Biggest @sspulls Kishi Pulled In the Manga

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The reason Minato having KCM was so ridiculous was because he never actually sealed the half of Kurama inside of him so he should not have been its jinchuriki. If simply using reaper death seal on it made it sealed inside of him after he was released out of the shinagami then Hiruzen should have been the jinchuriki of Hashirami, Tobirama, and Orochumaru's arms after he was released.

but he did
 

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Many feel that she was an asspull because kishi didn't know how naruto & sasuke would beat madara. He never stated this but it's a guess.

This, an all out battle with jj mads and then vote 2 would of been much better imo
 

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but he did

Actually no he did not he simply used the reaper death seal on it. If using the reaper death seal causes whatever you dragged into yourself to stay sealed even after you were released from the technique why were Hashirami and Tobirama not sealed inside of Hiruzen?
 

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This, an all out battle with jj mads and then vote 2 would of been much better imo
True but kaguya served more than just replacing madara. Her clan just extended the series more so the series can get more cash, goddamn these plot devices.
 

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Actually no he did not he simply used the reaper death seal on it. If using the reaper death seal causes whatever you dragged into yourself to stay sealed even after you were released from the technique why were Hashirami and Tobirama not sealed inside of Hiruzen?

No, he sealed half the kyuubi in him, and then used the death reaper seal on himself
 
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1. DMS Kakashi (the moment Kishi allowed fanfic to be canon)

2. KCM Minato (didn't have the body to use Kurama's chakra when he was alive)

3. Madara using Susanoo (Rinnegan doesn't have Sharingan powers)


All you need is unlock it once.
Rinnegan gives you the stamina to use it.

Even if he used Tenseigan he can use P.S becuase all you need is unlock it,what makes you think blind Madara used V3 Susanoo?
 

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No, he sealed half the kyuubi in him, and then used the death reaper seal on himself

Once again he used the exact same rds technique to pull the half of Kurama inside of himself that Hiruzen used to pull, Tobirama, Hashirama, and Orichimaru's arms inside of himself. There was no other seal. Go back to the actual chapter to check it out if you need to.
 

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Actually no he did not he simply used the reaper death seal on it. If using the reaper death seal causes whatever you dragged into yourself to stay sealed even after you were released from the technique why were Hashirami and Tobirama not sealed inside of Hiruzen?

because kurama did not get revived with edo tensei...hashirama and tobirama did
 

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Izanami. Kishi literally made it just to beat kabuto. A genjutsu that doesn't require eye contact and convetinetly applies to kabuto' backstory. Come on Kishi at least try to be creative here. I know itachi having it makes sense but it's just so blatantly dumb.

BZ being Kaguya will was really unnecessary and out of the blue.

Personally, I don't like how Kishi made itachi good cause it really makes me scratch my head when I look back at his decisions.

Of course dms kakashi. Kishi was on that afghan a1 kush mixed with meth when he did that.
 

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Izanami was important. It gave thousands Fodders one of the strongest Ocular Jutsu available.

Everything else was pretty dumb tho. Especially Obito's Ghost.

The problem with Izanami is how Kishi explained it's set up. Use a sharingan to record a series of movements (with the goal of creating a loop), casting the genjutsu that doesn't require the 5 senses being targeted, the person being trapped in the loop until they accept it. All for the purpose of punishing Uchiha who abuse Izanagi. Izanagi which permanently blinds an Uchiha in one of the sharingan they use to cast the genjutsu. Izanagi which only last a few seconds.


Obito and Danzo used Hashirama cells to amp the duration of Izanagi to 60 seconds. Not to mention Obito saying an Uchiha needs both a Sharingan and Senju chakra to make it work.

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How many Uchiha had access to Senju chakra during the Fedual period to abuse Izanagi the way Itachi describes it being abused?

Also, why would another Uchiha piss away one of their sharingan (permanently blinding themselves in one eye) to punish another Uchiha who is already half blind? Izanagi can only be safely be used once. Use it again and they'd be blind on a battle field.

Kishi should've come up with a better use/application for Izanami.
I don't consider Izanami an asspull if you know what kishi got the techniques from you would have known in was bound to happen.

Everybody knows Kishi based much of the Uchiha's MS jutsus after the Shinto Deities. Still, the mechanics of Izanami and the applications for it's inception are dumb.
 
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Once again he used the exact same rds technique to pull the half of Kurama inside of himself that Hiruzen used to pull, Tobirama, Hashirama, and Orichimaru's arms inside of himself. There was no other seal. Go back to the actual chapter to check it out if you need to.

Hey your absolutely right, good catch! He says he'll use the demon reaper seal to seal the kyuubi along with himself. Very nice +rep for you
 

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when kishi pull sinner/maniac like Itachi and Obito into role model like. He destroying our future youth to a pedo maniac or family killer and people still think it's right.
 

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Obito comin back was well thought out and was most likely planned since kakashi had the left sharingan and obito had the right
 

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when kishi pull sinner/maniac like Itachi and Obito into role model like. He destroying our future youth to a pedo maniac or family killer and people still think it's right.

that itachi situation was wayyyy more than just black and white...either leave them be to destroy the village or kill them all for the rest of the village...kill 1 to save 1000 is the motto of kiritsugu emiya (best anime character ever) and itachi reminded me so much of that analogy in that situation
 

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that itachi situation was wayyyy more than just black and white...either leave them be to destroy the village or kill them all for the rest of the village...kill 1 to save 1000 is the motto of kiritsugu emiya (best anime character ever) and itachi reminded me so much of that analogy in that situation

Itachi action is still unforgivable at least we know obito is the one broke the kyubi not the uchiha. Itachi is wrong in many way he kill his own parent and entire clan still incomparable sin. Just in real life not just kill your parent but your entire relatives and connection because of slander. It's BS the most bullshit redemption i ever encounter in manga history.
 

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All you need is unlock it once.
Rinnegan gives you the stamina to use it.

Even if he used Tenseigan he can use P.S becuase all you need is unlock it,what makes you think blind Madara used V3 Susanoo?

That wasn't the rule before, Susanoo was considered a Sharingan ability and when you unlock the chakra for Rinnegan you lose the chakra that gives Sharingan feats.

The only explanation to why Madara was able to use Susanoo was because he was missing one eye so part of his Sharingan chakra was available to use, it makes sense but many people say it's a stretch.
 

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Itachi action is still unforgivable at least we know obito is the one broke the kyubi not the uchiha. Itachi is wrong in many way he kill his own parent and entire clan still incomparable sin. Just in real life not just kill your parent but your entire relatives and connection because of slander. It's BS the most bullshit redemption i ever encounter in manga history.

I never typed that it was right...just not black and white...and itachi wasn't looking for redemption at all...kishi just wrote the reactions to his actions that way
 

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That wasn't the rule before, Susanoo was considered a Sharingan ability and when you unlock the chakra for Rinnegan you lose the chakra that gives Sharingan feats.

when the HELL was this ever stated in the manga?
 
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