[VS] Blackbeard vs Akainu

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Thing is...Akainu's magma no mi ain't doing shit to Blackbeard since Yami Yami...Only chance for Akainu is to take him with haki where that's just a big big advantage to BB since he can use both DF's and if BB got haki after timeskip...Akainu gets high diffed anyday.

That's what I hate with some fans...they think Blackbeard is ultra weak but that guy is a fuking yonko with 2 bullshiet DF's and if he got haki after timeskip then he is surely one of the strongest yonko out there.
You mean the way Ace, Sengoku and Magellan's projectiles never did shit to Teach and were just sucked in? Cuz yeah, I agree, I don't remember Teach ever beinh careless enough in battle to drop his guard and get hit with attacks.
 

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It can go either way because both are powerhouses.
But in my opinion
BB has advantage in a 1vs1 fight against akainu..
I just remembered something i dont know if it is in the manga or not because i watched marine ford in anime not in manga
BB challenged Both Sengoku(fleet admiral) and garp(the marine hero) to stop the destruction of Marineford if they can.....
This is enough for me to believe he is above akainu.because we all know BB is a type of guy that will run away or avoid unnecessary fights.BB to challenge the 2 greatest fighters that used to fight roger,shiki makes me believe that he is confident that he can beat those 2 in a battle.
 

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It can go either way because both are powerhouses.
But in my opinion
BB has advantage in a 1vs1 fight against akainu..
I just remembered something i dont know if it is in the manga or not because i watched marine ford in anime not in manga
BB challenged Both Sengoku(fleet admiral) and garp(the marine hero) to stop the destruction of Marineford if they can.....
This is enough for me to believe he is above akainu.because we all know BB is a type of guy that will run away or avoid unnecessary fights.BB to challenge the 2 greatest fighters that used to fight roger,shiki makes me believe that he is confident that he can beat those 2 in a battle.
By this logic, he's weaker cuz he ran away from Akainu.
 

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You mean the way Ace, Sengoku and Magellan's projectiles never did shit to Teach and were just sucked in? Cuz yeah, I agree, I don't remember Teach ever beinh careless enough in battle to drop his guard and get hit with attacks.
Okey he was careless once twice and that's it if we talk about battle overall,Akainu can't do shit.You think BB didn't get stronger? Jesus Christ BB is potentially the strongest yonko out there and you are telling me he wouldn't be able to defeat Akinu? Just come on...
 

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Okey he was careless once twice and that's it if we talk about battle overall,Akainu can't do shit.You think BB didn't get stronger? Jesus Christ BB is potentially the strongest yonko out there and you are telling me he wouldn't be able to defeat Akinu? Just come on...
You forget that Akainu's attacks can remove limbs if they hit right. He has one of the most OP abilities in the series that revolves around one-shots. You know who else has an OP fruit based on one-shots? Magellan, and when Teach got careless with him, it resulted in him being defeated right away, Yami Yami no Mi and all. The fruits don't work the same way, but it shows the weaknesses and shortcomings of Teach's usage of the Yami/battle prowess.

Why would Akainu be unable to do shit in an overall battle? He ravaged the battlefield of Marineford, rained meteors that could obliterate mountains, and rolled through dozens upon dozens of pirates. He's one of the strongest characters in the entire series and more than likely the second strongest atm.

No, Blackbeard is not the strongest Yonko. Kaido is, so that's not even close to an argument. Even if he were, that's not the end all be all as Akainu is also in the same level as the Yonko anyways.

You think BB got stronger but Akainu didn't? Just like I mentioned to Bogard, you have to remember that Teach is in his 40s and has been a pirate for decades. He isn't in the same growth boat as Luffy, Law, Zoro, Kid, and the others. He was already in the level they were trying to catch up to before the timeskip, the level Akainu is in as well. If Teach can get stronger while already being in that level, why can't Akainu? Not to mention that becoming stronger doesn't mean that Teach is as strong as Akainu currently.

