[Debate] Best Political sytem

[Genocide]

Both hypothetically and what has already been proven what in your opinion is the best system.

 

[TemplarKnight]

Republic and Liberterian

 

[The Great Second Hokage]

Yeah a republic should be one there and I'd like to point out that most Americans believe the U.S.A. to be a true democracy when in reality its a constitutional republic.

 

[Genocide]

Yeah a republic should be one there and I'd like to point out that most Americans believe the U.S.A. to be a true democracy when in reality its a constitutional republic.

i forgot to put that one in,

Republic and Liberterian

forgot libertarian aswell rip

 

[Ludicrous]

In theory, communism. In practice, democracy. A lot of the options are pretty similar. Dictatorships can get a lot done but executing your opponents is usually frowned upon.

 

[Genocide]

In theory, communism. In practice, democracy. A lot of the options are pretty similar. Dictatorships can get a lot done but executing your opponents is usually frowned upon.

thoughts on fascism?

 

[Ludicrous]

thoughts on fascism?

Not really that different from a lot of the other systems that controlled the world before like oligarchy and monarchies. But it was especially dangerous because it used populism for success. I don't really have to say much about the ideology. There's always a small group of people that control the majority of the wealth and power in the world. A lot of the systems we see are really just attempts to control people so I can see why people turn to anarchy and communism.

 

[Lightbringer]

I don't get your poll. Most of what you listed can be a hybrid of each other listing.

 

[Genocide]

I don't get your poll. Most of what you listed can be a hybrid of each other listing.

because they are all different, btw lightbringer im guessing yours is liberalism

Not really that different from a lot of the other systems that controlled the world before like oligarchy and monarchies. But it was especially dangerous because it used populism for success. I don't really have to say much about the ideology. There's always a small group of people that control the majority of the wealth and power in the world. A lot of the systems we see are really just attempts to control people so I can see why people turn to anarchy and communism.

but it is a great system that serves the best interests of individuals and the state, and does work unlike communism

 

[Lightbringer]

because they are all different, btw lightbringer im guessing yours is liberalism

Out of the poorly constructed list, I chose Democracy.

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[Genocide]

Out of the poorly constructed list, I chose Democracy.

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thats a surprise,
>using donald trump memes while not supporting him
makes sense duuuuude

 

[Lightbringer]

thats a surprise,
>using donald trump memes while not supporting him
makes sense duuuuude

It's a surprise to you because you don't actually read what I have to say, and instead jump to conclusions. The problem is that you treat politics and worldly issues as black and white when in fact it's all just shades of gray. I have to argue counterpoints with die-hard conservatives and libertarians, such as yourself, on this forum before I can establish my own philosophy.

For example; in your mind, you think I'm pro Islam, but I vehemently oppose religion in general. But unlike you, I am not unfair in my judgment of religion and I can see that not all of the people should be condemned for practicing it, which is something you and your ilk do. So before I can say that I am against Islam, I have to establish that I am an objective individual, and while I hold my criticisms, am I not unfair. But because I defend irrational statements against Islam, you jump to the conclusion that I am pro-Islam, which cannot be further from the truth.

And me using Trump memes is just a way to patronize you.

 

[Michelle]

In theory, communism. In practice, democracy. A lot of the options are pretty similar. Dictatorships can get a lot done but executing your opponents is usually frowned upon.

Communism is a fairy tale. It will never happen in reality because it always turns to dictatorship. Is no good in theory either because is lacking the common sense.

If i have to choose from your list i'd choose monarchy. I am tired of the word democracy. Behind it you can find a lot of hypocrisy and lies.

PS I can't vote is a bug on my phone or in the forum. Edited- finally worked the vote

 

[Genocide]

It's a surprise to you because you don't actually read what I have to say, and instead jump to conclusions. The problem is that you treat politics and worldly issues as black and white when in fact it's all just shades of gray. I have to argue counterpoints with die-hard conservatives and libertarians, such as yourself, on this forum before I can establish my own philosophy.

For example; in your mind, you think I'm pro Islam, but I vehemently oppose religion in general. But unlike you, I am not unfair in my judgment of religion and I can see that not all of the people should be condemned for practicing it, which is something you and your ilk do. So before I can say that I am against Islam, I have to establish that I am an objective individual, and while I hold my criticisms, am I not unfair. But because I defend irrational statements against Islam, you jump to the conclusion that I am pro-Islam, which cannot be further from the truth.

