[Theory] Black Zetsu isn't Kaguya's son !!

[minamoto 🥈]

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-According to Hagoromo his Mother Kaguya had 2 sons : Hagoromo and Hamura..


-However black zetsu always refered to kaguya as his mother....


So what did black zetsu really mean when he said "kaguya my mother"?!!


first plz read this Manga panel well :

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-Black zetsu refered to kaguya as his mother but at the same times he refered to hagoromo and hamura as kaguya's sons AND NOT AS HIS BROTHERS !!.....Weird ? isnt it?.....



-now read well what Hagoromo said about what happend to his Mother when she ate the chakra fruit :

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-Kaguya was Originally a nice caring mother...but after she ate the chakra fruit she started becoming a feared Demon...


-i think that kaguya consumed the chakra fruit ,she later on become possessed by another evil being/Demon/spirit.........AND THAT EVIL DEMON IS THE REALL MOTHER OF BLACK ZETSU !!


-so when black zetsu says : "MY MOTHER"....he isn't exactly refering to Kaguya...but instead, he is refering to the Demon that is possessing her.......


-also i believe when black zetsu says "MY MOTHER" ...i dont think he meant "Mother" in it's strict meaning.....i think the meaning of "Mother" for black zetsu is that he is just a piece of that whole Demon that possessed Kaguya !!.

-that piece of Demon was born just when kaguya was about to get sealed with shibaku tensei ....that is the black Zetsu....


-im not sure if that Demon is the Juubi....it could be the rabbit deamon beast....


-i think kaguya's true looking after she become evil is her being fully encased by a dark matter ( the reall black zetsu emerging)

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[Hazo]

Maybe he was calling her 'mother', since she created him into existence...

 

[aimop95]

You're assuming a lot. She ate fruit that enabled her to end all wars. Literally end all of them. Like completely end them. That sort of power corrupts or inspires fear into it's subjects to the point that it wouldn't matter who was corrupted first (the holder of power or the ones fearing said power). So the only real "mother" is power. Not some other entity, just the fact that any being that has some shred of humanity within them is incapable of holding true, unyielding, power.

 

[minamoto 🥈]

note : correction : i meant kaguya was a nice caring woman..but not mother..cuz she become mother after she ate the chakra fruit

 

[Angelic.]

the fruit and chakra corrupted her.
she merged with the shinju.
then she made bz.
you think the shinju is the demon mother in this case? swirly was its seed... hes evil.

i feel like your stealing other peoples theories and dumbing them down..

 

[Ging]

Ohh man too much bullshit in a single thread.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

No. Kaguya created Black Zetsu, not Tobidara, or whatever you are saying.

 

[Slifer]

I have to give you right. This fits with the theory of the demo rabbit teth did! Kaguya beeing possesed by a greater evil which created bz and corrupted Kaguya.

 

[Waindo]

Pure assumption. And no. He is not her son, he is a manifestation of her will which she created upon her first sealing. U could call him a jutsu of sort.

 

[Slifer]

One point, which breaks the kishimoto logic/plot is the creation of BZ from Madara.

Lemme point it out : Madara wants to create HIS will into one Zetsu. So he knows which jutsu he needs to do so

for example : Madara wants to do katon fireball he formes the katon symbols outcome --> His Katon.

So why BZ is created ?

Its like forming katon style signs and outcome wather. Madara should have regocnized that BZ is not his will...

 

[Waindo]

BZ made him think he manifested it....The freaking gooey black supstance has controlled the history and development of the entire shinobi world, remember?

 

[Bansho Tenin]

lol kids got jokes

 

[Reboryushon]

I enjoyed the theory of other user about the rabbit demon but the Manga is now over.

Anyway, since this is a public thread i'm posting to debate.


I will start with Madara getting owned..

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Black Zetsu planned the whole thing..

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He is in fact Kaguya's child (her will), stated by himself. No over thinking here..

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The one that planned everything was BZ, it wasn't Madara, Madara double or Tobilolita..not even Hagoromo knew about BZ master plan..

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Oh.. and did I tell that this storyline that was built for 15 years is over ??

/thread ??

 

[Mr Hiru]

I==========> .


-According to Hagoromo his Mother Kaguya had 2 sons : Hagoromo and Hamura..


-However black zetsu always refered to kaguya as his mother....


So what did black zetsu really mean when he said "kaguya my mother"?!!


first plz read this Manga panel well :

You must be registered for see images

-Black zetsu refered to kaguya as his mother but at the same times he refered to hagoromo and hamura as kaguya's sons AND NOT AS HIS BROTHERS !!.....Weird ? isnt it?.....



-now read well what Hagoromo said about what happend to his Mother when she ate the chakra fruit :

You must be registered for see images

-Kaguya was Originally a nice caring mother...but after she ate the chakra fruit she started becoming a feared Demon...


-i think that kaguya consumed the chakra fruit ,she later on become possessed by another evil being/Demon/spirit.........AND THAT EVIL DEMON IS THE REALL MOTHER OF BLACK ZETSU !!


-so when black zetsu says : "MY MOTHER"....he isn't exactly refering to Kaguya...but instead, he is refering to the Demon that is possessing her.......


-also i believe when black zetsu says "MY MOTHER" ...i dont think he meant "Mother" in it's strict meaning.....i think the meaning of "Mother" for black zetsu is that he is just a piece of that whole Demon that possessed Kaguya !!.

-that piece of Demon was born just when kaguya was about to get sealed with shibaku tensei ....that is the black Zetsu....


-im not sure if that Demon is the Juubi....it could be the rabbit deamon beast....


-i think kaguya's true looking after she become evil is her being fully encased by a dark matter ( the reall black zetsu emerging)

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Black Zetsu was born from Kaguya just before her sealing, and never showed himself until he met Madara. Hagoromo never knew about this, so Hagoromo obviously would never treat him as a brother.

Common sense.

Also, BZ always treated them as traitors. Even in real life, people who betrays their mother are not considered brothers anymore by their siblings.

...now, there is a BUT that could help your theory... a plot hole, in fact.

Why didn't Hagoromo knew about BZ's wrongdoings, if Hagoromo can travel in time? Huh?

 

[Honord Sage]

Yes Kaguya had a 3rd son in Black Zetsu,question is did She any others? If yes would they make appearance in part3?

 

[Reboryushon]

Yes Kaguya had a 3rd son in Black Zetsu,question is did She any others? If yes would they make appearance in part3?

Part 3 is a mini-series regarding the children. This whole storyline finished here, quite sure of it. Just read the press releases and the official posts regarding «part 3».

We can't even call it part 3 to be honest..

 

[Rabbit Teth]

Where is Tobidara supposed to fit in? I'll have an expansion on the Demon and Kaguya ready shortly BTW. There's a lot you've missed out and I've got some new stuff gathered together to convince the doubters.

 

[Xāvî1]

WE know that BZetsu is kaguyas will!

 

[Darkboy85]

Of course BZ isn't kaguya's son. I am.

/thread.

 

[so12p]

Still chasing a tobidara angle. How sad for you. There may be some 12 step programs out there that could help.