naruto but Kubo ruined it by seemingly losing all his marbles but there is still a part of me that hopes he will come to his senses and start treating Bleach properly again, that he will find a band aid, so I keep reading it with that hope and getting angry because he keeps dissapointing me, something I suspect I will keep doing until it ends, maybe he will save Toshiro and Ukitaki and I can ***** a bit less XD

You see I don't like stories where characters are killed off, Naruto was different, except for Neji, Kishi knew what he was doing. For years and years and years Bleach was a manga that delivered drama without cheap death, then Kubo changed tack, which is a low thing for a writer to do years into a story and I felt very betrayed by this
 
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I loved Bleach once, it was far superior to Naruto but Kubo ruined it by seemingly losing all his marbles but there is still a part of me that hopes he will come to his senses and start treating Bleach properly again, that he will find a band aid, so I keep reading it with that hope and getting angry because he keeps dissapointing me, something I suspect I will keep doing until it ends, maybe he will save Toshiro and Ukitaki and I can ***** a bit less XD

wotfok? you like toshiro and ukitake? both of them are about as far from Lord Aizen as you can be
 

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But that's not how dimensions work say if a 3rd being goes to a 2d world the won't be able to perceive him unless a 2d projection of him is made as he has one extra dimension of height which they don't have.

So for Shunsui to see him perceive him it has to be a projection of Aizen only as he is transcendental and if physics is to be followed can only be perceived if they see his projection.



Yeah, I think it's because of his transcendental nature he's called GOD. Probably that's the reason Bach missed him.
Dude... I think you're applying too much physics here. It would be one hell of a troll if he was all just a projection.
 

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wotfok? you like toshiro and ukitake? both of them are about as far from Lord Aizen as you can be

What difference does that make? I don't hate Aizen, I just wish he was fleshed out more. Its another example of Kubo being lazy and waisting a good character
 

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What difference does that make? I don't hate Aizen, I just wish he was fleshed out more. Its another example of Kubo being lazy and waisting a good character

waisting? like How Lord Aizen wasted Gin?
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I don't hate Aizen, I actually think he has the potential to be a very good character is fleshed out. Aizen isn't a God though only the soul king is but he wanted to be a God so I suppose the tital could pertain to him but it makes more sense if it oertains to the soul king

No it doesn't make more sense if it's about the soul king. SK didn't even return per se. He's not dying anymore but Aizen is on the cover, he was the cliff hanger of the last chapter, his last chapters (years ago) were called Deicide (killing of a God) so how does it make more sense for the title to pertain to KS and not to Aizen ??????????????
 

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Ok, I got it, you're stupid

I used to have a lot of respect for Kubo but I lost that respect, I do still respect him greatly as an artist and a character creater though he has slipped in the character creation department recently but still, he is one of the very best. But I do not respect his story telling skills, I did but after the Aizen stuff, it is as though another person started writing the story of Bleach.

Kubo once said that he has never killed off a character and that he was nervous about doing so, then he said it was easier than he thought, I think it was a poot idea for him to do that, it seemed to start the downturn in his writing but maybe it is unrealted and life events altered his skill, suppose we will never know.

waisting? like How Lord Aizen wasted Gin?
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As an Aizen fan I would have thought you would like to see Kubo do more with the character and his background.
 

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Actually Gin's death was pathetic as were his motivations, he was a wasted character but Bleach is full of those.

i couldnot agree more with this one.!!

Gin is beyond pathetic tBH, his motives was like biggest WTF of all time.!!
 

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i couldnot agree more with this one.!!

Gin is beyond pathetic tBH, his motives was like biggest WTF of all time.!!

As a character Gin's personality and desighn were excellent but Kubo dropped the ball in everyother way with him. Kubo likes to push characters that people don't like and as a comercial writer that is a very stupid thing to do. Kubo never seemed to like Gin much, he wanted him to be creepy and people found him cute, I think he thought of the character as a failure and that was enourmously short sighted of him
 

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I was reading rubbing my nipples while reading this. That's how epic it was. Lml
 

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As a character Gin's personality and desighn were excellent but Kubo dropped the ball in everyother way with him. Kubo likes to push characters that people don't like and as a comercial writer that is a very stupid thing to do. Kubo never seemed to like Gin much, he wanted him to be creepy and people found him cute, I think he thought of the character as a failure and that was enourmously short sighted of him

I'm reading through the thread and I see you dissing Kubo everytime you get the chance.

Gin is dead, what's the big ****ing deal ? Neji is my fav character on Naruto and he got wasted so bad after being hyped so much. Do I care ? Hell yes I do! But do I care enough to go on a thread that has nothing to do with Neji and starts looking salty all over the place ? **** no.

