[Spoilers] Bleach Explained

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The whole manga has religious and cultural overtones as cohesion devices. Hueco Mundo means "World of hollowness" or "Hole in the world" in Spanish (Though I think they might've been trying to say 'Hollow World' they just got the syntax mixed up, if so). The Spanish reference doesn't stop there. Sado is from Mexico and his grandfather told him he has the devil in his arms.

But notice that Hollows (demons) come from a hole in the world (Hell) The Soul Society is likened to Heaven. Lost souls are sent to either Hueco Mundo or the Soul Society (Hell or Heaven) They are all people with Japanese names (Japan). All Shinigami are seemingly Japanese.

Xcution members were also Japanese. The Visoreds had three American names among them, but the rest were Japanese.

The Arrancar, however, had names that seemed like attempts at making up Spanish names (Kinda like how DBZ attempts to make up English names). Notice how being killed by a hollow makes you one? Zombie or Vampire ref. Notice how the Quincy destroy hollows, but Shinigami simply send them to Hell? Shinigami are reapers, yes, but also exorcists. Quincy are priests, yes, but also terrorists.

The Quincy have a heavy German overtone. I don't think I need to elaborate on the Nazi refs. Just know that keeping things cultural makes it easier to keep the story cohesive and consistently thematic.

The war between the Shinigami and the Quincy is a symbolic war between Angels and those who play God. Uryuu represents someone who is conflicted about religion; or fed up with it. Yhwach is meant to resemble Christ. The Quincy invasion is meant to symbolize the ever-spreading influence of Christianity all over the world.

The assault on the Soul King symbolizes how people are systematically replacing God, with Jesus. The right Hand symbolizes Lucifer/Satan. The right hand taking over symbolizes Satanism going Head-to-Head with Christianity. The Shinigami are losing to the Quincy because in the real world, People can't see Angels, but they can see priests, so priests have better influence over the world and it's religions.

It seems the manga is implying that Jesus and the priests of the world are killed because they would otherwise rid the world completely of evil and upset the balance; ether that or that they are actually terrorists. Yhwach's beef with the Soul King is for allowing it.

So, why the cultural refs?

In World War 2, Germany and Japan were on the same side and Mexico was on the opposing side. Quincy and Shinigami were once on the same side, too. The hollows were always a menace to the Shinigami and Quincy. The Shinigami and the Quincy agreed on that about Hollows, but could not agree on how to deal with them.

Sound familiar?

The priests set out to destroy 'evil', the Angels set out to put 'evil' in it's place. Terrorists will kill people they deem evil, exorcists will try to save people they deem evil. Which brings us to Characters, properties, and their ultimate roles in the symbolism:

Orihime - Doctor; Healing all with no concern about religion
Sado - Police officer; Devil arms, right? Read:guns; Protector with no concern about religion, using a tool that most deem evil
Uryuu - Scientist; dispelling belief in Angels and demons, but leaning more and more towards Christianity over time
Vizoreds - Budhists; Embracing a higher understanding of the yin/yang balance of good and evil (Shinigami/Hollow; Angel/Demon)
Arrancar - Technology; Originally intended as a distraction, but can be used for good as well
Xcution - Pagans; Seeking power from within and around with no affiliation towards Angels, nor Demons.
Gotei 13 - Prophets; Miracle workers that deliver a divine message
Schutzstaffel - Disciples
Ichigo - United States; Can embrace any faith or culture, but is ultimately seeking a higher purpose, more power, and to police the world.
Reishi - Influence over mankind
Zanpakto - Notariety; The ability to command influence starts here
Shikai - Popularity; indirect influence
Bankai - Fame; influence obtained from many, over many
Bleut vein - Pride, stubbornness; Ability refuse influence, free will
Sankt Altar - The ability to take someone's following; the ability to use someone's own arguments against them
The "Almighty" - Blind and/or unwavering faith; The ability (or percieved ability) to trump any argument about religion;
Volstandig - Looks like it's supposed to be "The Holy Spirit".
Ichibei's brush - History, the Bible, religious texts; The ability to gain influence through text
Fullbring - Sorcery, Psycic ability; Influence that can be taught but not shared and is unique to the user
Auschwalen - Martyrdom, sacrifice; Influence and validity gained through persecution
Quincy Schrift - Talent; the inbourne ability to obtain fame
Hollofication - Resolve; Doing what is necessary even if it is deemed evil
Karakura Town - The world
Fake Karakura town - Church
The Seireitei - Heaven
Rukongai - Pergatory
Hueco Mundo - Hell
Soul King's Palace - Eden




