[Predictions] Bleach Manga 505 Discussion and 506 Predictions

[CandyHacks]

Wow after seeing Kenpachi losing worthlessly I just lost motivation to hope for anything from now on. Tite still hasn't showed what's been going on with Ichigo and Kisuke, even for that it's probably going to be someone we already know. And I really have a feeling next week's chapter will be about Ichigo rather than Yama cause obviously that would be too good to be true.

 

[TheHokage]

We know 2 of the war potentials now
Ichigo and Kenpachi who do you think the other 3 are. Kisuke, Isshin, Uryu maybe...

 

[ANBU Kakashi23]

omfg there is simply way too much epicness in this chapter, i think im moist and i dont even have the parts for that :T_T:

yama-jii is about to go in on levels previously unseen in bleach, besides maybe aizen vs ichigo, but this is cpt commander on a bad day, definitely not to be ****ed with in any way shape or form. and we so rarely get to see shunsui apply himself so that should be good as well. god damnit @ the fall of kenpachi though, kubo got me vexed for that

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i just cant imagine kenpachi getting punked out with no eye patch, like really we knew he was going to loose but weak? buckbeard must also be on another level entirely. assuming they dont cut away or flash back to kenpachi, this fight could easily go down as the most fierce battle in bleach

 

[sistyN]

awesome chapter 5/5 , yamaji is the real Beast , Zaraki will be fight , he is tough guy , he just playing with them .

 

[NLee]

I believe that kenpachi also had his eyepatch off as well i just cant believe that kubo did him in like that.......

To be honest, it was painfully PAINFULLY obvious that Kenpachi was going to be destroyed. Buckbeard (his names Juha Bach) is equal to Yamamoto. If Kenpachi were to put up even a sliver of a decent fight against Juha then it would mean he could stand up against Yamamoto as well which is ridiculous. They are on entirely different levels.

I imagine Kenpachi went at him without his eyepatch and with both hands. Juha just blocked and retaliated, effortlessly. End of fight.

I bet , that Kenpachi gave buckbeard hell of a fight.

But Kenny is not dead , Genriusay came to the rescue.

The right hand man of Buckbeard will get owned by Yachiru.

Also quincys use hacks to defeat oponents , so they suck anyways lol.

Kenpachi with 1000+ years of experience could have raped buckbeard for sure.

Kenpachi did not give Juha a hell of a fight. Honestly, Juha wasn't even sweating. He wasn't even breathing hard. He was completely and utterly at ease. His clothes weren't even ripped for god sakes. As sad as it is to say, Kenpachi was dead on his feet the moment he approached him.

As for the Quincy's technique, it's not hacks. They were prepared and found the ultimate counter vs the Shinigami. Kenpachi doesn't even have a Bankai to steal so I don't know where you're getting this justification to say the Quincys suck just because they can steal them.

Byakuya himself said that the Stern Ritters weren't enemies they could defeat without using Bankais. This was at the beginning of their confrontation. This is proof that they aren't just hype. The Stern Ritters are genuinely powerful. They were acknowledged even before it was discovered that they can steal Bankais.

Their techniques are their techniques. Anything and everything is fair game.

We know 2 of the war potentials now
Ichigo and Kenpachi who do you think the other 3 are. Kisuke, Isshin, Uryu maybe...

I definitely think Urahara and Ishida are amongst the 5. Not sure about the 5th one though.

 

[Shame]

Still waiting for hirako and momo to whoop some ass.

Also kensei and rose get in the fight to.


Also *********** translation for his name said yuHabaha. So which name is right juha or yuhabaha.

 

[Flame Alchemist]

my thoughts on war potantials,

the guy who fought ichigo (was it kirge?) said that his attack shouldn't be more powerful than ishida's. so I also believe ishida uryuu is one of the potantials.

as for 4th I think yamamoto is one of them. I mean everyone saw his superman-mode in the last chapter. even without bankai he's tearing shit up. but he's the bossman so he might have given some other class. in other words he's either a special case or another war potantial.

and for the last one it may be yoruichi. I would certainly want it to be kisuke but he admitted that he couldn't have stopped kirge(?) if he wasn't distracted by ichigo. so I doubt he's one of them. he's the man that's for sure but I don't think it's his time yet. oh and when ichigo entered hueco mundo BB said that "1 of the 5 potantials, ichigo has entered HM". nothing was said about kisuke.

