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Since OT changed his mind and no one is coming up with arguments, Sasuke wins :izuna:
 

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No need for arguments when manga already established who was stronger U_U

What chapter in the manga it said or implied Bee>EMS Sasuke in fact it was much more implied that MS Sasuke>Killer Bee. A and Shee actually believed he was defeated.
 
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yeah but the difference is amaterasu wasnt an issue in the last fight but now it would play a big role since bee probably cant dodge it and sasuke can control it better
 

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EMS has shown no difference with MS Sasuke and MS Sasuke was fodderised by Bee, what else?

He fodderised Sasuke without MS, Curse Seal, or Orochimaru's power. Sasuke basically only had Chidori variations and the minute he learned Amaterasu Bee got owned and survived only because of Karin. EMS Sasuke is better spamming, and it seems that it takes less chakra when performing MS techs, he could now summon his hawk and he already knows Bee's fighting style. So yes Sasuke has improved MS Sasuke when fighting Danzo>Sasuke with only Chidori variations
 

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He fodderised Sasuke without MS, Curse Seal, or Orochimaru's power. Sasuke basically only had Chidori variations and the minute he learned Amaterasu Bee got owned and survived only because of Karin. EMS Sasuke is better spamming, and it seems that it takes less chakra when performing MS techs, he could now summon his hawk and he already knows Bee's fighting style. So yes Sasuke has improved MS Sasuke when fighting Danzo>Sasuke with only Chidori variations
Sasuke without MS? Is it a joke? Didn't he tried tsukiyomi? It failed. Tsukiyomi can be cast with normal sharingan now? Amaterasu? Failed also since Bee kawarimid it. So 2MS moves already which are useless. He got killed 2 or 3times in this fight by Bee who wasn't even serious. What do you want else? That Bee fodderise Sasuke next time with one hand? xd
Only change since back then is Susanoo but i don't see what Susanoo would change in this fight since Hachibi is much more stronger than Susanoo
 

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1) sasuke cant use tsukiyomi on bee because he has the 8tails

Nobody's immune to genjutsu, so yes Sasuke can hit Bee with it, but Bee can break it as well.

2) Bee now has samehada so he can use that to absorb amaterasu

Samehada was scared of a simple katon because it was too hot.

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What makes you think it can take the hottest and strongest form of fire release?

3) Bee has TBB which imo can destroy susano

And Sasuke could nail Bee with amaterasu before he even gets the chance to launch his tbb.

4)Bee is better than sasuke with swords

Agreed

on the other hand sasuke still has kirin and i dont think bee could stop that... what do you guys think i just dont reallly like the idea that sasuke cant beat the 8tails and he isnt even in the top 10-15

so what im asking is Bee really stronger than EMS sasuke

As for your premise on Bee being stronger than EMS Sasuke, I disagree.
 

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AMATERASU IS EXTREMELY OVERRATED

amaterasu has never wounded any1 INTENTIONALLY (raikage wounded himself, it didnt kill/hurt tobi, killer bee escaped and let sasuke win the fight so he can fake his death and go on vacation, i believe danzo escaped it too..i cant remember, even gaara's sand matched amaterasu, and nagato overpowered it)

killer bee>sasuke until sasuke can prove himself in the manga
 

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Sasuke without MS? Is it a joke? Didn't he tried tsukiyomi? It failed. Tsukiyomi can be cast with normal sharingan now? Amaterasu? Failed also since Bee kawarimid it. He got killed 2 or 3times in this fight by Bee who wasn't even serious. What do you want else? That Bee fodderise Sasuke next time with one hand? xd
Only change since back then is Susanoo but i don't see what Susanoo would change in this fight since Hachibi is much more stronger than Susanoo

Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi he used a genjutsu. Bee kawarimid it because Sasuke saved Karin Gyuki's tail was gonna hit Karin and Sasuke cut it with Chidori Eiso giving Bee time to use Kawarimi. Sasuke could have just sat there and watch both Bee and Karin die. Of course Sasuke got fodderised he had only chidori variations and some genjutsu. If that was Sasuke who fought Danzo Bee could still be beated Amaterasu would kill Bee from the get go and this time he won't have to care about Karin. He got fodderised by Sasuke who just learned Amaterasu when the fight was basically over and could have won if he didn't care about Karin.
AMATERASU IS EXTREMELY OVERRATED

amaterasu has never wounded any1 INTENTIONALLY (raikage wounded himself, it didnt kill/hurt tobi, killer bee escaped and let sasuke win the fight so he can fake his death and go on vacation, i believe danzo escaped it too..i cant remember, even gaara's sand matched amaterasu, and nagato overpowered it)

killer bee>sasuke until sasuke can prove himself in the manga

Amaterasu killed Zetsu clones lol. Raikage is too fast, Tobi well I don't really know lol, It hurted Bee he was screaming before he got chance to use Kawarimi, Danzo used Izanagi he techinically died and Gaara blocked enton and nagato used shinra tensei so yes this people do have counter but not Bee, he only survived because Sasuke saved Karin. Amaterasu isn't overrated it's just overpowered.
 
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Sasuke without MS? Is it a joke? Didn't he tried tsukiyomi? It failed. Tsukiyomi can be cast with normal sharingan now? Amaterasu? Failed also since Bee kawarimid it. So 2MS moves already which are useless. He got killed 2 or 3times in this fight by Bee who wasn't even serious. What do you want else? That Bee fodderise Sasuke next time with one hand? xd
Only change since back then is Susanoo but i don't see what Susanoo would change in this fight since Hachibi is much more stronger than Susanoo

You do realize that the only reason Bee was able to escape amaterasu was mainly due to luck right?

Sasuke used his chidori sword to cut Bee's tail off and he was able to escape based off of that.

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Sasuke doesn't have Tsukuyomi he used a genjutsu. Bee kawarimid it because Sasuke saved Karin Gyuki's tail was gonna hit Karin and Sasuke cut it with Chidori Eiso giving Bee time to use Kawarimi. Sasuke could have just sat there and watch both Bee and Karin die. Of course Sasuke got fodderised he had only chidori variations and some genjutsu. If that was Sasuke who fought Danzo Bee could still be beated Amaterasu would kill Bee from the get go and this time he won't have to care about Karin. He got fodderised by Sasuke who just learned Amaterasu when the fight was basically over and could have won if he didn't care about Karin.
Amaterasu is useless against Bee. Do you forget Bee control raiton also? Do you think cuting a limb is something Bee couldn't do? What Sasuke did, he could have done it himself
 

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Shee is a fodder. He knows nothing about Bee real power. Not even A knew a thing:
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neither does he know about this;

let alone this;

i know it's not fun arguing with someone who thinks minato>edo madara. So it's not like anything i say will change your biased reason or hate for sasuke...
 

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Amaterasu is useless against Bee. Do you forget Bee control raiton also? Do you think cuting a limb is something Bee couldn't do? What Sasuke did, he could have done it himself

And how exactly is Bee going to do that when he's in his hachibi form? The hachibi and Bee use the same body.
 

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AMATERASU IS EXTREMELY OVERRATED

amaterasu has never wounded any1 INTENTIONALLY (raikage wounded himself, it didnt kill/hurt tobi, killer bee escaped and let sasuke win the fight so he can fake his death and go on vacation, i believe danzo escaped it too..i cant remember, even gaara's sand matched amaterasu, and nagato overpowered it)

killer bee>sasuke until sasuke can prove himself in the manga

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So by your logic Kirin cant kill anyone just because it hasn't been shown killing anyone.. get outta here.
 
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neither does he know about this;

let alone this;

i know it's not fun arguing with someone who thinks minato>edo madara. So it's not like anything i say will change your biased reason or hate for sasuke...
I know you are too fanboy of Sasuke to see the truth;)
 

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Here's your manga page "BS"
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Karin and Juugo only had to help Sasuke because he was holding back and handicapped.

i posted that pic long ago but they still think that he was recovered
 
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