battle with pain

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  • Naruto will not fight pain, and konoha will win

    Votes: 14 32.6%
  • Naruto will not fight pain, and konoha will fail

    Votes: 11 25.6%
  • Naruto will fight pain, and konoha wins

    Votes: 13 30.2%
  • Naruto will fight pain, and konoha loses

    Votes: 5 11.6%

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I made this thread to describe why I think that naruto will NOT fight with pain, and also why konoha will be able to defeat pain without the help of pain.



I think Naruto will not fight pain, reasons being is naruto has no way to get back to konoha, or even knowing **** about what is going on there. that automaticely makes it impossible for him to get back. but wait I also have other things I would also like to mention about why he won't fight pain.

the first reason, Sasuke. Sasuke is a revenge driven insane maniac, the entire manga is about naruto vs sasuke, with them being opposite to each other. pain killed naruto's sensei, this gives naruto a reason to kill pain for revenge, so if they ever fight, naruto will still try to kill him for the sake of revenge. therefor if naruto tries to go up against pain, naruto will become EXACTLY like sasuke, a revenge driven child.

Now to make a discussion on why Konoha WON"T need naruto to defeat pain.

1)konoha is stronger than you think.
Konoha has some very powerfull and usefull shinobi. so far the only ones we have seen take part in the battle are: choza, kakashi, choji, 1-2 random chuunin, and sakura. so far choza has been killed and kakashi has been defeated. and all sakura has done has destroyed a summoning and is still raring to go.

Think about ALL of the shinobi in konoha. You have people like ino, shikimaru, neji, lee, kuranai, kiba, and shino. and that isn't even all of them, Konoha has Some EXTREMELY strong shinobi, and we barely seen any of them yet.

2)INFORMATION
Konoha, and konoha shinobi have like SO much information gathered on pain, and are already gathering more information. the reason why J-man dies was because he didn't know pains secret. Konoha is so close to finding it out it isn't even funny, at this rate pains secret will be revealed and suddenly defeating him seems alot easier.

3)Teamwork
We all know how it is pretty much impossible to go one on one with pain, not even j-man was able to beat pain. But Konoha IS NOT just one shinobi. it is made up of SEVERAL shinobi, which team up on the pain bodies, allowing for better strategies, and by isolating the pain bodies with different shinobi, all of the sudden pain can't do teamwork with himself. and he becomes that much weaker with the bodies having to work by themselves.

4)pain already 1/6 defeated
Pain already has the missile realm completely used up in the fight with kakashi. there is nothing it can do now, this means no more missiles. which means that no more super weapons of mass destruction to use on konoha, so konoha already has a much greater chance.

5)LIGHTNING SHINOBI.
the lightning shinobi are also trying to reach konoha to deliver a message. this means that if they arrive during the attack they can also help protect konoha from pain.




this is what I think, and feel free to add information on why you think this might possibly happen, even if you don't actually agree with it.
 

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i total agree wit u..
and danzo (creepy guy) also realised it. thats y he is not lettin the anbu to help.. bcoz all the tough shinobis will fight pain.. and once they r tired.. he will attack wit rested and charged up anbu against the weakened and tired shinobis
 

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i total agree wit u..
and danzo (creepy guy) also realised it. thats y he is not lettin the anbu to help.. bcoz all the tough shinobis will fight pain.. and once they r tired.. he will attack wit rested charged up anbu against the weakened, tired shinobis
Thank you, and then once Danzou tries to take over, naruto will be finished his training and will come back to find the destroyed village and danzou in charge, then naruto will kick danzou's ***.
 