Now you should see why Ywach keeps asking Ichigo "Why are you resisting me?". Why he scolds Ichigo for trying to protect everything. Also, why Ichigo's attempt to save the Soul King made things worse, which is because, in real life, people's attempts to assist "God" only make things worse. From the pretentious representations, to the very altering of the Bible, People are undermining themselves and their own efforts. Bleach is a story about religious warfare and world domination. Just sayin'

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Next time: Naruto Explained :flakez:
 
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Urr logic sounds good.great job
Thanks

Holy shiet, Lol. can't rep at the moment, but everything makes sense actually.
See? Thanks

this philosophy shit is too long, even kubo himself admits inferiority to you
Tell him he can't fool me. I know a grudge when I see one...

I only ever made about 5% of those connections. Nice thread :)
Thanks. I was originally just answering a post about why Quincy resemble Nazis, and then I just got carried away pointin' out all the refs. So, I decided to make it thread unto itself.

You're overthinking this bruh.

And also it's:

Blutvene
Vollständig
And
Auswählen

Maybe I am over-thinking this. But that doesn't make me wrong. And sorry for the misspellings.

Thanks, all, for reading. :win:
 

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The whole manga has religious and cultural overtones as cohesion devices. Hueco Mundo means "World of hollowness" or "Hole in the world" in Spanish (Though I think they might've been trying to say 'Hollow World' they just got the syntax mixed up, if so). The Spanish reference doesn't stop there. Sado is from Mexico and his grandfather told him he has the devil in his arms.
Written in kanji, Hueco Mundo does mean Hollow World.

But notice that Hollows (demons) come from a hole in the world (Hell) The Soul Society is likened to Heaven. Lost souls are sent to either Hueco Mundo or the Soul Society (Hell or Heaven) They are all people with Japanese names (Japan). All Shinigami are seemingly Japanese.
Hueco Mundo is not hell. Hell exist in Bleach, it's cannon.
 
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Sometimes I think we're rooting for the bad guys in Bleach in that the shimigami are demons. A lot of their bankais are skulls and flames. Captain Genryusai told Kyoraku that he was known as a demon 1000 years ago. Kenpachi told Unohana that they'd just be murderous outlaws if they weren't so powerful.

Remember how frightening and aggressive the shinigami were in the first season? Ikkaku loved violence. The control and structure that Captain Genryusai imposed on soul society allows the shinigami to channel their aggression - that's all.

And the shinigami could be wrong about balance. Maybe the soul king sleeps because we insist on balance. Perhaps if the shinigami stopped insisting on balance then the soul king would wake up and he would sustain the world of the living with his own hands and Mayuri wouldn't have to kill 28,000 humans every so often.

Perhaps the living world must increase and soul society must decrease and everyone should stop playing god. Perhaps the soul king wants the living world to outweigh soul society and for both worlds to rely on him to support them. Perhaps he doesn't want souls lingering thousands of years in soul society. Perhaps he sleeps because no one relies on him and they keep insisting on doing it their way.
 
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Sometimes I think we're rooting for the bad guys in Bleach in that the shimigami are demons. A lot of their bankais are skulls and flames. Captain Genryusai told Kyoraku that he was known as a demon 1000 years ago. Kenpachi told Unohana that they'd just be murderous outlaws if they weren't so powerful.

