[BBC News] Russia threatens to take Crimea "by force".

GhostProject

Active member
Regular
Joined
Jun 25, 2013
Messages
1,793
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
lmao, hush hush dont ruin the fun Dani >.<






Alright, listen up you gullible morons. I do not often engage in arguments for two reasons, 1-because most of you are a bunch idiots, and simply not worth my time, 2-because there is no argument in my eyes, I simply see the truth as it is and I present it as such.

First of all, I never said I hated humanity, nor do I "wish" them ill in any way, infact I love mankind, as I see it, they are a beacon of hope for our universe, the silverlining in an infinity of darkness, whether by Divine Intervention, or by Science I believe that we are here for a reason, not the reason that most people think - the reason goes deeper than anything, I believe that the universe has a way of course correcting. There are fundemental laws that make our universe function the way it does, one of these laws is attaining balance, im sure youve heard of the phrase - for every action, there is a reaction, and if i may add, for every reaction there is an effect, for every effect there is a change in something, and that change - changes everything else! that I believe is called the butterfly effect!

Cause and Effect are one and the same thing, for every cause is an effect of a previous cause and every effect is a cause for a next effect, and so on and so on in an infinite loop. In short, cause and effect lead to progress, but progress has infinite directions to choose from, and since the universe simply does not have an intellect to be able to choose the positive or the negative direction, it happens simultaneously in all directions, at least thats how it started, but because the universe has "fundemental laws" they serve as a guide to it, in time these laws bring the universe closer and closer to its ultimate path, the universe began as a clump of heat and energy and expanded into the world we know today simply due to the law of cause and effect.

I believe that Evolution itself is a variety of the universal progress, through an almost immeassureable chain of cause and effect that has happened in the 13,7 Billion years that the universe has existed, countless variations has been tried randomly through the simple law of cause and effect, the effects that had endurity remained, and the weaker ones were simply irrelevant thereby unlasting, through time the enduring effects would eventually find their match and bind as one, and so on, this process happening over and over again over billions of years created the first organism, and from there on evolution takes place of course.

Now humanity is quite special, it is the masterpiece of all the universes creations it is a secondary dimension to progress itself because We have something the universe doesnt - we have Intellect!!, we can think, therefore we can change the course of everything! and we are still evolving, in every way - physically, mentally, spiritually etc...but our intelligence is also our achilles heel!, because just as the universe itself can lead to infinite directions, so can we! - the human mind is what I call the innerverse, because it is a world of its own, in a way you could say it is the universe's successor because our minds, our imagination has no limit, therefore some prefer to live their lives in dreams rather than facing the real world, the world is cruel, because we let it be, because we make it so, because every creature is born with the instinct to survive and to protect their own by whatever means, including humanity of course, but because we have intellect and we have feelings, we try to understand oneanother, or at the very least we pretend, but the fact is when push comes to shuv it is only our own emotions that matter, because it can be overwhealming and not all of us can contain it and still think rashionally when life itself does not.

In conclusion and In short, Our intelligence is what have kept us alive this far, our emotions has been the cause of our misfortune and our happiness at the same time, emotions such as hatred, anger, jealousy, boredom, pain, lust and greed has been the cause for great misfortunes, countless deaths, destructions, and cruelty has been done throughout the ages for the simple reason that we can think and we can feel - in a universal point of view, all this might be considered as cause and effect and mere progress, but we are not the universe, we are not aliens as you so cluelessly brought up, we are humans and the way we are, the way we think, the way feel are the only things that counts in deciding our fate!, not different perspectives, not aliens, and not the universe!

Essentially, We are free creatures, free in mind and in spirit, we are born free, and die free but in life we are limited because of oneanother, we limit eachother we try to control eachother, we judge, we punish, we take the birthright of oneanother and we are justified to do so because we are all guilty of that same crime one way or another! those who claim they are innocent either they are too young, or too stupid, or they are simply lying but it is not the guilt that matters here...

what matters is that our nature will always remain so as long as we are humans, because the balance between our emotions and our intellect will always be at risk, i mean look at the russia for example, there was peace and stability for decades containing their greed within, but no longer, they have decided to unleash their greed perhaps because they cannot contain it anymore, or perhaps because they saw an opportunity, or that new and corrupt politicians have persuaded it so, perhaps they have lost thie sense and so on..same for usa, middle east, africa etc.. whatever the reason it only takes one small change in the right place, right time or right person to cause unspeakable terror.