Even if we were to say "What if Blackbeard got stronger though," that's not a real argument. We have no idea how much stronger he got, we have no way of quantifying it. Can he have gotten as strong as Akainu? Sure. It's just as easy to say that he hasn't. It's just as easy to say he's gotten a little bit stronger and Oda is waiting till the end of the series for him to really get powerful for the final battle. And the same thing can then be applied to Akainu; I can just easily say he's gotten much stronger as well and Teach hasn't caught up, and there's zero proof that he did or didn't. We can only go on what we have, and what we have is that Teach is weaker by portrayal and feats.
 

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You forget that Akainu's attacks can remove limbs if they hit right. He has one of the most OP abilities in the series that revolves around one-shots. You know who else has an OP fruit based on one-shots? Magellan, and when Teach got careless with him, it resulted in him being defeated right away, Yami Yami no Mi and all. The fruits don't work the same way, but it shows the weaknesses and shortcomings of Teach's usage of the Yami/battle prowess.

Why would Akainu be unable to do shit in an overall battle? He ravaged the battlefield of Marineford, rained meteors that could obliterate mountains, and rolled through dozens upon dozens of pirates. He's one of the strongest characters in the entire series and more than likely the second strongest atm.

No, Blackbeard is not the strongest Yonko. Kaido is, so that's not even close to an argument. Even if he were, that's not the end all be all as Akainu is also in the same level as the Yonko anyways.

You think BB got stronger but Akainu didn't? Just like I mentioned to Bogard, you have to remember that Teach is in his 40s and has been a pirate for decades. He isn't in the same growth boat as Luffy, Law, Zoro, Kid, and the others. He was already in the level they were trying to catch up to before the timeskip, the level Akainu is in as well. If Teach can get stronger while already being in that level, why can't Akainu? Not to mention that becoming stronger doesn't mean that Teach is as strong as Akainu currently.

Even if we were to say "What if Blackbeard got stronger though," that's not a real argument. We have no idea how much stronger he got, we have no way of quantifying it. Can he have gotten as strong as Akainu? Sure. It's just as easy to say that he hasn't. It's just as easy to say he's gotten a little bit stronger and Oda is waiting till the end of the series for him to really get powerful for the final battle. And the same thing can then be applied to Akainu; I can just easily say he's gotten much stronger as well and Teach hasn't caught up, and there's zero proof that he did or didn't. We can only go on what we have, and what we have is that Teach is weaker by portrayal and feats.
You are acting like Akainu is some kind of God who can't be defeated.Jesus Christ Blackheard became a Yonko for a reason idk why you all think he is an idiot or something...Akainu got ***** slapped by WB and nearly got one shoted.Akainu used his magma no mi all the time against WB.That's how he injured WB in the first place.No way in hell Blackbeard would be so careless to get one shoted against Akainu just what's wrong with you >_> Oda maintained such a bit portrayal for Blackbeard to make him lose so carelessly as you think...He bloody has Yami Yami and Gura Gura.One is a power to negate DF(apparently) and one has a strength to destroy the world.That "idiot" high diffs Akainu anyday.

There's a difference in how strong Akainu could get with his powers in 2 years and Blackbeard who got his second DF by the end of timeskip.

I'm honestly very curious in how will Luffy deal with Blackbeard later in the story.Since literally if Blackbeard gets his 3rd DF...Luffy will need some major power up by the end of the series.
 
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You are acting like Akainu is some kind of God who can't be defeated.
When did I say anything like this? I can just as easily say that you're underrating Akainu and overrating Teach.

Jesus Christ Blackheard became a Yonko for a reason idk why you all think he is an idiot or something...
And Akainu is an Admiral for a reason. They're the same level. Never did I see Teach wouldn't be able to hurt him or it'd be easy for Akainu, but Akainu simply has the better chance of winning.

Akainu got ***** slapped by WB and nearly got one shoted.
No he didn't. When WB was at his peak in the war, he and Akainu were fighting evenly before his health dropped and Akainu got the upper hand.

Akainu used his magma no mi all the time against WB.That's how he injured WB in the first place.
I'm sorry, was this supposed to mean something?