Remember how frightening and aggressive the shinigami were in the first season? Ikkaku loved violence. The control and structure that Captain Genryusai imposed on soul society allows the shinigami to channel their aggression - that's all.

And the shinigami could be wrong about balance. Maybe the soul king sleeps because we insist on balance. Perhaps if the shinigami stopped insisting on balance then the soul king would wake up and he would sustain the world of the living with his own hands and Mayuri wouldn't have to kill 28,000 humans every so often.

Perhaps the living world must increase and soul society must decrease and everyone should stop playing god. Perhaps the soul king wants the living world to outweigh soul society and for both worlds to rely on him to support them. Perhaps he doesn't want souls lingering thousands of years in soul society. Perhaps he sleeps because no one relies on him and they keep insisting on doing it their way.
You have a couple of points here. I did wonder in the beginning why they would even need Ban Kai or Kidou. There is no hollow in the Top Tier of Bleach, so with Ywach sealed away and the Quincy near extinct, there was no justifiable reason for mid-tier Shinigami to be as strong as they were. I mean for what, right? We have a world of Gokus that just get stronger and stronger in case a strong enemy emerges? And they waited a Millenium? And still weren't ready? Sounds like they've just been bullying hollows to me. And yeah, the Soul King doesn't wanna choose between his son and his general so he... sleeps? All imagery of how Kubo sees the world from a spiritual standpoint, I'm sure.

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Re:aching new Heights beyond the Precipice

The whole manga has religious and cultural overtones as cohesion devices. Hueco Mundo means "World of hollowness" or "Hole in the world" in Spanish (Though I think they might've been trying to say 'Hollow World' they just got the syntax mixed up, if so). The Spanish reference doesn't stop there. Sado is from Mexico and his grandfather told him he has the devil in his arms.
The Arrancar, however, had names that seemed like attempts at making up Spanish names (Kinda like how DBZ attempts to make up English names).
Kubo's use of Spanish falls more under the The way he misspells words and misuses grammar makes it funnier to read.
Examples including: "Privaron Espada," "Deja Chocolate Aqui," and "Exacta!"
Kubo Interview said:
Then I flip through a dictionary and look up a lot of words with similar meanings. Out of those choices, I pick the word that matches the right feeling and that has a good sound to it I’m sure to the native speakers it might have grammatical problems.
- - - - -

They are all people with Japanese names (Japan). All Shinigami are seemingly Japanese.
Xcution members were also Japanese. The Visoreds had three American names among them, but the rest were Japanese.
I don't think their Japanese affiliation matters much in this case.
The war between the Shinigami and the Quincy is a symbolic war between Angels and those who play God. Uryuu represents someone who is conflicted about religion; or fed up with it. Yhwach is meant to resemble Christ. The Quincy invasion is meant to symbolize the ever-spreading influence of Christianity all over the world.
I like this analogy. Would the Spanish Inquisition be like the Arrancars/Espada taking back their territory? Who would have expected that?

The assault on the Soul King symbolizes how people are systematically replacing God, with Jesus. The right Hand symbolizes Lucifer/Satan. The right hand taking over symbolizes Satanism going Head-to-Head with Christianity. The Shinigami are losing to the Quincy because in the real world, People can't see Angels, but they can see priests, so priests have better influence over the world and it's religions.
It seems the manga is implying that Jesus and the priests of the world are killed because they would otherwise rid the world completely of evil and upset the balance; ether that or that they are actually terrorists. Yhwach's beef with the Soul King is for allowing it.
So, why the cultural refs?
In World War 2, Germany and Japan were on the same side and Mexico was on the opposing side. Quincy and Shinigami were once on the same side, too. The hollows were always a menace to the Shinigami and Quincy. The Shinigami and the Quincy agreed on that about Hollows, but could not agree on how to deal with them.
Sound familiar?

