Bijuu Mode Vs Perfect Susanoo

[Turson]

Moreover:

It was said in manga: Madara was able to tame Kyuubi only for short spans of time, so it must have been very taxing on him. Moreover, he most probably knew beforehand that Hashirama can supress Kyuubis chakra, yet he decided to use him, not his PS in their final fight. That also says something.

Meaning: Madara wouldnt even bother to tame Kyuubi if his PS was as powerful as some people thinks (posts like "PS wins for sure!). One thing is certain: it would be real mayhem for both sides.

 

[shelke]

But Bijuu Mode can own a mountain with swing of its tail. I dont see how thats inferior to PS.

Speed is also a factor here. A charged BD takes a hell lot of time. During Minato's tussle with Kurama, the damn thing was still charging while the young hokage summoned the taod and it sat on its mouth...the BD was STILL charging in its mouth. Now compare that to PS sword slash. That is my point.

 

[GiantShuriken]

By feats, I can't see how Perfect Susano'o can be considered the favourite here.

what feat does BM have, except for putting a small wound on Obito's head after a headbutt?

 

[OnPoint]

what feat does BM have, except for putting a small wound on Obito's head after a headbutt?

Did you skip chapters 571 & 572 (along with other scattered feats)?

 

[Turson]

Speed is also a factor here. A charged BD takes a hell lot of time.

Charging standard TBB doesnt take longer than making FRS (of course, stronger TBB = longer charging). Also, Im talking about simple tail swing here, which also shouldnt take longer than PS sword slash.

 

[Kages]

Idk maybe

 

[shelke]

Charging standard TBB doesnt take longer than making FRS (of course, stronger TBB = longer charging). Also, Im talking about simple tail swing here, which also shouldnt take longer than PS sword slash.

Look at that chapter again. You'll actually laugh at the amount of time that small sized charged TBB took. In fact, here ya go:

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- See the chakra gathering in its mouth? Not only was Minato able to deliver a dialogue, but he formed seals as well.

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- Chakra gathering, and Mintao had enough time to summon the toad to stop it:

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. If this isn't sluggish, then I don't know what is :

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and the TBB is still charging in its mouth.

You can easily compare that to the likes of sword slash. Now comes the tail swish. IF it was that powerful then Kurama would've simply used to it take out or subdue, or even disrupt the charge of those 5 Bijus. The fact that it opted for a BD for that kinda means that tail usage is no where near as effective as you are making it out to be.

 

[Turson]

Look at that chapter again. You'll actually laugh at the amount of time that small sized charged TBB took. In fact, here ya go:

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Like I said, charging of TBB usually doesnt take longer than making FRS.

IF it was that powerful then Kurama would've simply used to it take out or subdue, or even disrupt the charge of those 5 Bijus.

Actually, Naruto needed one tail per one tailed beast to subdue them. Didnt you read my post? Ive already proven how strong Kuramas tails are. Moreover, even at the beginning of the story he was described as the creature that could bust a mountain with a swing of its tail.

ts true that PS strenght is overwhelming, but same can be said about Kurama. Afterall, it was described as creature being able to destroy a mountain with a swing of its tail and its not just empty hype.

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-> Look at how huge Chibaku Tensei is, compare its size to the size of the mountains below.

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-> And this is what KM8 Naruto (it wasnt full power) was doing to it.

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-> Only one tail was needed to subdue a tailded beast. Thats how strong Kurama is.

 

[Darth Vulcanis]

I don't understand why people say that Bijuu Mode would lose to Perfect Susanoo. I mean I know Madara said that the Perfect Susanoo's power is comparable to a tailed beast, but does that make him stronger than a tailed beast? Sure he could easily slice through mountains with his swords but could that really top the destructive power of the bijuu dama?

In my opinion, I think that Kurama's Bijuu Mode cloak is stronger than the Perfect Susanoo. Just think about it if the Perfect Susanoo really is stronger than the Kyuubi than why did Madara resort to using the Kyuubi during his final fight against Hashirama instead using the Perfect Susanoo? Another thing, if the Perfect Susanoo really is stronger than the Kyuubi, Madara would've used that instead of the Wood Dragon, but that's my opinion.