And me using Trump memes is just a way to patronize you.

lol im not conservative or libertarian, "not every musilm is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a muslim" not explicitly true but you get my point, plus a large percentage of muslims support sharia law which should also come under terrorism,

Communism is a fairy tale. It will never happen in reality because it always turns to dictatorship. Is no good in theory either because is lacking the common sense.

If i have to choose from your list i'd choose monarchy. I am tired of the word democracy. Behind it you can find a lot of hypocrisy and lies.

PS I can't vote is a bug on my phone or in the forum. Edited- finally worked the vote

if it actually worked though it would be good, but in reality it creates a dystopia

 

[Lightbringer]

lol im not conservative or libertarian, "not every musilm is a terrorist, but every terrorist is a muslim" not explicitly true but you get my point, plus a large percentage of muslims support sharia law which should also come under terrorism,

Ok, so in your mind, what political spectrum do you think you adhere to?

@Bold: No, it's actually not true in any way whatsoever. Not every terrorist is a Muslim. The definition of terrorism is:

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

Literally every nation, every race, and every religion can be fit into this category. The biggest terrorists in this world are the U.S. who don't abide by their own nor international laws by invading countries, torturing, and bombing innocent civilians. The U.S. has killed more innocents than all of Islam, and you're saying that the only terrorists are Muslims?

That's what I'm talking when I say "irrational statements". You like to criticize me for being "supposedly" brainwashed by the mainstream media ( even though I don't watch it), yet you are regurgitating the biggest lie of mainstream media.

 

[Genocide]

Ok, so in your mind, what political spectrum do you think you adhere to?

@Bold: No, it's actually not true in any way whatsoever. Not every terrorist is a Muslim. The definition of terrorism is:

"the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."

Literally every nation can be fit into this category. The biggest terrorists in this world are the U.S. who don't abide by their own nor international laws by invading countries, torturing, and bombing innocent civilians. The U.S. has killed more innocents than all of Islam, and you're saying that the only terrorists are Muslims?

That's what I'm talking when I say "irrational statements". You like to criticize me for being "supposedly" brainwashed by the mainstream media ( even though I don't watch it), yet you are regurgitating the biggest lie of mainstream media.

im Left-Leaning Pro-Government Isolationist Nativist Reactionary

i now if you read the last part of what i said i believe anyone who supports sharia law should be classified as a terrorist

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[Lightbringer]

im Left-Leaning Pro-Government Isolationist Nativist Reactionary

Explain what that even means to me. I want you to go into detail and define what each word means and how you are categorized as such.

i now if you read the last part of what i said i believe anyone who supports sharia law should be classified as a terrorist

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You said every terrorist is a Muslim.

 

[Genocide]

Explain what that even means to me. I want you to go into detail and define what each word means and how you are categorized as such.




You said every terrorist is a Muslim.

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Collectivism score: 33%
Authoritarianism score: 33%
Internationalism score: -67%
Tribalism score: 67%
Liberalism score: -67%


r i didnt literally mean it i just meant that a large majority are, ofc it would never be only muslim thats sort of impossible,

pro gov- taxes, regulation ect,
isolationist- internalized, unless a direct threat to your country we should leave the world as it is, no importation and exportation of goods that our country can produce ourself,
nativist- no immigrants, favour over ones country/people
reactionary- opposing poltical and social change, however these days i have become more of a revolutionary in the sense that society requires new laws and regulations in order to preserve the country, the world has lost sight of traditional values and the destruction of western society is imminent

 

[Lightbringer]

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Collectivism score: 33%
Authoritarianism score: 33%
Internationalism score: -67%
Tribalism score: 67%
Liberalism score: -67%


r i didnt literally mean it i just meant that a large majority are, ofc it would never be only muslim thats sort of impossible,

pro gov- taxes, regulation ect,
isolationist- internalized, unless a direct threat to your country we should leave the world as it is, no importation and exportation of goods that our country can produce ourself,
nativist- no immigrants, favour over ones country/people
reactionary- opposing poltical and social change, however these days i have become more of a revolutionary in the sense that society requires new laws and regulations in order to preserve the country, the world has lost sight of traditional values and the destruction of western society is imminent

That tells me nothing. It's all very vague and nothing specific. Aside from wealth redistribution, how does any of that make you "left leaning?"

Based on the vague descriptions you've listed, you are without a doubt a conservative.

 

[BLAZE]

>using donald trump memes while not supporting him
makes sense duuuuude

wow i can't use kim jong un meme's becoz i don't support him.One of the most stupid things i have heard