Best Madara Theory with proof

DiatonSabaoth

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ok alot of confusion has been on this keep in mind its just a theory..one thing is how dose he know about nagato. another is if he is this powerfull how did he lose..for you smart ones how come he has not killed the 5 kages yet. and also the big one tobi..

this is 2 of my theorys first off he stated he awaked the rengian shortly before his death. so with such short time of living he needed to have someone use the power of the renigain to revive him. the renigain takes alot of life force and which clan has the most Uzamiki(nagato) how would he know of nagato 1 maby the renigain can see the future
also as for the why madara lost the fight with the first is becuase he was not as powerfull as he is now(first hokage cells) now why cant he just end the kages with his new power..edo teso has a handy-cap if u havent noticed. the mix of becontroled and their power is the reason yes kabato is leting him roam free and as for orchimarus edo he had to infuse them bouth in order to fight the 3rd so they had only like 25% of their power..

now as for tobi. the reason why he clamed himself as madara was not to start the war..he is madara. heres how mind tranfer justu they mentioned in the research of pain that the traits of it where similer to their own justu..so tobi had madaras mind but not his body which is why he is a former half of his old self and why edo madara is young and tobie is old
he tranfered his mind into someone else and took over..then he went on a search for someone to train the renigian sence he only had a bit of time to learn most of its tricks. now why would he just not use inzinagi why waist such perfict eyes when he can become more powerfull. and with his death the alll gards are let down. the other one involves zetsu but i dont have much proof on it
 

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Awesome theory, and i got my 500 post :D
+repp :)
 

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Well i like the theory, but you cannot put proof and theory in the same sentence. You can put reason XD
 

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No offense, but I think all of these theories have been posted in some way or another before. That being said, let's break this down nice and slow.

1. There is no evidence that the Rinnegan allows the user to see the future. What Nagato meant by seeing a different future in Naruto is that he believed that Naruto would not end up jilted like he did. Do you think that Nagato would have done everything he did if he knew that eventually he would change his mind. In essence, he killed Jiraiya for absolutely no reason; if he could see the future, he would have likely planned out his attack better so as to be able to resurrect Jiraiya.

2. Your thing about why Madara hasn't killed the Kage doesn't even make sense. You ask a question, answer it, and then produce a counter argument all in what I think is one sentence. If you meant to say that Madara is limited in some way or another by being an Edo, you are seriously misguided. Madara has demonstrated a great deal more power than all of the Kage combined. Furthermore, Kabuto is not controlling Madara's actions at all, and even if he was, he has demonstrated his desire to kill the Kage at least twice so far. In other words, Madara must have some personal reason that he is toying with the Kage since it is not a question of why he can't kill them, but rather why he is choosing not to.

3. There are dozens of posts about Tobi being a transplanted version of Madara, and the fundamental flaw in all of the arguments is that Edo Tensei operates by using a person's soul. This means that regardless of where the body is located, if the soul still exists in the pure world, the person cannot be resurrected with Edo Tensei. The bottom line is that if Tobi was Madara transplanted into a new body, Kabuto would not have been able to bring him back. Some alternatives, however, would be if Tobi were a clone, student, brother, completely unrelated individual, etc. Nice try though.
 

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No offense, but I think all of these theories have been posted in some way or another before. That being said, let's break this down nice and slow.

1. There is no evidence that the Rinnegan allows the user to see the future. What Nagato meant by seeing a different future in Naruto is that he believed that Naruto would not end up jilted like he did. Do you think that Nagato would have done everything he did if he knew that eventually he would change his mind. In essence, he killed Jiraiya for absolutely no reason; if he could see the future, he would have likely planned out his attack better so as to be able to resurrect Jiraiya.

2. Your thing about why Madara hasn't killed the Kage doesn't even make sense. You ask a question, answer it, and then produce a counter argument all in what I think is one sentence. If you meant to say that Madara is limited in some way or another by being an Edo, you are seriously misguided. Madara has demonstrated a great deal more power than all of the Kage combined. Furthermore, Kabuto is not controlling Madara's actions at all, and even if he was, he has demonstrated his desire to kill the Kage at least twice so far. In other words, Madara must have some personal reason that he is toying with the Kage since it is not a question of why he can't kill them, but rather why he is choosing not to.

3. There are dozens of posts about Tobi being a transplanted version of Madara, and the fundamental flaw in all of the arguments is that Edo Tensei operates by using a person's soul. This means that regardless of where the body is located, if the soul still exists in the pure world, the person cannot be resurrected with Edo Tensei. The bottom line is that if Tobi was Madara transplanted into a new body, Kabuto would not have been able to bring him back. Some alternatives, however, would be if Tobi were a clone, student, brother, completely unrelated individual, etc. Nice try though.

agreed:shrug:
 

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Rinnegan can see in the future ..hmm hardly to believe but since so6p said to every tailed beast about a boy who will save them ..who knows:p
 

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good theory, i thought the same thing. but, tobi, by kishi's laws, cant be madara. madara's soul is brought back by edo. i think tobi is either izuna, or madara's body, or both.
 

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Well I have theory about Madara's and Tobi's connection.

 

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there is no proof that the rinnegan can see the future..but if it can read minds i wouldnt be shocked if it can take a glimpse in the future (seeing how that frog can see the future but not completely could work on the same concept) ...would be cool if it has that ability
 
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