Bee is above Uchiha brothers

[Owarij]

The japanese translation says "i know" and like i've said i consider it better than the viz. Every traduction can be flawed anyway, but obviously you will take the traduction that suits the best to your argument?

And *********** has their own translators , that translated it to "on it", the pic i posted was not viz

 

[Unorthodox]

Holy sh*t. Itachi's goal was still to hit Sasuke with amaterasu, while Sasuke's goal was also to be hit by amaterasu. We havent seen anything to show that anything differs from Naruto's V2 to Bee's except the number of tails. The fact that Bee doesnt go "wild" when he transforms logically makes it more useful than Naruto's anyway. And once again, Jesus Christ, we have seen numerous speed feats from the V2 transformation. It is more likely than not fully capable of dodging amaterasu.

we all no amaterasu s the closest thing to instant so shutup bee cant win

 

[~Supreme Itachi~]

Bee couldn't hit Itachi even when Itachi was busy fighting Naruto.

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Itachi's shunshin was too fast for Bee and Bee needed warnings

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Twice

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Exactly like Sasuke was too fast for Deidara and Deidara needed Obito's warning

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Base Itachi hurt Bee (who needed transformations.) Not the other way around.

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Gyūki only narrowly saved Bee from Itachi's base genjutsu.

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Itachi was singled out by Kabuto as the best among them

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Twice

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Because Itachi was clearly the MVP between the three.

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Naruto said either of Itachi's techniques would finish Bee

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And Itachi is at least dozens of times smarter than Bee. There's no contest.

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holy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this post makes the OP look like a brainless garbage HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

well he is clearly trolling

 

[Omnipotent]

Don't know. Just ask these Itachi fanboys who can't enter a Itachi thread without mentioning Minato's name

But, hey, you can't blame them, this thread makes no sense...

I mean, you're using Sasuke from when he was barely recovered from his fight with his older brother (who was stated various times to not be trying against him), didn't utilize Susanoo, and was first practicing use over enton as the basis of your argument of saying Bee > Sasuke.

You're using Itachi, who was instructing Bee on what to do while he was under Kabuto's control as the basis of your argument. And you're using your own assumption that Itachi's Totsuka Blade has the same limits as Orochimaru's Kusanagi Blade to support your argument. If Minato could cut Bee's tentacle off with a kunai, why can't Itachi's Totsuka Blade even pierce it? I think Bee's getting sealed.

So, how I feel about this thread is:

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[Bogard]

Bee couldn't hit Itachi even when Itachi was busy fighting Naruto.

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Like he couldn't hit Sasuke with zabuza's sword, yet he owned him with his own blade. Swordsmen blade isn't his speciality. He has his own style, and we've clearly seen what happened when he finally decided to take them. Itachi could do nothing else than fleeing away

Itachi's shunshin was too fast for Bee and Bee needed warnings

On the pic before it, Bee was discussing with Naruto. He isn't a sensor to actually notice everything on the battlefield

Twice

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Like i've said, he wasn't surprised at all on this pic

Base Itachi hurt Bee (who needed transformations.) Not the other way around.

We all know Itachi has great handseal, what does that have to do with taijutsu? He still blocked it anyway, so i don't see the point

Gyūki only narrowly saved Bee from Itachi's base genjutsu.

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It's his role. He is not a perfect Jinchuriki for nothing. He has yet to help Bee to counter the genjutsu. Thanks for even providing this. It actually shows how Bee/Hachibi combination was fast enough not only to counter the genjutsu but directly counter Itachi

Itachi was singled out by Kabuto as the best among them

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Funny how you take the traduction that suit your argument. Why don't you take the viz in this case where we clearly know Kabuto never said that, yet you take it for other cases?

 

[Waltz]

So i should consider your traductions when there could be plenty of flaws in it?

What?

So your doubting the Original Producers of Shonen Jump? If you didn't know know Shonen Jump is "Weekly Shōnen Jump" retooled for English readers and the American audience by Viz Media. Viz has the serialized chapters from seven manga series, and articles on Japanese language and culture, as well as manga, anime, video games, and figurines. In conjunction with the magazine, Viz launches new imprints for releasing media related to the series presented in the magazine, and other shōnen works.

 

[Lilt]

Funny how you take the traduction that suit your argument. Why don't you take the viz in this case where we clearly know Kabuto never said that, yet you take it for other cases?

I'm catering to your ridiculous taste in "traduction" lol. Your favored translation source has Kabuto saying Itachi's a level above the others. Case closed, right? Otherwise, Bee didn't know Itachi was there, and canonically cannot keep up with Itachi's flicker jutsu, giving Itachi a huge advantage that he realistically doesn't even need, seeing as how it's also canon that Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu would finish Bee, and that base Itachi hurt Bee despite Bee having immunity to normal genjutsu and ninjutsu thanks to two other entities helping his ass, not the other way around.