No way in hell Blackbeard would be so careless to get one shoted against Akainu just what's wrong with you >_>
Show me where I said Akainu will one-shot Teach.

Oda maintained such a bit portrayal for Blackbeard to make him lose so carelessly as you think...He bloody has Yami Yami and Gura Gura.One is a power to negate DF(apparently) and one has a strength to destroy the world.That "idiot" high diffs Akainu anyday.
"He has he yada-yada and the meh-meh"
Are these supposed to be arguments? With the Gura Gura no Mi and the Yami Yami no Mi, Teach said he still wasn't ready to fight Shanks and avoided battle with Akainu.

Whitebeard with the Gura Gura no Mi couldn't defeat Akainu, and he's had it for decades. The Yami Yami no Mi will only get you so far and has shown to easily backfire on Teach on several occasions.

There's a difference in how strong Akainu could get with his powers in 2 years and Blackbeard who got his second DF by the end of timeskip.
And what's stopping me from saying that the difference leans in Akainu's favor? You got proof that it leans in Teach's favor instead?
 

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When did I say anything like this? I can just as easily say that you're underrating Akainu and overrating Teach
How am I underrating Akinu? I've seen what Whitebeard did to Akainu with Gura Gura and BB could easily do the same hence BB even has Yami Yami so that's alone better than what WB did to him.


And Akainu is an Admiral for a reason. They're the same level. Never did I see Teach wouldn't be able to hurt him or it'd be easy for Akainu, but Akainu simply has the better chance of winning.
He just doesn't have better chance...I literally don't see why would he have better chances.


No he didn't. When WB was at his peak in the war, he and Akainu were fighting evenly before his health dropped and Akainu got the upper hand.
Come on with a hole in his chest he ***** slapped Akainu and did big dmg to him >_>


I'm sorry, was this supposed to mean something?
Of course LOL! He wouldn't have pierced WB with his haki like he did with Magma no mi.Difference since BB can easily Yami Yami absorb it...That's a huge difference.


Show me where I said Akainu will one-shot Teach.
When you were saying BB is careless and Akainu powers are maintained on one shooting.That what you were implying with that BS..."Oh BB is careless and Akinu would take that and one shot him." "He has one of the most OP abilities in the series that revolves around one-shots."


"He has he yada-yada and the meh-meh"
Are these supposed to be arguments? With the Gura Gura no Mi and the Yami Yami no Mi, Teach said he still wasn't ready to fight Shanks and avoided battle with Akainu.
AT THAT POINT take that in mind,2 years is a big difference in how strong BB could have got.BIG BIG difference.

Whitebeard with the Gura Gura no Mi couldn't defeat Akainu, and he's had it for decades. The Yami Yami no Mi will only get you so far and has shown to easily backfire on Teach on several occasions.
Again...difference.BB has both.One which negates his Magma powers....and one which could do simillar dmg to Akainu like WB did.



And what's stopping me from saying that the difference leans in Akainu's favor? You got proof that it leans in Teach's favor instead?
'Cause Akainu can't do much learning with his magma magma like BB can with Yami Yami and Gura Gura.BB can combine both and maybe invent new powers...
 
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Wait, someone said Akainu isn't a powerhouse?

There is a difference b/w Akainu not being a power house and him not being as much of a powerhouse as BB. The later is what I said, feel free to call me when you have panels of him shaking islands with his casual moves.:yeah:


Someone needs to remember that it took all 3 admirals to block one of full powered attacks from Whitebeard. ;)



they are arguing base on what they want one piece to be and that is not the way things work. we need facts to prove that blackbeard is stronger than akainu. i gave them my reason blackbeard fled from akainu because he considered him someone powerful enough to run away from.

If you seriously think he fled because he's scared of him then the one who doesn't understand how things work in manga would be you mate. Even if what you said was true, BB improved a lot over past two years unlike Akainu who already reached his prime. So, you can't really use to support your stance now.



