[Question] Bleach 530 ichigo's hollow

[Dark king rayleigh]

The hollow we say in the end if the manga was that ichigo's hollow
It really looked like it

 

[TheHokage]

To uncertain to tell at this stage but it's got some connection to Ichigo.

 

[xjimbox]

It does look like it.

 

[zamki]

Looks really similarU_U

 

[The Western Wheel]

Maybe now we get the history of Zangetsu... that he made more people hollow like that or something...

 

[pandu]

Yup.I think he's the one

 

[minatoisagod]

look so similar finally we can get a confirmed vastro lorde. Maybe masaki absorbed this thing when she killed hence why its a part of ichigo soul.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Its his mom. I already talked about this.

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but seriously. take a gander.

 

[adventnova]

I think its Kaien's Hollow. Ishinn's brother that Rukia had -feelings- for. i think its his soul which, as others said the hollow got into Masaki someone, and rebirthed as Ichigo. Which could be why Ichigo resembles Kaien so much. (i think i spelled Ishinn's brothers name wrong, but we should know who im talking about)

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

I think its Kaien's Hollow. Ishinn's brother that Rukia had -feelings- for. i think its his soul which, as others said the hollow got into Masaki someone, and rebirthed as Ichigo. Which could be why Ichigo resembles Kaien so much. (i think i spelled Ishinn's brothers name wrong, but we should know who im talking about)

cant be. We know that Aizen was experimenting with hollowfication. We also know that the hollows were disapearing completely from the real world. This is why the captain of the research thing had to kill a lot of souls from the soul society, to balence the worlds again. We know that the cause of the hollows dieing was quincies. That means that azien was experimenting on quincies. What we see here, is a hollowed quincy. Who? we do not know.

I speculate that it is Masaki Kurusaki based on:
-the resemblance of the two hollows,
-that there was no way that a beginner quincy could have defeated or even scared off a lvl 2 transformation hollow when uryu ishida failed miserably when he fought ulqiora,
-and what aizen said about ichigo's development.
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-some kind of hollow dna would have been transfered to ichigo upon birth~hollow tensa zangetsu
-aizen would have made masaki into a 1/2 hollow 1/2 quincy. He was expecting ichigo to be able to use shinigami powers, hollow powers, and quincy powers, which ichigo could not do at that time.

 

[adventnova]

Good point and thank ,you for correcting me. i guess i kind of blanked out the part of the Quincy's being experimented on. This makes more sense.

Also i am really still stuck on how Ichigo looks exactly like Kaien, with except of hair color. I think Kaien has a much bigger part than whats been portrayed so far.

I guess since the same Hollow Type 3 mask --(it is type 3 since, you have the mask, then you have ichigo training with the vizards and transforming, then you have the nearly complete full hollowified Arancar Ichigo which would be type 3. sorry just clarifying that as someone was saying this one we saw was type 2, which in a since could be true because its still quite undeveloped looking)--, and minus the markings it reminded me of when Rukia saw Ichigo for the first time and the second time when she reaffirmed the recognition but couldnt point out why... That is how i am seeing the resemblance of this flash back to Ichigo's near complete Hollow.

Maybe im hoping for some big mind blower story character-identity twist...

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

Good point and thank ,you for correcting me. i guess i kind of blanked out the part of the Quincy's being experimented on. This makes more sense.

Also i am really still stuck on how Ichigo looks exactly like Kaien, with except of hair color. I think Kaien has a much bigger part than whats been portrayed so far.

I guess since the same Hollow Type 3 mask --(it is type 3 since, you have the mask, then you have ichigo training with the vizards and transforming, then you have the nearly complete full hollowified Arancar Ichigo which would be type 3. sorry just clarifying that as someone was saying this one we saw was type 2, which in a since could be true because its still quite undeveloped looking)--, and minus the markings it reminded me of when Rukia saw Ichigo for the first time and the second time when she reaffirmed the recognition but couldnt point out why... That is how i am seeing the resemblance of this flash back to Ichigo's near complete Hollow.

Maybe im hoping for some big mind blower story character-identity twist...