 

[Bogard]

But, hey, you can't blame them, this thread makes no sense...

I mean, you're using Sasuke from when he was barely recovered from his fight with his older brother (who was stated various times to not be trying against him), didn't utilize Susanoo, and was first practicing use over enton as the basis of your argument of saying Bee > Sasuke.

You're using Itachi, who was instructing Bee on what to do while he was under Kabuto's control as the basis of your argument. And you're using your own assumption that Itachi's Totsuka Blade has the same limits as Orochimaru's Kusanagi Blade to support your argument. If Minato could cut Bee's tentacle off with a kunai, why can't Itachi's Totsuka Blade even pierce it? I think Bee's getting sealed.

So, how I feel about this thread is:

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Where have i used that Sasuke only? I was only mentioning the fact that in base he is superior to them like manga canon showed us. Besides that, i've given other arguments that make me believe he is stronger. Just read the thread

PS: I'm going to sleep anyway. It's already late here. If the thread isn't closed, i'll come back tomorrow to reply

 

[Draphsin]

Like he couldn't hit Sasuke with zabuza's sword, yet he owned him with his own blade. Swordsmen blade isn't his speciality. He has his own style, and we've clearly seen what happened when he finally decided to take them. Itachi could do nothing else than fleeing away

On the pic before it, Bee was discussing with Naruto. He isn't a sensor to actually notice everything on the battlefield


Like i've said, he wasn't surprised at all on this pic

We all know Itachi has great handseal, what does that have to do with taijutsu? He still blocked it anyway, so i don't see the point

It's his role. He is not a perfect Jinchuriki for nothing. He has yet to help Bee to counter the genjutsu. Thanks for even providing this. It actually shows how Bee/Hachibi combination was fast enough not only to counter the genjutsu but directly counter Itachi

Funny how you take the traduction that suit your argument. Why don't you take the viz in this case where we clearly know Kabuto never said that, yet you take it for other cases?

you still dont have a counter for any of itachi's MS abilities :ice:

 

[Space Cowboy]

we all no amaterasu s the closest thing to instant so shutup bee cant win

FTG is actually. But thats besides the point. Speed is amaterasus weakness. V2 has plenty of that. No need to be butt-hurt. Looking at this fight realistically Bee has an extremely probable chance of victory considering he has:
1. Speed to dodge amaterasu, enton, Susano'o arrows etc.
2. Tough V2 skin that even the sword of Kusanagi (which can supposedly cut through anything) cant cut through
3. Chakra arms that can attack from underground (shown to be a weakness of Susano'o)
4. Extremely enhanced strength. Wouldnt be surprised if that alone would be enough to crack a Susano'o. Probably not though considering with Sasuke's enton and Itachi's yata mirror that would be pretty pointless
Anyways, i think people highly under estimate the power of a perfect jin who has complete mastery and control of all of the chakra of a bijuu. Just doesnt make much sense to me.

 

[Strict]

Japanese statements can be translated differently, as they depended from the context; therefore they can be different translations. Bee saying I know can also stand in a different context, for example saying I know for being aware what to do next. It's about to compare different translations, I guess the other translators also know how to do their job. Don't beat about the bush, Itachi is much faster and smarter, he can easily analyze Bee and read his moves. When it comes to the Mangekyou Sharingan, Bee can't counter a single technique of it. One eye contact will kill him, one glance will do it as well. Yatas mirror will allow Itachi to even repel a Tailed Beast Bomb, while Totsukas sword will crush and seal him in any form. How do you can compare Orochimarus Kusanagi with Totsukas sword, when latter, a spiritual, godly weapon is clearly superior and was even said to be?

 

[Omnipotent]

Where have i used that Sasuke only? I was only mentioning the fact that in base he is superior to them like manga canon showed us. Besides that, i've given other arguments that make me believe he is stronger. Just read the thread

PS: I'm going to sleep anyway. It's already late here. If the thread isn't closed, i'll come back tomorrow to reply

Okay.

But that still doesn't change the fact that your thread is assumption-based:
"You're using your own assumption that Itachi's Totsuka Blade has the same limits as Orochimaru's Kusanagi Blade to support your argument. If Minato could cut Bee's tentacle off with a kunai, why can't Itachi's Totsuka Blade even pierce it? I think Bee's getting sealed."

 

[Space Cowboy]

Okay.

