Bernie supporters...

[The Necromancer]

opinions and facts aren't the same thing.

He flat out proves why bernie is incorrect in the video. Based on facts, Bernie can't generate the revenue needed to pay for his plan.

And according to my facts, he can. So... /thread I guess.

 

[Ciao]

The money for college tuition is budgeted. It has a place to go.

War on drugs is debatable.. I think Marijuana legalization should depend on the state and voters though.

Yes some parts and people on Wall Street are jackasses

i'm not certain, but i think you are saying high prices for college are fitting? if that's how you feel then more power to you but i disagree

 

[slimreaper]

And according to my facts, he can. So... /thread I guess.

He flat out proves why bernie is incorrect in the video. Based on facts, Bernie can't generate the revenue needed to pay for his plan. Even if he cut the entire military and taxed the top 1% at 100%, he'd still be six trillion short. that's not an opinion that's a fact. Both of which will never come close to happening.


What is not a fact is Bernie's ambitious "cutting costs" plan with healthcare which he hasn't actually outlined.


Debunk this using Bernie's "facts"^^

 

[Nikes]

I would read this before basing your conclusions on a comedian's opinion.

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To begin with though, again, we emphasize that our conclusions are not based on
anything close to the type of solid foundation in research and evidence that one would normally
expect in considering such an important question. Unfortunately, to our knowledge, such
research and evidence are simply not available, to us or anybody else. At the same time, given
what we know about the available evidence and research, as well as on how other organizations
have advanced policy recommendations on this question, we think that our conclusions are based
on a foundation of evidence and reasoning that is at least as firm, if not firmer, than any other
proposals of which we are aware.

This was taken from one of Bernies proposals.

This proposal was taken from this issue: College for All: Sen. Sanders has proposed making public colleges and universities tuition-free and substantially reducing student debt, in a plan that would cost about $75 billion a year.

 

[The Necromancer]

He flat out proves why bernie is incorrect in the video. Based on facts, Bernie can't generate the revenue needed to pay for his plan. Even if he cut the entire military and taxed the top 1% at 100%, he'd still be six trillion short. that's not an opinion that's a fact. Both of which will never come close to happening.


What is not a fact is Bernie's ambitious "cutting costs" plan with healthcare which he hasn't actually outlined.


Debunk this using Bernie's "facts"^^

Why should I have to? You're saying "Bernie's facts are wrong based on this." So I'm saying "Your facts are wrong based on this."

See how the internet and facts work now?

 

[Nikes]

i'm not certain, but i think you are saying high prices for college are fitting? if that's how you feel then more power to you but i disagree

Don't get me wrong I think they are high but the money is placed where it needs to go.

Just look it up if you aren't certain. Find a diagram showing percentages where the money goes. Surely if tuition was lower they can adjust their budget but I don't know how the college would be affected.

 

[slimreaper]

Why should I have to? You're saying "Bernie's facts are wrong based on this." So I'm saying "Your facts are wrong based on this."

See how the internet and facts work now?

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Thats the thing. My evidence presented is specifically designed to counter yours.

You're just posting what bernie says, as if I haven't actually read it, while you obviously haven't read my sources

 

[The Necromancer]

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Thats the thing. My evidence presented is specifically designed to counter yours.

You're just posting what bernie says, as if I haven't actually read it, while you obviously haven't read my sources

What if I say I don't believe you have, because your facts are wrong?

 

[Nikes]

What if I say I don't believe you have, because your facts are wrong?

Could you reply to my comment instead of bickering about who has the bigger d**k

 

[slimreaper]

What if I say I don't believe you have, because your facts are wrong?

Look how vague he is with his proposals

Paid for by a 6.2 percent income-based health care premium paid by employers, a 2.2 percent income-based premium paid by households, progressive income tax rates, taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work, limiting tax deductions for the rich, adjusting the estate tax, and savings from health tax expenditures.


These are your facts?