The priests set out to destroy 'evil', the Angels set out to put 'evil' in it's place. Terrorists will kill people they deem evil, exorcists will try to save people they deem evil. Which brings us to Characters, properties, and their ultimate roles in the symbolism:
Sounds nice.

Uryuu - Scientist; dispelling belief in Angels and demons, but leaning more and more towards Christianity over time
Arrancar - Technology; Originally intended as a distraction, but can be used for good as well
Ichigo - United States; Can embrace any faith or culture, but is ultimately seeking a higher purpose, more power, and to police the world.
That makes this panel more enjoyable.
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Hollowfication - Resolve; Doing what is necessary even if it is deemed evil
Atheist endeavors.

Hueco Mundo - Hell
Already exists
-Chapter 666 is near so we might be seeing Hell again. :cool:

Maybe Limbo/Purgatory? Grimjow's backstory showed how they all begin as fodder hollows.
Grimmjoww said:
Those ones go on to consume other Gillan and continue their evolution.
- - -
If they do not continue eating Hollows of the same type, Adjucha will degenerate back to Gillan.
- - -


Now you should see why Ywach keeps asking Ichigo "Why are you resisting me?". Why he scolds Ichigo for trying to protect everything. Also, why Ichigo's attempt to save the Soul King made things worse, which is because, in real life, people's attempts to assist "God" only make things worse. From the pretentious representations, to the very altering of the Bible, People are undermining themselves and their own efforts. Bleach is a story about religious warfare and world domination. Just sayin'
That was a gr8 literary analysis.

To add to this, would you agree with Aizen being the Ultimate Atheist who represents absolute logic and reasoning?

Why/how?
Gin tells Aizen that he can't destroy the Kotetsu because it's made out of "truth" and not Reiatsu.
Aizen destroys it anyways:
Aizen said:
Truth only exists for people who cling unto it.
Truth=Belief in God

-Asking Urahara about the Soul King's purpose:
Aizen said:
Why do you still obey that thing?
Urahara said:
I see..So you've seen him.
- - -
Aizen said:
The victor must speak not of how the world is, but how it should be.

Even at this point, we still don't know what Aizen saw/realized that made him go against the Soul King.

You also mentioned:
Reishi - Influence over mankind
Zanpakto - Notariety; The ability to command influence starts here
Shikai - Popularity; indirect influence
Bankai - Fame; influence obtained from many, over many
Aizen(atheism) has only used his Shikai( ) yet has had major influence on every character and plot(modern notoriety).

What if his Shikai (popularity) rose to Bankai(fame)?

The Almighty Juha is no exception to its influence:

- - - - - - - - -


Aizen's zanpaktou integrated with him:
Aizen said:
My zanpaktou is disappearing...
What does this represent?
A transition from barbaric eras.
His monologues and Reishi(influence) are the only weapons necessary in this fight of ideologies.
Aizen said:
Nothing good will come from flailing your swords about.
When you can simply use your Reiatsu...and crush them all in one fell swoop.
No longer is power determined by their kill count/brute force (Kennpachis).

Aizen said:
No, it's likely that you and I have a different definition of what "power" even means.
- - - -

Their attempts to censor Aizen in vain.

The Central 46 represent traditionalism.
They vehemently fear Aizen's influence.

Aizen said:
Honestly, they really thought I would actually go so far as to kill you to get my hands on the key to the Muken gates.
Wow...That lot at the Central 46.

Rustled Central 46 said:
Cover his eye and bind his mouth at once!!!!
Increase his sentence to over 20,000 years!!

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Deicide definition said:
The killing of a god.