The point is, humanity is unstable, and will always be so one way or the another, and all the while those innocent people... including that dentist and his family you were talking about and billions more in time will be the ones to suffer, the ones to fall victim to humanity's dark side, as have so many, many people before, take all the wars, the deaths, and the cruelty in human history as an example - no doubt in your obliviousness and your selfish nature, you believe that no matter what, its better for humanity to continue this endless chain of misery BECAUSE not all of us are guilty, because some of us dont deserve to die right? well you are right about that, but then again thise who already died and suffered beyond words did not deserve it either, so I ask you isnt it better to end All the pain and misery, all the death and destruction, al the cruelty that is yet to befall our children and their childrens children Once and For All, in One blow than to let the pain continue for all the ages to come until the world itself devours us anyway?

I believe those who live in the present are no more valuable than those who lived in the past, their suffering should not have happened just as much as the pain to come should not be befallen, whats gone is gone but what is yet to happen can be prevented, if you believe that humanity will eventually learn, then you must think its worth it to achieve that through the suffering of others, I do not. for even if humanity does learn, why are the people in the future more important than us or the ones before us? perhaps that is selfish of me to say, but I assure you it is not, I merely believe in an absolute justice, something you might not understand, I believe in a universal equality, but put that aside, I do not believe that humanity will learn, or rather learning goes both ways, while one might learn to value human life another might learn to discard it and it always be so regardless of harmony or peace provided, or genetics decide much about us, which brings me to the final conclusion

I have always believed that the only way to change humanity permanently is through genetics, our nature that leads to our own demise is written in our genes, changing the source of our corruption will be the cause of our salvation, therefore I study Genetics, therefore I will become a Geneticist, but time is of the essence, and I being a human I am not sure I have enough time to make a difference.
It is quite a feat to be able to claim to know truth and claim that most of everyone who would disagree with these things are idiots.

Humanity being wiped out is not a solution to suffering, it's just ending the problems and preventing the solution from ever being possible. It's euthanasia of something with a long life span and more than enough time to recover as a whole.

Look at the bright sides of humanity, the world is a large place, there is going to be justice and injustices, suffering and prospering. When you see the worst of the worst, there will always be the brightest of the bright somewhere. It will just take time but the good can eventually outnumber the bad.

I cherish the possibility of that. Taking away humanities' will and choice to eventually achieve this would is just wrong.
 

Ψ Veritas Ψ

Banned
Elite
Joined
Dec 20, 2012
Messages
6,246
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
It is quite a feat to be able to claim to know truth and claim that most of everyone who would disagree with these things are idiots.

Humanity being wiped out is not a solution to suffering, it's just ending the problems and preventing the solution from ever being possible. It's euthanasia of something with a long life span and more than enough time to recover as a whole.

Look at the bright sides of humanity, the world is a large place, there is going to be justice and injustices, suffering and prospering. When you see the worst of the worst, there will always be the brightest of the bright somewhere. It will just take time but the good can eventually outnumber the bad.

I cherish the possibility of that. Taking away humanities' will and choice to eventually achieve this would is just wrong.
read the last part


Ψ Veritas Ψ said:
I have always believed that the only way to change humanity permanently is through science, namely genetics, our nature that leads to our own demise is written in our genes, changing the source of our corruption will be the cause of our salvation, therefore I study Genetics, therefore I will become a Geneticist, but time is of the essence, and I being only a human am not sure I have enough time to make a difference.
 
Last edited:

valandil988

Active member
Regular
Joined
Nov 21, 2012
Messages
1,077
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
@ Ψ Veritas Ψ Fight for the living, remember the dead. That is all you should concern yourself with. Anything else is pure complication.

