[Discussion] BB isnt really a bad guy

[Tomato God]

From what we saw at mock town he i just being a pirate. And fairly decent one at that. He even went as far as to compliment his enemies.

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Then he went on as far as to encourage his enemies.

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Although BB tried to kill luffy it means nothing. Simply the point of this thread is to show how we take moral stances on characters when most of the time they are just Chaotic neutral (Most Pirates) or Chaotic Good (Most Marines) Or a huge dick (Akainu).

Black beard isn't a bad guy he is just chaotic neutral doing what he wants when he wants because he dreams big.

 

[U mAd]

any one who kills their fellow crewmate and flee's the ship's is a bad guy

 

[Tomato God]

any one who kills their fellow crewmate and flee's the ship's is a bad guy

I didnt say he was a good guy. Just not a bad guy by pirate standards. And if we are tallying up sins luffy robbed people after saving them and also zoro killed 100 people in one night.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

I didnt say he was a good guy. Just not a bad guy by pirate standards. And if we are tallying up sins luffy robbed people after saving them and also zoro killed 100 people in one night.

Robbing a few gold that the Skypieans didn't even know was there from the giant snake in Skypiea isn't really a crime, especially since they just saved Skypiea.

 

[juju15]

Luffy also released prisoners from hail and caused a lot more the escape. It doesn't matter because Luffy is a freaking Pirate.

 

[Corgi]

Uh no, he's a bad guy. He killed people, broke prisoners out of jail, and is currently mass-murdering Devil Fruit eaters. He's taken WB's territory, which probably means the people there are under some harsh overseeing.

Hitler, Saddam, Osama, the Unibomber, they were all "just doing what they wanted to" as well.

 

[ultraChalk]

I didnt say he was a good guy. Just not a bad guy by pirate standards. And if we are tallying up sins luffy robbed people after saving them and also zoro killed 100 people in one night.

I believe that even pirates have a code of respecting their crew, in a rough/brotherly way.

Real pirates didn't kill their crew unless they committed a super bad crime, like if they were selling information to other ships, hogging all of the booty, or killed one of their other crew, challenged the captain and stuff like that

I do believe he is a bad guy.

 

[Fireplay]

Lel, BB is a bad guy. He tried to kill Luffy, killed WB, killed his own comrade etc. Even in pirate standards thats evil

Not to mention you just said that "BB is just being a pirates". Newsflash, pirates rape, rob and kill people. They are bad guys lmao.

Go tell Hitler " you weren't a bad guy, you're just being a Nazi".

 

[Olorin]

Blackbeard is a bad guy, he ravaged Drum island, he uses underhanded tactics to get what he wants (killed Thatch, his arrival at MF, him becoming a Shichibukai, ...), he has been portrayed as the only major antagonist that could be characterised as a "villain", ...

He is a typical pirate but a typical pirate was a bad guy, kt's the other pirates that aren't typical pirates (at least when compared to what our history sees as pirates)

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Being a pirate in itself is a pretty bad thing to do...even just a normal one....

 

[Tomato God]

Uh no, he's a bad guy. He killed people, broke prisoners out of jail, and is currently mass-murdering Devil Fruit eaters. He's taken WB's territory, which probably means the people there are under some harsh overseeing.

Bar and hold the last two luffy/Zoro has done both

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Bar and hold the last two luffy/Zoro has done both

Wtf? Luffy and Zoro never kill their opponents or harm innocent citizens.

 

[Red Swag]

i think bb is really a bad guy

 

[Tomato God]

Wtf? Luffy and Zoro never kill their opponents or harm innocent citizens.

Whiskey peak Zoro murdered 100 men. From little kids to nuns. And his excuse was he wasnt a saint.
And the only reason BB got into impel down was because of luffy.


I am just saying in a world of pirates where you can find worse people. Like Ceasar who ruins peoples lives Comparatively he isnt that bad

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Whiskey peak Zoro murdered 100 men. From little kids to nuns. And his excuse was he wasnt a saint.
And the only reason BB got into impel down was because of luffy.


I am just saying in a world of pirates where you can find worse people. Like Ceasar who ruins peoples lives Comparatively he isnt that bad

Those 100 people probably survived and they were planning to murder the SHs, that was self defense. BB would have gotten in without Luffy, BB only became a Shichibukai so that he could break into Impel Down and get strong crew members and if Luffy didn't go to Impel Down BB would have still gone.

 

[Tomato God]

Those 100 people probably survived and they were planning to murder the SHs, that was self defense. BB would have gotten in without Luffy, BB only became a Shichibukai so that he could break into Impel Down and get strong crew members and if Luffy didn't go to Impel Down BB would have still gone.

Nah Tashigi told Smoker Zoro got his bounty because they were all dead. Not defeated. Murdered.

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She said defeated Daz bones. He slaughtered all of the people at Whiskey peak. Men women and children.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Nah Tashigi told Smoker Zoro got his bounty because they were all dead. Not defeated. Murdered.

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She said defeated Daz bones. He slaughtered all of the people at Whiskey peak. Men women and children.

So I guess you are just going to ignore that fact that they were planning to murder the SHs and Zoro was just defending himself and his nakama. By your logic if a gang attacks you and plans to kill you, you are a bad person if you kill them to defend yourself.

 

[Tomato God]

So I guess you are just going to ignore that fact that they were planning to murder the SHs and Zoro was just defending himself and his nakama. By your logic if a gang attacks you and plans to kill you, you are a bad person if you kill them to defend yourself.

Only if you ignore the fact that there was women and children among their ranks. Zoro isnt a bad person for murder. But by your logic without knowing the cercumstances of BB's "killings" We auto know he is a bad guy.
Zoro Can kill = Good
BB can kill =\= good

Luffy can break out prisoners for his own advantages = Good
BB can break out prisoners for his own advantages =/= good

Luffy can dream big with crazy schemes beating up anyone in his way = Good
BB can dream big with crazy schemes beating up anyone in his way =/= Good

Luffy can hurt people to take what He wants = Good
BB Can hurt people to take what he wants =/= good.


Really double standards.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

Only if you ignore the fact that there was women and children among their ranks. Zoro isnt a bad person for murder. But by your logic without knowing the cercumstances of BB's "killings" We auto know he is a bad guy.
Zoro Can kill = Good
BB can kill =\= good

Luffy can break out prisoners for his own advantages = Good
BB can break out prisoners for his own advantages =/= good

Luffy can dream big with crazy schemes beating up anyone in his way = Good
BB can dream big with crazy schemes beating up anyone in his way =/= Good

Luffy can hurt people to take what He wants = Good
BB Can hurt people to take what he wants =/= good.


Really double standards.

Those "innocent" women and children were trying to murder Zoro, he had every right to "kill" them. BB broke out evil prisoners while Luffy tried to break out Ace and broke out Jinbe and Bon Clay, both of which were good guys at the time. Luffy only beats up people who attack his crew or do stuff that are obviously evil. Luffy only hurts bad guys and the only thing he took was some gold that the Skypieans didn't even know was there and would never have used and I doubt any of them would look through the snake for ancient gold.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Those "innocent" women and children were trying to murder Zoro, he had every right to "kill" them. BB broke out evil prisoners while Luffy tried to break out Ace and broke out Jinbe and Bon Clay, both of which were good guys at the time. Luffy only beats up people who attack his crew or do stuff that are obviously evil. Luffy only hurts bad guys and the only thing he took was some gold that the Skypieans didn't even know was there and would never have used and I doubt any of them would look through the snake for ancient gold.

ALL prisoners are evil....luffy let a warship full of people out.....