By this logic, he's weaker cuz he ran away from Akainu.

Akainu became a hopeless statue when one his BB's fellow Yonko stood in his way. So, I guess BB is above him since he should be ~ Shanks according to manga.:yeah:
 
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How am I underrating Akinu? I've seen what Whitebeard did to Akainu with Gura Gura and BB could easily do the same hence BB even has Yami Yami so that's alone better than what WB did to him.
What WB did? WB hit him with a sneak attack and then a direct Quake, both being the strongest we've ever seen, and Akaunu was able to come back and fight the likes of WB's commanders and dozens of pirates with absolutely no problem. Unless Teach in 2 years surpassed WB's decades-long usage of Gura Gura exponentially, he isn't doing much better.

He just doesn't have better chance...I literally don't see why would he have better chances.
Because Teach is an incredibly reckless fighter, who often allows himself to be struck by enemy techniques and relying on sheer stamina to continue, relying on luck to survive direct hits such as these, as seen when he let Sengoku's attack hit him, when he let several of Ace's attacks hit him, and when he let Magellan's attacks hit him. As seen with Magellan's attack, attacks that are centered around one-shots are very detrimental to Teach due to the nature of his fruit absorbing the damage. Teach isn't invulnerable, and taking more than a few of these, especially when they could remove limbs, is gonna go a long way.

On the other side, Teach has the Yami Yami no Mi, Gura Gura no Mi, and his physical strength. Teach doesn't have the physical strength to match Akainu's, seen with how they were able to handle WB's bisento(Akainu held it down with one leg, Teach was helpless to it coming for his chest). The Yami lacks offense, and requires him to pull Akainu in(remember what happened with Ace and his spears? Now replace that with meteors). Akainu has shown to be able to take the strongest hits the Gura can give, and continue fighting just as good as before.

Teach has no edge over Akainu, while Akainu has the edge in physical strength, experience, resiliency, and being able to deal with the others' fruit.
Come on with a hole in his chest he ***** slapped Akainu and did big dmg to him >_>
***** slapped? By sneaking up on him? I guess Caesar ***** slapped Luffy in their first fight. The Scotch brothers ***** slapped Zoro and Sanji by shooting them with bombs from the shadows in a sneak attack.

Did big damage? Damn, the WB pirates must be weak as **** since Akainu, after being hit with this big damage, was able to roll through them without being injured at all. Amazing how far WB got with a crew like this, since dozens of them and his strongest commanders couldn't stop the guy who got hit with this HUGE damage.

Of course LOL! He wouldn't have pierced WB with his haki like he did with Magma no mi.Difference since BB can easily Yami Yami absorb it...That's a huge difference.
Who cares if Akainu can't pierce WB with his Haki? He's shown to be able to achieve it with the Magu Magu no Mi. It doesn't matter how he does it, but how he can.

And yeah, Teach can absorb Akainu's magma attacks with the Yami Yami no Mi, but he can't absorb them all. And it only takes a few of Akainu's top hits to cripple you.

When you were saying BB is careless and Akainu powers are maintained on one shooting.That what you were implying with that BS..."Oh BB is careless and Akinu would take that and one shot him." "He has one of the most OP abilities in the series that revolves around one-shots."
And he does. Akainu's attacks and the way he uses his fruit revolves around one-shots. As in, that's his aim with each attack. He doesn't pull punches and all of his attacks are delivered with the intention to either straight up kill you or severely cripple you. I never said he'd accomplish one-shotting Akainu, but his fruit revolves around trying to do so. Fruits like that are the worst kind for Blackbeard because Akainu doesn't fight to slowly tear you down, he fights to kill you as soon as possible with as much force in each blow as possible.

AT THAT POINT take that in mind,2 years is a big difference in how strong BB could have got.BIG BIG difference.
And it's not for Akainu? Why is 2 years a lot of time for BB to get stronger, but not for Akainu?

Again...difference.BB has both.One which negates his Magma powers....and one which could do simillar dmg to Akainu like WB did.
Covered the damage from Gura thing already.