 

[The Necromancer]

Could you reply to my comment instead of bickering about who has the bigger d**k

I honestly don't know what you want me to respond with. I didn't think your post needed a response.

Look how vague he is with his proposals

Paid for by a 6.2 percent income-based health care premium paid by employers, a 2.2 percent income-based premium paid by households, progressive income tax rates, taxing capital gains and dividends the same as income from work, limiting tax deductions for the rich, adjusting the estate tax, and savings from health tax expenditures.


These are your facts?

-Sigh- I guess I'm going to have to spoon feed you after all.

Taking internet facts, especially those having to deal with political agendas, with blind faith is retarded. And I'm really sorry you've been sucked into it.

I honestly don't care about your position. I was just trying to get you to realize how stupid this was.

 

[Nikes]

I honestly don't know what you want me to respond with. I didn't think your post needed a response.



-Sigh- I guess I'm going to have to spoon feed you after all.

Taking internet facts, especially those having to deal with political agendas, with blind faith is retarded. And I'm really sorry you've been sucked into it.

I honestly don't care about your position. I was just trying to get you to realize how stupid this was.

He took that from Bernie Sanders official website......

As did I.. And I wanted you to address why his proposals "payment" is represented by nothing but an ass pull.. Which he admitted to being one.. Hence the bolded text to my response.

 

[slimreaper]

I honestly don't know what you want me to respond with. I didn't think your post needed a response.



-Sigh- I guess I'm going to have to spoon feed you after all.

Taking internet facts, especially those having to deal with political agendas, with blind faith is retarded. And I'm really sorry you've been sucked into it.

I honestly don't care about your position. I was just trying to get you to realize how stupid this was.

But it's not retarded to put blind faith into a political candidate who is quite frankly wrong and vague and just trying to get your vote?


You people thrive in hypocrisy

 

[The Necromancer]

But it's not retarded to put blind faith into a political candidate who is quite frankly wrong and vague and just trying to get your vote?


You people thrive in hypocrisy

I see I underestimated how big of a spoon I would need.

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He took that from Bernie Sanders official website......

As did I.. And I wanted you to address why his proposals "payment" is represented by nothing but an ass pull..

I don't actually care, nor am I trying to support these proposals. I'm just trying to point out how ridiculous it is to base decisions upon internet facts, as there are hundreds, if not thousands, of "reputable" sources that support every single side there is to support. So what the **** is the point?

 

[Corgi]

I don't know why you guys are arguing about this. You should be arguing about the ~$50 billion wall we're gonna get Mexico to build for us.

 

[The Necromancer]

I don't know why you guys are arguing about this. You should be arguing about the ~$50 billion wall we're gonna get Mexico to build for us.

This guy gets it.

 

[slimreaper]

I don't know why you guys are arguing about this. You should be arguing about the ~$50 billion wall we're gonna get Mexico to build for us.

you're assuming my support for trump.

I don't support anyone who wants to spend my money for their needs. The only candidates that don't fit that bill are typically libertarian

 

[Nikes]

I see I underestimated how big of a spoon I would need.

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I don't actually care, nor am I trying to support these proposals. I'm just trying to point out how ridiculous it is to base decisions upon internet facts, as there are hundreds, if not thousands, of "reputable" sources that support every single side there is to support. So what the **** is the point?

Alright dude if you say so. Just don't open a door you can't close next time, because the "internet facts" you speak of are now taken from Bernie Sanders' official page.

I don't know why you guys are arguing about this. You should be arguing about the ~$50 billion wall we're gonna get Mexico to build for us.

There's nothing to argue about and it's off topic.

 

[The Necromancer]

Alright dude if you say so. Just don't open a door you can't close next time, because the "internet facts" you speak of are now taken from Bernie Sanders' official page.

Oh jeez. You didn't understand a word I said either. U_U

 

[Nikes]

Oh jeez. You didn't understand a word I said either. U_U

I did I just think you lost sight of what this conversation was about.