Aizen said:
Humans, imitations of apes.
Gods, imitations of humans.
The greatest illusion is the belief in god. Kyouka Suigetsu! BANKAI!! !̿̅͋̌͋͛͒͂̔̂̍̔̋̃̋̀̚͞͏̣̜̠̦͚̦͕̠̬̱!̏ͨ͗ͣ͐͑̈́͊́̚͏̩̳͇̳̯̭͙͉͇͈̝̀ͅͅ!̴̧̭̝͖̦̬̋ͤͨ͐̌ͬ̾̾̌̂̆̈́͂̆ͨ͛!̢̍͗ͬ̽̅̉ͪͦ̆̏̒̉̋ͣͤͭ̉ͦ͘͟͏͇̻̩̥̖̣͕̞̭̻!̷̡̺̼̺͍͔̜͇̜͖̯͓͈͚̰ͩ̋͒̏̐ͪ̈ͧͪͣ͐̉̏ͮ͂ͬ̕


That Aizen.
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Congrats on the effort but Bleach has been proven to be an aesthetically pleasing and shallow series many a time. Might look into in more detail someday.

It's the Evangelion situation of 'it looks cool so I put it in'. Thing is Evangelion actually dealt with interesting themes.
 
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Re: aching new Heights beyond the Precipice

Kubo's use of Spanish falls more under the The way he misspells words and misuses grammar makes it funnier to read.
Examples including: "Privaron Espada," "Deja Chocolate Aqui," and "Exacta!"

- - - - -


I don't think their Japanese affiliation matters much in this case.


I like this analogy. Would the Spanish Inquisition be like the Arrancars/Espada taking back their territory? Who would have expected that?


Sounds nice.




That makes this panel more enjoyable.
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Atheist endeavors.


Already exists
-Chapter 666 is near so we might be seeing Hell again. :cool:

Maybe Limbo/Purgatory? Grimjow's backstory showed how they all begin as fodder hollows.
- - -




That was a gr8 literary analysis.

To add to this, would you agree with Aizen being the Ultimate Atheist who represents absolute logic and reasoning?

Why/how?
Gin tells Aizen that he can't destroy the Kotetsu because it's made out of "truth" and not Reiatsu.
Aizen destroys it anyways:

Truth=Belief in God

-Asking Urahara about the Soul King's purpose:
- - -

Even at this point, we still don't know what Aizen saw/realized that made him go against the Soul King.

You also mentioned:


Aizen(atheism) has only used his Shikai( ) yet has had major influence on every character and plot(modern notoriety).

What if his Shikai (popularity) rose to Bankai(fame)?

The Almighty Juha is no exception to its influence:

- - - - - - - - -


Aizen's zanpaktou integrated with him:


What does this represent?
A transition from barbaric eras.
His monologues and Reishi(influence) are the only weapons necessary in this fight of ideologies.

No longer is power determined by their kill count/brute force (Kennpachis).


- - - -

Their attempts to censor Aizen in vain.

The Central 46 represent traditionalism.
They vehemently fear Aizen's influence.






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The greatest illusion is the belief in god. Kyouka Suigetsu! BANKAI!! !̿̅͋̌͋͛͒͂̔̂̍̔̋̃̋̀̚͞͏̣̜̠̦͚̦͕̠̬̱!̏ͨ͗ͣ͐͑̈́͊́̚͏̩̳͇̳̯̭͙͉͇͈̝̀ͅͅ!̴̧̭̝͖̦̬̋ͤͨ͐̌ͬ̾̾̌̂̆̈́͂̆ͨ͛!̢̍͗ͬ̽̅̉ͪͦ̆̏̒̉̋ͣͤͭ̉ͦ͘͟͏͇̻̩̥̖̣͕̞̭̻!̷̡̺̼̺͍͔̜͇̜͖̯͓͈͚̰ͩ̋͒̏̐ͪ̈ͧͪͣ͐̉̏ͮ͂ͬ̕


That Aizen.
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What an expansion on Aizen. I'd dare say that Aizen may be the direct representation of Antitheism or even the Anti-Christ. Great work.

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Re: aching new Heights beyond the Precipice

Kubo's use of Spanish falls more under the The way he misspells words and misuses grammar makes it funnier to read.
Examples including: "Privaron Espada," "Deja Chocolate Aqui," and "Exacta!"