So ease it up man, Aizen is back. His character is not even bland, his powers are OP but that's not saying much in Bleach (Bach or Yamamoto, dude with Ink whose name I forgot) Maybe we'll see more of Aizen's past and that'd be a good thing but who knows.


Also Kubo has his flaws like every writers but just not like you've been saying all day long

And last thing (to answer Shunsui non spoken question : HOW ?)

Because I'm mother****ing Aizen!
 

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I'm reading through the thread and I see you dissing Kubo everytime you get the chance.

Gin is dead, what's the big ****ing deal ? Neji is my fav character on Naruto and he got wasted so bad after being hyped so much. Do I care ? Hell yes I do! But do I care enough to go on a thread that has nothing to do with Neji and starts looking salty all over the place ? **** no.

So ease it up man, Aizen is back. His character is not even bland, his powers are OP but that's not saying much in Bleach (Bach or Yamamoto, dude with Ink whose name I forgot) Maybe we'll see more of Aizen's past and that'd be a good thing but who knows.


Also Kubo has his flaws like every writers but just not like you've been saying all day long

And last thing (to answer Shunsui non spoken question : HOW ?)

Because I'm mother****ing Aizen!

My feelings about Kubo are not about Gin. Gin was a waisted character but I got over that a long time ago. My problem with Kubo is what he has done with Bleach. When the Aizen stuff finished it was like someone else took over the writing, thats my problem with him. I had a lot of respect for the man but Bleach has decended to the point where I actually thought I was reading fan made chapters. THere is dropping the ball but Kubo never picked it up again.

Recently the chapters have improved but the last three have seen it decline again, I don't get how someone can change style so quickly in a story and its something someone telling a story should never do.

Still, I ***** about it and next week I will be reading it again *sigh* I'm just venting my dissapointment

I don't really like Aizen, people only like him because he is OP and cool, the man never even changes his expression, what I would like to see with Aizen is a character with greater personality, depth, background and complexity, Kubo might suprise us, we will have to wait and see
 
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then why the **** are you reading the manga

Because when you have invested time in reading 500 chapters u kinda want to finish it too. Bleach is crap lol. There is no doubt about it. Its just some moments make it cool and badass.
 
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Because when you have invested time in reading 500 chapters u kinda want to finish it too. Bleach is crap lol. There is no doubt about it. Its just some moments make it cool and badass.

I dropped One Piece during chapter 600 or so, even though the manga was good. I tried to stick with the anime mostly. Doesn't mean anything. If Bleach was crap, then it wouldn't be one of the top selling manga's in Japan Lol . The problem is, you try do defy the truth, even though, deep down, you love Bleach. I bet your room is filled with bleach posters and stuff Lol .
 

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But that's not how dimensions work say if a 3rd being goes to a 2d world the won't be able to perceive him unless a 2d projection of him is made as he has one extra dimension of height which they don't have.

So for Shunsui to see him perceive him it has to be a projection of Aizen only as he is transcendental and if physics is to be followed can only be perceived if they see his projection.



Yeah, I think it's because of his transcendental nature he's called GOD. Probably that's the reason Bach missed him.

Aizen is no longer transcendent the hogyoku stripped that power away from him.
 

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Awesome it seems Yhwach does know about Mimihagi .

Aizen came up with plan already !! The just as planned face is back !! Can't Wait !

Cannot wait for neXt chapter . Will Aizen help or cause trouble to soul society ?
 

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My feelings about Kubo are not about Gin. Gin was a waisted character but I got over that a long time ago. My problem with Kubo is what he has done with Bleach. When the Aizen stuff finished it was like someone else took over the writing, thats my problem with him. I had a lot of respect for the man but Bleach has decended to the point where I actually thought I was reading fan made chapters. THere is dropping the ball but Kubo never picked it up again.

Recently the chapters have improved but the last three have seen it decline again, I don't get how someone can change style so quickly in a story and its something someone telling a story should never do.

Still, I ***** about it and next week I will be reading it again *sigh* I'm just venting my dissapointment

I don't really like Aizen, people only like him because he is OP and cool, the man never even changes his expression, what I would like to see with Aizen is a character with greater personality, depth, background and complexity, Kubo might suprise us, we will have to wait and see

Saying you don't like aizen is like saying you don't like itachi...smh god is here get over it.
 

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I dropped One Piece during chapter 600 or so, even though the manga was good. I tried to stick with the anime mostly. Doesn't mean anything. If Bleach was crap, then it wouldn't be one of the top selling manga's in Japan Lol . The problem is, you try do defy the truth, even though, deep down, you love Bleach. I bet your room is filled with bleach posters and stuff .



See what I mean? It used to be top 5. But look at the standing now. Bleach keeps getting less sales every month.

Sure I love bleach.. I am bursting with excitement. Lol
 
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