I say it's yoruichi because she doesn't use zanpakuto so no one can steal her powers. and she's probably stronger than kenpachi. if kenpachi is a war potantial she has to be one too

 

[TheHokage]

my thoughts on war potantials,

the guy who fought ichigo (was it kirge?) said that his attack shouldn't be more powerful than ishida's. so I also believe ishida uryuu is one of the potantials.

as for 4th I think yamamoto is one of them. I mean everyone saw his superman-mode in the last chapter. even without bankai he's tearing shit up. but he's the bossman so he might have given some other class. in other words he's either a special case or another war potantial.

and for the last one it may be yoruichi. I would certainly want it to be kisuke but he admitted that he couldn't have stopped kirge(?) if he wasn't distracted by ichigo. so I doubt he's one of them. he's the man that's for sure but I don't think it's his time yet. oh and when ichigo entered hueco mundo BB said that "1 of the 5 potantials, ichigo has entered HM". nothing was said about kisuke.

I say it's yoruichi because she doesn't use zanpakuto so no one can steal her powers. and she's probably stronger than kenpachi. if kenpachi is a war potantial she has to be one too

Hmm interesting but to be a war potential I doubt you have to be just strong and Urahara is we've never seen his Bankai so it must be good however he's smart.

Am I the only one here who think Isshin and Buckbeard have a some history there it just seems to me it's the only way they can explain his story.

 

[Flame Alchemist]

Hmm interesting but to be a war potential I doubt you have to be just strong and Urahara is we've never seen his Bankai so it must be good however he's smart.

Am I the only one here who think Isshin and Buckbeard have a some history there it just seems to me it's the only way they can explain his story.

of course not just strength. but right now downfall of SS is mainly because of shinigami's inability to use bankai.

kenpachi is average level captain. kyoraku, shinji, urahara are all stronger than him. however his power isn't related to bankai so quincy can't rip his powers off. that's why he was a war potantial.
ichigo's bankai can't be stolen and he's not just a shinigami he's got hollow powers, fullbring etc. that's why he's also a war potantial.

normally urahara is stronger, probably way stronger than kenpachi. but he isn't special against quincy (urahara is always exceptional but this is about fighting style) so I tend to believe he's not a war potantial. he's one of my fav. characters and I'm dying to see him getting more screen-time but I don't think this is his time yet.

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and there is also this. urahara invaded HM along with ichigo but only ichigo was named as a war potantial. though it's also possible that they haven't noticed urahara and thought that ichigo was alone but it's highly unlikely.

that's why for me the possible candidates are,

yamamoto --> he is either a war potantial or classed in a more dangerous category.

yoruichi --> she is on par with urahara's shikai even though she doesn't use zanpakuto. quincy can't steal her powers and she's even stronger than kenpachi. she's probably one of the war potantials considering kenpachi is also there.

uryuu --> based on kirge, uryuu is stronger than him. if so he should be able to cause a lot of trouble.

ryuuken, isshin, aizen are also possibilities. ryuuken is probably a badass quincy, isshin fought on par with aizen while he wasn't evolved into "more than just shinigami" and aizen, well no need for words.

 

[Uchiha seeker]

Kenpachi gets up and laughs... thats what i predict

 

[NLee]

my thoughts on war potantials,

the guy who fought ichigo (was it kirge?) said that his attack shouldn't be more powerful than ishida's. so I also believe ishida uryuu is one of the potantials.

as for 4th I think yamamoto is one of them. I mean everyone saw his superman-mode in the last chapter. even without bankai he's tearing shit up. but he's the bossman so he might have given some other class. in other words he's either a special case or another war potantial.

and for the last one it may be yoruichi. I would certainly want it to be kisuke but he admitted that he couldn't have stopped kirge(?) if he wasn't distracted by ichigo. so I doubt he's one of them. he's the man that's for sure but I don't think it's his time yet. oh and when ichigo entered hueco mundo BB said that "1 of the 5 potantials, ichigo has entered HM". nothing was said about kisuke.

I say it's yoruichi because she doesn't use zanpakuto so no one can steal her powers. and she's probably stronger than kenpachi. if kenpachi is a war potantial she has to be one too

Very good input. I can see this as well. The main reason SS is struggling right now is because they're fighting against their own powers.

2 of the 5 war potentials have been people who are not bound by this whole Bankai theft thing. I see no reason why Yoruichi can't be one of them.