Teach has to get in close and touch Akainu in order to cancel his powers. Akainu can easily keep him back by pouring tons of Magma out of his body. Teach tries to pull him in from a distance, and Akainu throws magma blasts three times his size like Ace threw spears.

'Cause Akainu can't do much learning with his magma magma like BB can with Yami Yami and Gura Gura.BB can combine both and maybe invent new powers...
Lol what? Akainu can't develop new techniques? Akainu can't get physically faster, stronger, can't build more endurance? He can't increase the power of his existing Magu techniques?
 

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What WB did? WB hit him with a sneak attack and then a direct Quake, both being the strongest we've ever seen, and Akaunu was able to come back and fight the likes of WB's commanders and dozens of pirates with absolutely no problem. Unless Teach in 2 years surpassed WB's decades-long usage of Gura Gura exponentially, he isn't doing much better.


Because Teach is an incredibly reckless fighter, who often allows himself to be struck by enemy techniques and relying on sheer stamina to continue, relying on luck to survive direct hits such as these, as seen when he let Sengoku's attack hit him, when he let several of Ace's attacks hit him, and when he let Magellan's attacks hit him. As seen with Magellan's attack, attacks that are centered around one-shots are very detrimental to Teach due to the nature of his fruit absorbing the damage. Teach isn't invulnerable, and taking more than a few of these, especially when they could remove limbs, is gonna go a long way.

On the other side, Teach has the Yami Yami no Mi, Gura Gura no Mi, and his physical strength. Teach doesn't have the physical strength to match Akainu's, seen with how they were able to handle WB's bisento(Akainu held it down with one leg, Teach was helpless to it coming for his chest). The Yami lacks offense, and requires him to pull Akainu in(remember what happened with Ace and his spears? Now replace that with meteors). Akainu has shown to be able to take the strongest hits the Gura can give, and continue fighting just as good as before.

Teach has no edge over Akainu, while Akainu has the edge in physical strength, experience, resiliency, and being able to deal with the others' fruit.

***** slapped? By sneaking up on him? I guess Caesar ***** slapped Luffy in their first fight. The Scotch brothers ***** slapped Zoro and Sanji by shooting them with bombs from the shadows in a sneak attack.

Did big damage? Damn, the WB pirates must be weak as **** since Akainu, after being hit with this big damage, was able to roll through them without being injured at all. Amazing how far WB got with a crew like this, since dozens of them and his strongest commanders couldn't stop the guy who got hit with this HUGE damage.


Who cares if Akainu can't pierce WB with his Haki? He's shown to be able to achieve it with the Magu Magu no Mi. It doesn't matter how he does it, but how he can.

And yeah, Teach can absorb Akainu's magma attacks with the Yami Yami no Mi, but he can't absorb them all. And it only takes a few of Akainu's top hits to cripple you.


And he does. Akainu's attacks and the way he uses his fruit revolves around one-shots. As in, that's his aim with each attack. He doesn't pull punches and all of his attacks are delivered with the intention to either straight up kill you or severely cripple you. I never said he'd accomplish one-shotting Akainu, but his fruit revolves around trying to do so. Fruits like that are the worst kind for Blackbeard because Akainu doesn't fight to slowly tear you down, he fights to kill you as soon as possible with as much force in each blow as possible.



And it's not for Akainu? Why is 2 years a lot of time for BB to get stronger, but not for Akainu?


Covered the damage from Gura thing already.

Teach has to get in close and touch Akainu in order to cancel his powers. Akainu can easily keep him back by pouring tons of Magma out of his body. Teach tries to pull him in from a distance, and Akainu throws magma blasts three times his size like Ace threw spears.


Lol what? Akainu can't develop new techniques? Akainu can't get physically faster, stronger, can't build more endurance? He can't increase the power of his existing Magu techniques?
I won't even bother replying since you obviously take BB as an idiot and rate Gura Gura as low DF...since apparently by your logic...Akainu is a God and no one can defeat him since he obivously hurted WB...fuk Shanks...fuk BB...fuk Kaido...Akinu one shots them all.The fact that WB could neak behind Akainu means that Akainu is indeed careless as well...

