[Discussion] Benn Beckmann vs Kizaru

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Honestly I'd say Beckmann, He seems to be the strongest first mate we've seen in the series so far just on hype alone. Maybe my curiosity is getting the better of me and I want to see what he can do in a fight. Especially since Kizaru went toe to toe with Rogers and WB's firstmate but was stopped by Shanks first mate.
 
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Honestly I'd say Beckmann, He seems to be the strongest first mate we've seen in the series so far just on hype alone. Maybe my curiosity is getting the better of me and I want to see what he can do in a fight. Especially since Kizaru went toe to toe with Rogers and WB's firstmate but was stopped by Shanks first mate.
Im guessing you're not including Prime Rayleigh. Benn didn't stop him Kizaru stopped his attack to acknowledge Benn being there and then he used his attack on Luffy.
 

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Kizaru high diff, its actually funny how can u take seriously a troll like kizaru, he actually ignored beckman leater like he wasnt even there and beckman didnt attack, there is no first mate that beats an admiral except for Prime Rayleigh, the only ones who have the power to take down admirals are yonkos, as the strongest characters in the series are admirals/yonkos the other all come leater.
 

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Kizaru high diff, its actually funny how can u take seriously a troll like kizaru, he actually ignored beckman leater like he wasnt even there and beckman didnt attack, there is no first mate that beats an admiral except for Prime Rayleigh, the only ones who have the power to take down admirals are yonkos, as the strongest characters in the series are admirals/yonkos the other all come leater.
yonkou first mates and Sabo are equal to at least one admiral.
 

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yonkou first mates and Sabo are equal to at least one admiral.
Why is that? Sabo is stalling Issho for time nothing more nothing less, admirals are the strongest fighters from marines while yonkos from pirates these ppl are in the same ballpark the others come leater, if u can fight rayleigh u definitely beat beckman or Sabo, Sabo has shown nothing impressive the guy is stalling Issho to not stop luffy.
 

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Why is that? Sabo is stalling Issho for time nothing more nothing less, admirals are the strongest fighters from marines while yonkos from pirates these ppl are in the same ballpark the others come leater, if u can fight rayleigh u definitely beat beckman or Sabo, Sabo has shown nothing impressive the guy is stalling Issho to not stop luffy.
Rayleigh is old and hasn't been in action for awhile, of course an admiral can fight him.
 

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I don't get why nobody knows this fact.

I mean we have seen so many yonkou first mates in action already against admirals.
Marco, Benn, and Sabo are at admiral level so that's 3/6 of them, and Kaido's and BM's first mates are probably about as strong as these 3. Shiryuu should be admiral level since he was high VA level pre TS and then spent 2 years in the NW.
 
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Marco, Benn, and Sabo are at admiral level so that's 3/6 of them, and Kaido's and BM's first mates are probably about as strong as these 3. Shiryuu should be admiral level since he was high VA level pre TS and then spent 2 years in the NW.
Again, how can you say that ?

You only seen 1 fight, and that was Marco, he wasn't able to put a scratch on Kizaru or Akainu. The both kept healing like his attacks were more like an 'inconvenience'. He got cuffed by a vice admiral and at that point he was just out the war.

Benn Backman did nothing but make a threat and Sabo also hasn't shown anything against Fujitora.

Yet you already are comparing the 'others' to these 3 who are pretty much featless.

There is so much speculation that it even hurts my sense of fantasy.
 

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Again, how can you say that ?

You only seen 1 fight, and that was Marco, he wasn't able to put a scratch on Kizaru or Akainu. The both kept healing like his attacks were more like an 'inconvenience'. He got cuffed by a vice admiral and at that point he was just out the war.

Benn Backman did nothing but make a threat and Sabo also hasn't shown anything against Fujitora.

Yet you already are comparing the 'others' to these 3 who are pretty much featless.

There is so much speculation that it even hurts my sense of fantasy.
What level do you think they are at then?
 
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