Kenpachi gets up and laughs... thats what i predict

I'm sorry, did you not see Kenpachi being held up by this throat with his eye patch off? Did you not see that Juha Bach wasn't even phased? He wasn't tired, he wasn't panting, and his clothes weren't even the least bit damaged.

You're wrong. Kenpachi is not getting back up.

 

[home]

five out of five solely because of the bit with shunsui, flannders is about to get fd up

 

[Baldy]

Omg, OPedness in SS right now ._.

 

[Forza]

Fine chapter... i didnt see that coming, kenpachi losing without a single scratch on the enemy? wow, that guy must be a beast...

About the 5 war potentials...
Ichigo and kenpachi are 2 confirmed war pontentials (From now on WP, or SWP special war potential)
I'd say yamamoto is another for sure. The question is which ones are the other 2?, id say isshin kurosaki, yes, ichigo's father, due to having the same zampakuto nature, and the other is yet to be seen, or aizen, even if he is locked in prison, he is still a danger to the enemy. Another possibility would be the most powerfull wizard (i dont know who is the strongest), ishida, and ishida's father... Whoever is, the kirge's killer, the who who cut him in two is one of the other 2 remaining WP, and is not yoruichi (not zampakuto = cant cut)
I wouldnt considerate the "not having zampakuto" for yourichi making her another WP, and she is only fast, not trully powerfull, and since byakuya wasnt even a war potential, how can yourichi be? they were close in speed, and byuakuya surpassed her in attack power.
Just the time will show us the WP, and how will they end the war.

PS: any chance of someone in the zero squad to be one of the war potentials?

 

[Flame Alchemist]

Fine chapter... i didnt see that coming, kenpachi losing without a single scratch on the enemy? wow, that guy must be a beast...

About the 5 war potentials...
Ichigo and kenpachi are 2 confirmed war pontentials (From now on WP, or SWP special war potential)
I'd say yamamoto is another for sure. The question is which ones are the other 2?, id say isshin kurosaki, yes, ichigo's father, due to having the same zampakuto nature, and the other is yet to be seen, or aizen, even if he is locked in prison, he is still a danger to the enemy. Another possibility would be the most powerfull wizard (i dont know who is the strongest), ishida, and ishida's father... Whoever is, the kirge's killer, the who who cut him in two is one of the other 2 remaining WP, and is not yoruichi (not zampakuto = cant cut)
I wouldnt considerate the "not having zampakuto" for yourichi making her another WP, and she is only fast, not trully powerfull, and since byakuya wasnt even a war potential, how can yourichi be? they were close in speed, and byuakuya surpassed her in attack power.
Just the time will show us the WP, and how will they end the war.

PS: any chance of someone in the zero squad to be one of the war potentials?

byakuya and kenpachi are almost equal in power. byakuya couldn't even defeat 1 enemy but kenpachi owned three of them without getting a single scratch and why is that? because byakuya was unable to use bankai so he couldn't use his real power. but kenpachi could do whatever he liked and that's why he was a war potantial.

and you say that yoruichi is equal to byakuya in speed and weaker in power?

you are way off the target. yoruichi is on kisuke's level if not higher.
during the fight against aizen isshin and kisuke were using their shikai while yoruichi wasn't using anything and those three did more than kyouraku, hitsugaya, komamura, soi-fon, shinji, lisa, rose and love, all together 8 captain class shinigami. and both kyouraku and shinji were high class captains, in other words above average. however even with these two they couldn't touch aizen.

but yoruichi, kisuke, isshin were able to push aizen even after he transformed. that means these 3 are way above the others (except for kyouraku and shinji). neither byakuya nor kenpachi can be considered as a match for these three and yoruichi is one of these 3 while not using her zanpakuto.

 

[Forza]

byakuya and kenpachi are almost equal in power. byakuya couldn't even defeat 1 enemy but kenpachi owned three of them without getting a single scratch and why is that? because byakuya was unable to use bankai so he couldn't use his real power. but kenpachi could do whatever he liked and that's why he was a war potantial.

and you say that yoruichi is equal to byakuya in speed and weaker in power?

you are way off the target. yoruichi is on kisuke's level if not higher.
during the fight against aizen isshin and kisuke were using their shikai while yoruichi wasn't using anything and those three did more than kyouraku, hitsugaya, komamura, soi-fon, shinji, lisa, rose and love, all together 8 captain class shinigami. and both kyouraku and shinji were high class captains, in other words above average. however even with these two they couldn't touch aizen.

but yoruichi, kisuke, isshin were able to push aizen even after he transformed. that means these 3 are way above the others (except for kyouraku and shinji). neither byakuya nor kenpachi can be considered as a match for these three and yoruichi is one of these 3 while not using her zanpakuto.