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The fact that BB has two DF's makes him develop more in his terms of skills than Akainu...Since he can obviously develop his skills and powers more than Akainu can.

But not even surprised...Akainu was always overrated while BB was always underrated and taken as some idiot who is weak af...
 
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I won't even bother replying since you obviously take BB as an idiot
You know battle sense is just as crucial battle as your actual ability to fight right? Teach IS an idiot. And while this isn't gonna be enough to guarantee a victory for Akainu, it does mean that Teach often drops his guard and becomes reckless. His stamina makes up for this; he can afford to get with massive attacks because his body can withstand them. The problem with Akainu is his attacks don't just cause pain and crush your body, it literally cleaves away at your body. While Teach can afford to drop his guard against someone like Garp or even Luffy because he can withstand their crushing blows, being that reckless against someone who can remove your limbs is going to be more harmful.

If Teach drops his guard, and one of Akainu's strongest attack hits him in the leg, or his elbow, or square in his face, it's gonna be more harmful than if a normal blunt attack hits him in the same manner.

and rate Gura Gura as low DF.
I never said this. I said Akainu has shown he can take the strongest attacks of the Gura Gura no Mi, and continue to fight. So going "Teach has the Gura Gura no Mi" isn't an actual argument since Akainu has come out on top when faced with the Gura Gura before.

since apparently by your logic...Akainu is a God and no one can defeat him since he obivously hurted WB...fuk Shanks...fuk BB...fuk Kaido...Akinu one shots them all.The fact that WB could neak behind Akainu means that Akainu is indeed carleses as well...
I mean, with your reading comprehension skills, I'm not surprised you've completely gotten my argument wrong.

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Did this defeat Akainu? Did this weaken Akainu to the point that he couldn't fight as good as before?

The fact that BB has two DF's makes him develop more in his terms of skills than Akainu...Since he can obviously develop his skills and powers more than Akainu can.
Actually, wouldn't the fact that Teach has two DFs be detrimental to this? While Akainu has two years to spend on his sole fruit, Teach has to split that time between two fruits. He wouldn't be hit the full potential of both fruit as fast as someone who has one.
 

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You know battle sense is just as crucial battle as your actual ability to fight right? Teach IS an idiot. And while this isn't gonna be enough to guarantee a victory for Akainu, it does mean that Teach often drops his guard and becomes reckless. His stamina makes up for this; he can afford to get with massive attacks because his body can withstand them. The problem with Akainu is his attacks don't just cause pain and crush your body, it literally cleaves away at your body. While Teach can afford to drop his guard against someone like Garp or even Luffy because he can withstand their crushing blows, being that reckless against someone who can remove your limbs is going to be more harmful.

If Teach drops his guard, and one of Akainu's strongest attack hits him in the leg, or his elbow, or square in his face, it's gonna be more harmful than if a normal blunt attack hits him in the same manner.



I never said this. I said Akainu has shown he can take the strongest attacks of the Gura Gura no Mi, and continue to fight. So going "Teach has the Gura Gura no Mi" isn't an actual argument since Akainu has come out on top when faced with the Gura Gura before.


I mean, with your reading comprehension skills, I'm not surprised you've completely gotten my argument wrong.


Did this defeat Akainu? Did this weaken Akainu to the point that he couldn't fight as good as before?


Actually, wouldn't the fact that Teach has two DFs be detrimental to this? While Akainu has two years to spend on his sole fruit, Teach has to split that time between two fruits. He wouldn't be hit the full potential of both fruit as fast as someone who has one.
Luffy is an idiot too then...he never fights with tactics but still rekts his opponents.Luffy is as reckless as Teach is...

So you are counting on BB to drop guard for Akainu to defeat him...just lol...Come on you were indirectly saying Akainu would one shot Blackbeard....

And yes that attack clearly damaged Akainu 'cause he wasn't able to move anymore after it for some time...