Yeah, im hoping for that too. I think Kaien was made to look like ichigo just to hint at ichigo’s relation to the shiba clan. I don’t think that he will become a big part of the story. I want him to, I really like his character and want to see more of him. I just don’t see it happening.
Thanks for the clarification on the hollow type. I was under the impression that the mask was stage 1, the full body take over was stage 2, and when the stage 2 gets bigger and grows a tail and stuff, that’s stage 3. But I have no idea about that. So don’t quote me on it lol. If you can like, explain it in more detail that would be great cuz I didn’t really get that.

 

[adventnova]

The stages all vary depending on who you talk to and where you get your sources from. Even the Fan Base encyclopedia sometimes has some detail wrong.

My opinion of Ichigo's Hollow stage goes like so

Stage 1 - He gets his Hollow Mask - over time gets its stripes and takes over Ichigo when he gets near death. no dramatic change.
Stage 2 - When he trains with the Vizard and gets knocked out, his Hollow Takes over his Body and Transforms into a Untamed Beast/Reptile
Stage 3 - The Hollow Take over is nearly full humanoid, nearly complete (Almost a Vasto Lorde Class Arancar - in strength -, except it still bares its full mask unlike the rest of the Arancar that lose most of it when accending).

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Also, i just realized something... When where Ichigo's sisters born and why were they not affected by this Hollows presence? If in fact what most of are speculating that Ichigo's mother Masaki was one of Aizen's Hollow Experiments... the Hollow should've been put into all 3 of them if its just like DNA and transferred genetically.

 

[Rikud0 Sennin]

The stages all vary depending on who you talk to and where you get your sources from. Even the Fan Base encyclopedia sometimes has some detail wrong.

My opinion of Ichigo's Hollow stage goes like so

Stage 1 - He gets his Hollow Mask - over time gets its stripes and takes over Ichigo when he gets near death. no dramatic change.
Stage 2 - When he trains with the Vizard and gets knocked out, his Hollow Takes over his Body and Transforms into a Untamed Beast/Reptile
Stage 3 - The Hollow Take over is nearly full humanoid, nearly complete (Almost a Vasto Lorde Class Arancar - in strength -, except it still bares its full mask unlike the rest of the Arancar that lose most of it when accending).

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Also, i just realized something... When where Ichigo's sisters born and why were they not affected by this Hollows presence? If in fact what most of are speculating that Ichigo's mother Masaki was one of Aizen's Hollow Experiments... the Hollow should've been put into all 3 of them if its just like DNA and transferred genetically.

yup. I think that is why they can see hollows in the first place.
They have the capability of using hollow powers.

 

[adventnova]

But not once have they shown the hint of a Hollow presence within them. His older sister has been able to see mostly silloettes of Hollows and feel them. i believe she has actually only seen 1 or 2 hollows herself once she came in direct contact with one before Aizen's invasion of Kurukura town. His little sister, can just barely sense the presence of a hollow much less a regular spirit. She can sense them and feels their power if its intense, much like most humans can if its overbearing but she cant ever differentiate it like her sister.

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slightly off topic - i keep thinking outside the box just a bit... or a lot. But for some reason this other thought/idea came into my head about Bleach's Character Story-line. When We saw the Soul King quite a few chapters back and now finally getting to the roots of Ichigo's true Lineage... one movie/book came up in my mind that this is so Reminiscent of... - Jim Henson's - The Dark Crystal. It made me speculate that what if all the current races we know of the Spirit world were once one and governed by the Soul King? In the Dark Crystal there was 2 beings that were once 1 superior being and their soul was this luminescent crystal that had a shard break off during some cataclysmic event. It then split the supreme beings and divided them into 2. essentially good and evil. There was a 3rd race who were pretty much scattered about and used as slaves, one of them who was he protagonist became the hero who had found the missing shard repaired the crystal and made the supreme beings whole again.

Except Bleach has 3 fighting races/cultures and the oblivious race of Humans. so what im getting at is eventually i think either Ichigo is going to make the Soul King whole again by sacrificing himself or his powers to heal it... or as originally projected A LONG TIME AGO by mostly everyone that he will become the new Soul King - which that last one reminds me of Level 5's PS2 game Rogue Galaxy.