[Discussion] Black Zetsu misconceptions

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I'm here to make corrections towards mistakes concerning black zetsu that are becoming common place.

Zetsu did not invent the shinobi system. People fought before Kaguya came and used chakra as a weapon which became ninjutsu after Hagoromo blessed them with his own chakra as well as his teachings. This part of the tablet is true as Hagoromo confirmed it. He also coaxed only the Uchiha and some of the senju, not the other nations or clans.

Zetsu did not invent the Uchiha's curse of hatred. He helped to sway it, but he did not create the sharingan that effects the Uchihas' emotions nor the conflict between Ashura and Indra or the complete one between Madara and Hashirama.

The Uchiha tablet was not all a lie. Kaguya is real, as is The Shinju, Hagoromo, his sons and the bijuus he created. Zetsu revealed all the info of what happened and all he erased as far as we know was Hagoromo's ninshuu teachings and even some of those appear to have been preserved based n Madara stating the sage tried to connect everyone's chakra to help them understand each other.
 
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Yes.............also Indora was already pissed of cuz he "lost" zo his brother. Then BZ had instigated him to do something stupid. He just showed him a way how he can get revenge. Indora could also do something without BZ.
Also BZ brought just the stone (hatred etc.) to roll....everything else was just natural course
 
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The only problem I have is how in the hell can BZ read the uchiha tablet?
 

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I have not seen anyone one who didn't (for the most part) understand this much. It is NB so... I wouldn't be surprised either.
 

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The only problem I have is how in the hell can BZ read the uchiha tablet?

I thought that myself, then realized it wasn't worth bringing up, I'm sure its some sort of Kish Grandfather law in effect. Being older than a clan or a language means you can read it.
 

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Ughhhh! Because BZ was created by Kaguya. BZ is her will. He's a part of hers. That's may be the reason why he can read the Uchiha Tablet. (I guess)

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Ughhhh! Because BZ was created by Kaguya. BZ is her will. He's a part of hers. That's may be the reason why he can read the Uchiha Tablet. (I guess)

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What has Kaguya to do with Hagoromos Doujutsu aka. Rinnengan ? She had just one Sharingan ( Hagoromo calped it so in his Flashback) also i have not seen a Doujutsu by BZ
 

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What has Kaguya to do with Hagoromos Doujutsu aka. Rinnengan ? She had just one Sharingan ( Hagoromo calped it so in his Flashback) also i have not seen a Doujutsu by BZ

Perhaps being her will he inherited something akin to the Byakugan, the "All seeing eye" could read everything? Lol Though Kaguya is said to have the Sharingan's power, so probably that? Dunno.
 

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The real scary part for me is not that he can read and write on the stone, but that he somehow knew who Indra and Ashura's transmigrants would be. :eek: This leads me to believe he's either Hagoromo's clone or Hamura himself. In one translation, he referred to himself as being her son who sealed her away. However, it also states he was created as she was sealed. I'm not sure. Both translations for the chapter are incredibly wacky all around lols.

I keep thinking Kaguya will lose her mind completely and he'll just take her over and turn either into Hamura or an anti-Hagoromo lols or possibly just use Madara's form.
 
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The real scary part for me is not that he can read and write on the stone, but that he somehow knew who Indra and Ashura's transmigrants would be. :eek: This leads me to believe he's either Hagoromo's clone or Hamura himself. In one translation, he referred to himself as being her son who sealed her away. However, it also states he was created as she was sealed. I'm not sure. Both translations for the chapter is incredibly wacky all around lols.

I keep thinking Kaguya will lose her mind completely and he'll just take her over and turn either into Hamura or an anti-Hagoromo lols or possibly just use Madara's form.

You should be able to conclude that BZ is her will considering she covered half of Naruto and Sasuke with it. Dunno about finding the reincarnations; maybe because it's her will he could sense them or some shit?
 

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You should be able to conclude that BZ is her will considering she covered half of Naruto and Sasuke with it. Dunno about finding the reincarnations; maybe because it's her will he could sense them or some shit?

So he says, but then again, we all believed he was Madara's will lols. Clearly they are separate beings and personalities. He doesn't say he's Kaguya, he says he's her child. He isn't enraged and unhinged like her, he's calm, intelligent and calculated.
 

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1) People did not have chakra before Hagoromo spread it/his.
2) And it also seems that Black Zetsu did start the "Uchiha's Curse of Hatred",
 

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1) People did not have chakra before Hagoromo spread it/his.

I didn't state they did. That was a compound sentence.

2) And it also seems that Black Zetsu did start the "Uchiha's Curse of Hatred",

Actually, it doesn't. It began when Hagoromo chose Ashura over Indra and when Indra lost to him. Furthermore, Madara and Hashirama antagonized each other as early as when they were kids and when Tobirama killed Izuna and subjugated the Uchiha. Tobirama and Hashirama never met Black Zetsu.
 

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Black Zetsu's main priority was to stirr up the incarnates.

The uchiha curse of hatred that happened to non-incarnates were none of Zetsu's business.
 

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The only problem I have is how in the hell can BZ read the uchiha tablet?
 
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