And no.BB had Yami under control all he needs is learn more about Gura Gura and develop even stronger things with combining powers of 2 OP DF's...
 

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Luffy is an idiot too then...he never fights with tactics but still rekts his opponents.Luffy is as reckless as Teach is...
And he's been defeated many times, what's your point?

So you are counting on BB to drop guard for Akainu to defeat him...just lol..
I don't need to count on it, I know it's gonna happen. Teach is fully capable of fending off Akainu's attacks, and Akainu is capable of fending off Teach's. It's gonna come down to who creates an opening first, and who capitalizes on that opening first. And the answer is obviously gonna be Teach creating the opening first and Akainu capitalizing first. Just like with Whitebeard, except it'll be due to recklessness rather than fading health.

Come on you were indirectly saying Akainu would one shot Blackbeard....
No I wasn't.
And yes that attack clearly damaged Akainu 'cause he wasn't able to move anymore after it for some time...

And no.BB had Yami under control all he needs is learn more about Gura Gura and develop even stronger things with combining powers of 2 OP DF's...
Having it under control doesn't mean you've reached the full strength of the fruit. Luffy had the Gomu under control when he fought Crocodile, doesn't mean he had full strength with it.

And Akainu can get stronger in areas in more than just his fruit, like increasing his physical capabilities as well.
 

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some guys here are really underestimating both guys especially akainu... if blackbeard gave sengoku a hardtime pre-skip dont forget akainu did thesame to whitebeard... he inflicted most wounds on whitebeard during marineford war.
Let's not forget that Whitbeard was near death severely weakened, stabbed, and shot with multiple lasers before meeting to fight Akainu which he beat to an absolute pulp.
And LeBreezy already covered that BB>Akainu too.
 

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Second strongest? :lmao:


MF Whitebeard was leagues behind the strongest man he once was, Oda mate it clear via different characters that WB lost most of his power. Marines have no idea about his sickness or about him loosing most of his strength prior to MF war. And Garp noted that Yonko are on par with Whitebeard. When he said this, he was referring to the man who once stood at the top since he had no idea about Whitebeard's condition. All Akainu could accomplish is to stalemate MF WB who was already stabbed by Squardo and had to receive serious injuries to be able to put an end to a half dead WB. In short, there is noway Akainu is in the same level as the true strongest WB or the people who were stated to be on par with him.
 

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And he's been defeated many times, what's your point?


I don't need to count on it, I know it's gonna happen. Teach is fully capable of fending off Akainu's attacks, and Akainu is capable of fending off Teach's. It's gonna come down to who creates an opening first, and who capitalizes on that opening first. And the answer is obviously gonna be Teach creating the opening first and Akainu capitalizing first. Just like with Whitebeard, except it'll be due to recklessness rather than fading health.


No I wasn't.
And yes that attack clearly damaged Akainu 'cause he wasn't able to move anymore after it for some time...


Having it under control doesn't mean you've reached the full strength of the fruit. Luffy had the Gomu under control when he fought Crocodile, doesn't mean he had full strength with it.

And Akainu can get stronger in areas in more than just his fruit, like increasing his physical capabilities as well.
Luffy gets hurt...comes back...rekts.

Ace hurt BB,BB "came back"...rekts.

BB had the fruit undercontrol for enough power to defeat Ace.That will come naturally where he had Yami more undercontrol than Gura Gura.
 

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Luffy gets hurt...comes back...rekts.

Ace hurt BB,BB "came back"...rekts.
How does Teach come back from losing limbs in a situation like this

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BB had the fruit undercontrol for enough power to defeat Ace.That will come naturally where he had Yami more undercontrol than Gura Gura.
Who cares? Current Luffy could defeat Ace too, he's gonna rekt Akainu?
 

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By this logic, he's weaker cuz he ran away from Akainu.
What i meant to say was if he was so confident to challenge the legend pair of marines(sengoku & garp) and thinks he can beat those two in battle.He can beat akainu mid-diff.Because sengoku+garp>>akainu
 
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