Being demi gods isn't what ruined the manga

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There's one thing I learned from reading novels and playing video games, a story can never go bad as long as the writing is consistent. Naruto and Sasuke gaining Hagoromo's powers would've been completely legitimate if Kishi didn't introduce the "prophecy" part and instead just left it at the MCs being incarnates of Hagoromo or his children.


I say this because it was already implied since part 1 that Naruto was special despite his lack of super intelligence. And in Sasuke's case, he was the son of the clan leader and Itachi's brother, being a one in a kind Uchiha was never a matter of "if" but a matter of "when".


Being incarnates didn't go against the plot because Naruto and Sasuke still had to earn Indra and Ashura's powers. They were born with the potential but not the power itself, they still had to work to reach their goals. BZ further reinforced this when he said many before them failed.


I think the story got ruined when Kishi decided to stop focusing on the Naruto/Sasuke dynamic, what I mean by "dynamic" is for example when you saw Sasuke defeating strong opponents against all odds you would then have Naruto going through the same odds in order to catch up ("oh you killed an Akatsuki ? well Im gonna prove I'm just as good as you by killing an Akatsuki as well").


That dynamic was lost in the war arc when the author decided to only focus on Uchiha villains, in addition he also decided to ignore developing non-MCs. There were plenty of characters with the potential to challenge NaruSasu and give them a reason to get stronger but they were completely ignored.

All in all the story got ruined because it was rushed which forced Kishi to introduce the most insulting plot devices ever recorded. If he intended on the MCs being demi gods he should've saved at least another 200 chapters to portray how they transition from being talented shinobi to semi divine beings and how their opponents force them to reach that level.

You would still have Naruto working hard to reach the level Sasuke was quickly attaining on his killing sprees, and you wouldn't get washed up versions of legendary Otsutsuki.
 
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There are other mangas where characters are super strong and the fights are still entertaining. It's Kishi's fault for not being to create good fights anymore
 

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There are other mangas where characters are super strong and the fights are still entertaining. It's Kishi's fault for not being to create good fights anymore

Tbh I don't even blame Kishi anymore, what I see is someone who's artistic vision got shitted on by greedy editors. He had amazing concepts from 1st chapter to last but they were never fully realized.
 

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I'm yet to see a demi God like Thor, Hercules, and Diana so where did you see this half deities exactly?
 

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I'm yet to see a demi God like Thor, Hercules, and Diana so where did you see this half deities exactly?

Rinnegan, RSM, cutting the moon in half, being able to create out of nothingness, cheating death, etc. If these aren't godly feats then you might as well call Zeus as casual.
 

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Rinnegan, RSM, crushing the moon in half, being able to create out of nothingness, cheating death, etc. If these aren't godly feats then you might as well call Zeus as casual.

Deities don't die so these things don't make you a Demi god, it makes you extraterrestrial if anything.

But I do agree that amazing God-like feats don't ruin the series.
 

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So Zetsu is like God for setting up everything and knowing everything that happened?
 

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Rinnegan, RSM, cutting the moon in half, being able to create out of nothingness, cheating death, etc. If these aren't godly feats then you might as well call Zeus as casual.

I agree but cutting the moon in half is not a godly feat.the technique has range not that much power. Naruto blocken it with just his KCM Chakra only covering his arm.

And the moon is just a huge rock tbh.
 

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So Zetsu is like God for setting up everything and knowing everything that happened?

God if knowledge and intelligence for sure. Dude planned things for thousand years lok
 

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I'm yet to see a demi God like Thor, Hercules, and Diana so where did you see this half deities exactly?

Sasuke stomps Thor
Sakura stomps Hercules
& I don't know Diana but Kaguya stomps
 

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God if knowledge and intelligence for sure. Dude planned things for thousand years lok

He had the ability of anyone fighting for himself by talk no jutsu so basically Zetsu is Le God.
 

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Kishimoto has a hard time focusing on more than five characters per arc :lol
 

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When Naruto became DBZ style fighting >>>>>>>>> Skill and Technique, it fell short.

Then you have the plot holes, the asspulls, and the BS power ups.

Naruto was ruined from chapter 599-700, especially with the cancerous, cringe worthy retarded pairings.
 

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When Naruto became DBZ style fighting >>>>>>>>> Skill and Technique, it fell short.

Then you have the plot holes, the asspulls, and the BS power ups.

Naruto was ruined from chapter 599-700, especially with the cancerous, cringe worthy retarded pairings.

Sasuke uchiwa ruined teh series with his b$ free powerups...
 

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Sasuke stomps Thor
Sakura stomps Hercules
& I don't know Diana but Kaguya stomps

Diana is the goddess of hunt/moon but in dc comics she is goddess of truth aka Wonder Woman.
Don't know why you have her Kaguya, she's the weakest of the three.
 

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nagato reviving konoha no jutsu was a coward move from kishi! his biggest mistake and teh downfall of this manga...
 

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Naruto turned to shit LONG b4 the war arc.
 
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