- - - - -


I don't think their Japanese affiliation matters much in this case.


I like this analogy. Would the Spanish Inquisition be like the Arrancars/Espada taking back their territory? Who would have expected that?


Sounds nice.




That makes this panel more enjoyable.
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Atheist endeavors.


Already exists
-Chapter 666 is near so we might be seeing Hell again. :cool:

Maybe Limbo/Purgatory? Grimjow's backstory showed how they all begin as fodder hollows.
- - -




That was a gr8 literary analysis.

To add to this, would you agree with Aizen being the Ultimate Atheist who represents absolute logic and reasoning?

Why/how?
Gin tells Aizen that he can't destroy the Kotetsu because it's made out of "truth" and not Reiatsu.
Aizen destroys it anyways:

Truth=Belief in God

-Asking Urahara about the Soul King's purpose:
- - -

Even at this point, we still don't know what Aizen saw/realized that made him go against the Soul King.

You also mentioned:


Aizen(atheism) has only used his Shikai( ) yet has had major influence on every character and plot(modern notoriety).

What if his Shikai (popularity) rose to Bankai(fame)?

The Almighty Juha is no exception to its influence:

- - - - - - - - -


Aizen's zanpaktou integrated with him:


What does this represent?
A transition from barbaric eras.
His monologues and Reishi(influence) are the only weapons necessary in this fight of ideologies.

No longer is power determined by their kill count/brute force (Kennpachis).


- - - -

Their attempts to censor Aizen in vain.

The Central 46 represent traditionalism.
They vehemently fear Aizen's influence.






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The greatest illusion is the belief in god. Kyouka Suigetsu! BANKAI!! !̿̅͋̌͋͛͒͂̔̂̍̔̋̃̋̀̚͞͏̣̜̠̦͚̦͕̠̬̱!̏ͨ͗ͣ͐͑̈́͊́̚͏̩̳͇̳̯̭͙͉͇͈̝̀ͅͅ!̴̧̭̝͖̦̬̋ͤͨ͐̌ͬ̾̾̌̂̆̈́͂̆ͨ͛!̢̍͗ͬ̽̅̉ͪͦ̆̏̒̉̋ͣͤͭ̉ͦ͘͟͏͇̻̩̥̖̣͕̞̭̻!̷̡̺̼̺͍͔̜͇̜͖̯͓͈͚̰ͩ̋͒̏̐ͪ̈ͧͪͣ͐̉̏ͮ͂ͬ̕


That Aizen.
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What an expansion on Aizen. I'd dare say that Aizen may be the direct representation of Antitheism or even the Anti-Christ. Great work.

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You don't need to be a Christian to know that the "Jesus replacing God" thong is false :lmao: but this was a well done thread. Also ypu may want to elaborate on the left arm of the soul king since there areboth right and left arms of the soul king. Also yhwach like the soul king has a "right hand" (hashwalth) and uryuay be the left hand.
 

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Nice job.Naruto is also pretty religious. Full of Freemason and anti-islam things :))))). I think we can help each other about making such a thread about naruto. :D
 

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Sorry but anyone that takes you seriously has the same problem you have.


Arrancar - Technology; Originally intended as a distraction, but can be used for good as well
Xcution - Pagans; Seeking power from within and around with no affiliation towards Angels, nor Demons.
Gotei 13 - Prophets; Miracle workers that deliver a divine message
Schutzstaffel - Disciples
Ichigo - United States; Can embrace any faith or culture, but is ultimately seeking a higher purpose, more power, and to police the world.
spend your time on more useful things
 
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Nice job.Naruto is also pretty religious. Full of Freemason and anti-islam things :))))). I think we can help each other about making such a thread about naruto. :D
Inbox me, I'm game.

Sorry but anyone that takes you seriously has the same problem you have.




spend your time on more useful things
Oh, you mean like threadbashing. Sure. I'll consider that...

:bye:
 
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