Well, honestly, in the aizen figth it was all thanks to urahara, the smart guy.

He made the armor for yoruichi, he restrained aizen several times, just to make isshin and yoruichi attack him, getsuga + urahara armor hits, despite that, i dont see anything else to help yoruichi.

And aizen in that fight didnt even used the shikai (i dont remember the name), the mirage and illusions weapon, he didnt tricked them, unlike the 8 captains fight. So aizen just changed himself in the 8 captains figth, while he didnt even care about being hit in the isshin+urahara+yoruichi fight.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Can't wait to see shinji

 

[Lankeysob]

I think Grimmjow when he makes his reappearance will be one of the war potentials.

 

[NLee]

Well, honestly, in the aizen figth it was all thanks to urahara, the smart guy.

He made the armor for yoruichi, he restrained aizen several times, just to make isshin and yoruichi attack him, getsuga + urahara armor hits, despite that, i dont see anything else to help yoruichi.

And aizen in that fight didnt even used the shikai (i dont remember the name), the mirage and illusions weapon, he didnt tricked them, unlike the 8 captains fight. So aizen just changed himself in the 8 captains figth, while he didnt even care about being hit in the isshin+urahara+yoruichi fight.

Your reason for stating that Byakuya > Yoruichi has no support whatsoever.

The fact that Yoruichi wore armor that Urahara invented doesn't take anything away from her. Did Byakuya fight against Aizen? No. So where exactly is the basis for your comparison? You don't judge people by comparing things that don't have anything to do with each other. Yoruichi actually damaged Aizen's crystallis form. Byakuya on the other hand wouldn't have been able to make a dent.

Yoruichi is a master Hakuda user and one of the fastest beings in Soul Society - known as the Goddess of Flash. She's proven her superiority in this area against Byakuya on several occasions. Byakuya even resorted to using techniques that he learned from her. To top it off she's also a master assassin that can kill most people before they even know what hit them. Combine her hand-to-hand techniques with her Shunko and she's damn near unstoppable.

Yoruichi also has 100+ years (bare minimum) more experience than Byakuya does and who knows how long she served as a Captain before the flashback chapters.

Lastly, Yoruichi is a Shinigami. That means she has a zanpaktou (Please don't be a moron and ask me to show it to you...). She just opts not to use it because she prefers Hakuda. In the case that she actually got cornered there is absolutely nothing stopping her from using her zanpaktou which is likely her trump card. Stop underestimating Yoruichi. Your mere attempt at Byakuya > Yoruichi is painful.

No matter how you look at it Yoruichi is stronger than Byakuya for more than just a few reasons. He is an average-class Captain. Above them are the Vizards, and above them are the others (Urahara, Yoruichi, Isshin, etc.), and above them are the Veterans. Byakuya is strong, but compared to Yoruichi he is still a kid, relatively speaking.

 

[TheHokage]

byakuya and kenpachi are almost equal in power. byakuya couldn't even defeat 1 enemy but kenpachi owned three of them without getting a single scratch and why is that? because byakuya was unable to use bankai so he couldn't use his real power. but kenpachi could do whatever he liked and that's why he was a war potantial.

and you say that yoruichi is equal to byakuya in speed and weaker in power?

you are way off the target. yoruichi is on kisuke's level if not higher.
during the fight against aizen isshin and kisuke were using their shikai while yoruichi wasn't using anything and those three did more than kyouraku, hitsugaya, komamura, soi-fon, shinji, lisa, rose and love, all together 8 captain class shinigami. and both kyouraku and shinji were high class captains, in other words above average. however even with these two they couldn't touch aizen.

but yoruichi, kisuke, isshin were able to push aizen even after he transformed. that means these 3 are way above the others (except for kyouraku and shinji). neither byakuya nor kenpachi can be considered as a match for these three and yoruichi is one of these 3 while not using her zanpakuto.

Actually Isshin wasn't using Shikai he was using his normal zanpaktou shape but we do know it's name. Engetsu.