What do you guys think? If all of this isn't enough evidence, then please give me some valid statements saying exactly how Bijuu Mode would not stand the Perfect Susanoo.

Top left panels seem like Madara used Kyuubi with PS in a failed attempt to gain an advantage over Hashirama

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From this, I think PS > BM

 

[The Work]

I'd say they're equal

 

[ninjabot]

Bijuu Mode at this moment lasts 8 minutes. Perfect Susanoo lasts aslong as Madara deems fit (blame it on his infinite chakra reserve). Also, Madara has performed a Bijuudama class destructive shockwave without even TOUCHING the mountains he destroyed. The wind from him simply swinging his sword caused the destruction.

Likewise, he claims it's "at the level of a bijuu", meaning it can hang against a bijuu in battle. So it's essentially like two bijuu's fighting eachother: one with a time limit. One without.

 

[shelke]

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Like I said, charging of TBB usually doesnt take longer than making FRS.
IF it was that powerful then Kurama would've simply used to it take out or subdue, or even disrupt the charge of those 5 Bijus.
Actually, Naruto needed one tail per one tailed beast to subdue them. Didnt you read my post? Ive already proven how strong Kuramas tails are. Moreover, even at the beginning of the story he was described as the creature that could bust a mountain with a swing of its tail.

That still doesn't take away the fact that it requires a certain time to charge, as those scans prove with Mintao. Regardless, forget what was said at the beginning of the story, a LOT has changed since then in regards to power ups.

 

[6DIVINExJUDGEMENT8]

I don't understand why people say that Bijuu Mode would lose to Perfect Susanoo. I mean I know Madara said that the Perfect Susanoo's power is comparable to a tailed beast, but does that make him stronger than a tailed beast? Sure he could easily slice through mountains with his swords but could that really top the destructive power of the bijuu dama?

In my opinion, I think that Kurama's Bijuu Mode cloak is stronger than the Perfect Susanoo. Just think about it if the Perfect Susanoo really is stronger than the Kyuubi than why did Madara resort to using the Kyuubi during his final fight against Hashirama instead using the Perfect Susanoo? Another thing, if the Perfect Susanoo really is stronger than the Kyuubi, Madara would've used that instead of the Wood Dragon, but that's my opinion.

What do you guys think? If all of this isn't enough evidence, then please give me some valid statements saying exactly how Bijuu Mode would not stand the Perfect Susanoo.

when he says comparable, he means that it can go either way. don't over estimate the tbb either. remember that Suigetsu survived one to the face against Bee and he had no protection that comes close to a Susanoo on him. it also hasn't been stated if Madara had the PS in his final fight with Hashirama so you can't really use that to help your opinion. remember that he's trying to capture the 9/8 tails, not kill them. so obviously he'd use something that suppresses their chakra, not something that he referred to as destruction incarnate.

 

[indistructableninetails]

Im reppin Bm Naruto all day

 

[Brooks]

PS=BM

 

[Sage of Nature Creation]

this is a vs thread, but biju mode beats PS.

 

[KuraiandAlbel]

I'd go with Perfect Susanoo......it probably has a better defense than bijuu mode

In a way this makes sense. Perhaps Perfect Susanoo has a better defense, while the Bijuu mode have higher offense. It would be interesting to see this face-off.

 

[~Supreme Itachi~]

PS>>>any pets
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totsuka>>>10 tails

 

[Lucci]

Madara stated that it was at the level of the bijuu. So in general perfect susano'o = bijuu in terms of power. However, Naruto's mastery of the 9 tails Bijuu mode is far greater and has exceeded the power of an ordinary bijuu. So I'd say Naruto's bijuu mode edge's it against Madara's perfect Susano'o.

As for those saying PS has more feats. Are you blind? All he did with it was slice a mountain and defeat 5 kages. We weren't even shown how the 5 kages were defeated, all we know is that PS was active when he kicked their butts.

Naruto took on 6 tailed beasts in bijuu mode, deflected all their bijuu dama's at one time and defeated all of them. This suggests Naruto's mastery of the BM mode is greater than/equal to that of 6 normal bijuu. Not to mention he's going toe to toe against Obito, Madara and the Juubi.

Naruto's BM feats > PS feats.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Kyuubi BJ > PS

PS> Gyukii BJ