Emotions are both a source of perceived meaning and a catalyst for conflict.

The only way human kind will ever change is if its forced upon them. Don't believe for a second if you ever came up with some retro virus that might fix the Human condition that it would be used. People fear everything different, not to mention Human kind survives on this earth because they are bastards take away these ugly instincts and feelings and you neuter the Human race.

The key to advancing humans is not simply cutting away all that is ugly and undesirable. Everything has its part to play in the human psyche, every emotion has its place. The fact that these emotions have become our masters is what I find undesirable. Emotions are survival tools at their most basic. They tell us all sorts of things, and motivate us in directions that attempt to ensure survival. It is when powerful emotions like greed go out of control that they stray off the path of being useful and become a threat rather than a boon.

Ultimately it would require someone to force a path on humanity as a whole because Humanity will never choose if everyone is given a voice. However what should change for this new human is a mystery.

But I do know to ensure the continued survival and the will to survive you need emotions to give people a delusion of meaning. Without it human civilization collapses over night.

Truthfully I believe that less emotional Humanity could go just as wrong as the current one. So I am at an impasse on what I believe would logically work.

Connecting everyone would just cause us to lose what we currently value. Taking away emotions or deadening them would slow advance and progress to a crawl, simply because nobody would care anymore.

Is it possible to enhance human "willpower" alter it so people are more willful? Would that work? Or would that simply polarize opinions and make arguments all the more fierce.

Truly I have to say that I am finding it very difficult to see how I would "improve" the human condition. Everything has a purpose and if you change one thing you start another problem elsewhere. Is it possible to alter how "empathic" people are. IE how much people will naturally sympathize with others? That could possibly work.
 
Last edited:

Ψ Veritas Ψ

Banned
Elite
Joined
Dec 20, 2012
Messages
6,246
Kin
0💸
Kumi
0💴
Trait Points
0⚔️
@ Ψ Veritas Ψ Fight for the living, remember the dead. That is all you should concern yourself with. Anything else is pure complication.

Emotions are both a source of perceived meaning and a catalyst for conflict.

The only way human kind will ever change is if its forced upon them. Don't believe for a second if you ever came up with some retro virus that might fix the Human condition that it would be used. People fear everything different, not to mention Human kind survives on this earth because they are bastards take away these ugly instincts and feelings and you neuter the Human race.

The key to advancing humans is not simply cutting away all that is ugly and undesirable. Everything has its part to play in the human psyche, every emotion has its place. The fact that these emotions have become our masters is what I find undesirable. Emotions are survival tools at their most basic. They tell us all sorts of things, and motivate us in directions that attempt to ensure survival. It is when powerful emotions like greed go out of control that they stray off the path of being useful and become a threat rather than a boon.

Ultimately it would require someone to force a path on humanity as a whole because Humanity will never choose if everyone is given a voice. However what should change for this new human is a mystery.

But I do know to ensure the continued survival and the will to survive you need emotions to give people a delusion of meaning. Without it human civilization collapses over night.

Truthfully I believe that less emotional Humanity could go just as wrong as the current one. So I am at an impasse on what I believe would logically work.

Connecting everyone would just cause us to lose what we currently value. Taking away emotions or deadening them would slow advance and progress to a crawl, simply because nobody would care anymore.

Is it possible to enhance human "willpower" alter it so people are more willful? Would that work? Or would that simply polarize opinions and make arguments all the more fierce.

Truly I have to say that I am finding it very difficult to see how I would "improve" the human condition. Everything has a purpose and if you change one thing you start another problem elsewhere. Is it possible to alter how "empathic" people are. IE how much people will naturally sympathize with others? That could possibly work.
I like your thoughts, but they do not provide an addition to my own, these thoughts of yours I have come across and provided numerous solutions already years ago, no offense but if you are gonna provide a counter argument please provide one of immeasureable depth, that I might find new and worthy of answering.

I apologize for wasting your time.

 
Last edited:
Top