But that still doesn't change the fact that your thread is assumption-based:
"You're using your own assumption that Itachi's Totsuka Blade has the same limits as Orochimaru's Kusanagi Blade to support your argument. If Minato could cut Bee's tentacle off with a kunai, why can't Itachi's Totsuka Blade even pierce it? I think Bee's getting sealed."

I believe he was referring to the skin of V2 form jins. That was the transformation that showed the abilitiy to withstand that sword.

 

[Q of the Sharingan]

Like he couldn't hit Sasuke with zabuza's sword, yet he owned him with his own blade. Swordsmen blade isn't his speciality. He has his own style, and we've clearly seen what happened when he finally decided to take them. Itachi could do nothing else than fleeing away

On the pic before it, Bee was discussing with Naruto. He isn't a sensor to actually notice everything on the battlefield


Like i've said, he wasn't surprised at all on this pic

We all know Itachi has great handseal, what does that have to do with taijutsu? He still blocked it anyway, so i don't see the point

It's his role. He is not a perfect Jinchuriki for nothing. He has yet to help Bee to counter the genjutsu. Thanks for even providing this. It actually shows how Bee/Hachibi combination was fast enough not only to counter the genjutsu but directly counter Itachi

Funny how you take the traduction that suit your argument. Why don't you take the viz in this case where we clearly know Kabuto never said that, yet you take it for other cases?

Tsukuyomi's damage takes effect in a few seconds. By the time Gyuki breaks Bee out of the genjutsu, Bee would have been tortured for at least a day in the illusion. The mental breakdown would leave Bee helpless like it did Kakashi.

 

[Omnipotent]

I believe he was referring to the skin of V2 form jins. That was the transformation that showed the abilitiy to withstand that sword.

So V2 form jinchuuriki > full on Biju now?
Bee's getting sealed :|

 

[Waltz]

Japanese statements can be translated differently, as they depended from the context; therefore they can be different translations. Bee saying I know can also stand in a different context, for example saying I know for being aware what to do next. It's about to compare different translations, I guess the other translators also know how to do their job. Don't beat about the bush, Itachi is much faster and smarter, he can easily analyze Bee and read his moves. When it comes to the Mangekyou Sharingan, Bee can't counter a single technique of it. One eye contact will kill him, one glance will do it as well. Yatas mirror will allow Itachi to even repel a Tailed Beast Bomb, while Totsukas sword will crush and seal him in any form. How do you can compare Orochimarus Kusanagi with Totsukas sword, when latter, a spiritual, godly weapon is clearly superior and was even said to be?

Being that he's not here do defend his vague beliefs, this is the nonsensical reason why, Bogard believes that "sealing ability" is the only difference between Kusanagi and Totsuka:

Sorry it seems that there is a misconception. I'm not comparing Bee to Uchiha bros together, but it's 1vs1 Concerning totsuka, databook clearly says that it's a kusanagi variant and the only difference is that it has sealing powers, so i don't see why there should be a difference. I don't think Kishi told us that for nothing, like i don't think you believe it would pierce thru a Bijuu, right?
Exactly. And thanks for agreeing man

 

[Space Cowboy]

So V2 form jinchuuriki > full on Biju now?
Bee's getting sealed :|

Lets not play dumb. The V2 cloak showed to have more durability and ability to deflect damage. V2 Naruto withstood a sword said to be able to cut through adamantine (which is the material that Enma transforms into which is supposedly unbreakable) while obviously yes Minato cut through Hachibi's tail in full bijuu form. Two different forms, two different sets of abilities. And then on top of that V2's speed > that of full bijuu transformations. I highly doubt it would get caught by totsuka regardless.

 

[Lilt]

If we're not playing dumb, then physical resistance wouldn't have any effect on a sword stated to be composed of spiritual energy. The OP's argument in general is trash for that reason, but also that the Totsuka was implied to be better than Orochimaru's Kusanagi, because Orochimaru had been looking for the Totsuka most of his life.

 

[Space Cowboy]

If we're not playing dumb, then physical resistance wouldn't have any effect on a sword stated to be composed of spiritual energy.

Totsuka's penetrating abilities are widely debated and i personally dont have much of a stance on the matter. Ive seen some claim it cant pierce a Susano'o and so forth so until were entirely sure of its piercing capabilities i dont know if comparing it to a sword capable of cutting through anything is the best idea.

 

[Space Cowboy]

If we're not playing dumb, then physical resistance wouldn't have any effect on a sword stated to be composed of spiritual energy. The OP's argument in general is trash for that reason, but also that the Totsuka was implied to be better than Orochimaru's Kusanagi, because Orochimaru had been looking for the Totsuka most of his life.

Well yes, probably for its sealing qualities.