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I like your thread, and I don't know how to vote. Actually I don't want Naruto to come back now to fight Pain, I want him to come later when everything is done. Also I think Naruto should learn at least shunshin jutsu, cause Sasuke is too fast for him and Naruto is too slow ( I know this is of topic but I had to let it out). And Kurenai ca't fight, she is pregnant.:D
 

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i have a small theory that i've been thinking about lately. what if (since pein has already lost demon realm) he also loses god realm. What if he then uses J-Man (new God) and Itachi (new Demon)? then sasuke and naruto fight pein together? (i know its a long shot)
 

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naruto will not fight and konoha will win :D becuse naruto isnt coming and i think everyones gona try to do something but konoha cant fail i mean thats where all the story is
 

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i understand what your trying to say. BUT the show is called naruto and i believe naruto will fight pein and not out of revenge but because he wants to be closer to sasuke's strength. Naruto's character is not a revenge driven manic he is too happy for that. he wants to defeat pein because. If you watch when he was talking about avenging j-man there was no anger in his face or anything. No about konoha i believe they can take pein on BUT none of there sensei's were killed but pein. naruto will defeat pein thats what i think. But i see what your trying to say
 

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I made this thread to describe why I think that naruto will NOT fight with pain, and also why konoha will be able to defeat pain without the help of pain.



I think Naruto will not fight pain, reasons being is naruto has no way to get back to konoha, or even knowing **** about what is going on there. that automaticely makes it impossible for him to get back. but wait I also have other things I would also like to mention about why he won't fight pain.

the first reason, Sasuke. Sasuke is a revenge driven insane maniac, the entire manga is about naruto vs sasuke, with them being opposite to each other. pain killed naruto's sensei, this gives naruto a reason to kill pain for revenge, so if they ever fight, naruto will still try to kill him for the sake of revenge. therefor if naruto tries to go up against pain, naruto will become EXACTLY like sasuke, a revenge driven child.

Now to make a discussion on why Konoha WON"T need naruto to defeat pain.

1)konoha is stronger than you think.
Konoha has some very powerfull and usefull shinobi. so far the only ones we have seen take part in the battle are: choza, kakashi, choji, 1-2 random chuunin, and sakura. so far choza has been killed and kakashi has been defeated. and all sakura has done has destroyed a summoning and is still raring to go.

Think about ALL of the shinobi in konoha. You have people like ino, shikimaru, neji, lee, kuranai, kiba, and shino. and that isn't even all of them, Konoha has Some EXTREMELY strong shinobi, and we barely seen any of them yet.

2)INFORMATION
Konoha, and konoha shinobi have like SO much information gathered on pain, and are already gathering more information. the reason why J-man dies was because he didn't know pains secret. Konoha is so close to finding it out it isn't even funny, at this rate pains secret will be revealed and suddenly defeating him seems alot easier.

3)Teamwork
We all know how it is pretty much impossible to go one on one with pain, not even j-man was able to beat pain. But Konoha IS NOT just one shinobi. it is made up of SEVERAL shinobi, which team up on the pain bodies, allowing for better strategies, and by isolating the pain bodies with different shinobi, all of the sudden pain can't do teamwork with himself. and he becomes that much weaker with the bodies having to work by themselves.

4)pain already 1/6 defeated
Pain already has the missile realm completely used up in the fight with kakashi. there is nothing it can do now, this means no more missiles. which means that no more super weapons of mass destruction to use on konoha, so konoha already has a much greater chance.

5)LIGHTNING SHINOBI.
the lightning shinobi are also trying to reach konoha to deliver a message. this means that if they arrive during the attack they can also help protect konoha from pain.

this is what I think, and feel free to add information on why you think this might possibly happen, even if you don't actually agree with it.
Naruto is not returning for this fight. He has no clue that the fight is taking place, and Konoha has no way of alerting him since it takes a month to get there and is not possible to find the mountain, aside from Jiraiya. Naruto is also not mentally ready (i.e. mature) to fight Pein. His jutsu also don't suit fighting inside of Konoha. They are extremely powerful and destructive.

I don't doubt Konoha's strength, but I think it's their diversity that makes them so strong and difficult for Pein. Pein will have to face Tsunade's healing slugs, Sakura's healing and strength, Hyuuga, Aburame, Kiba's clan, Shikamaru's genius, etc. There's also teamwork as you said in [3]. Pein's bodies are so difficult because each one is different than the other aside from the Rinnegan.

I agree that information is the key, but it will take someone like Shikamaru to integrate it and formulate a plan.

I don't believe the Lightning shinobi are a factor at all. They don't seem elite compared to Konoha's chounin even. Granted I have not seen their true abilities yet. Also, who's to say they arrive in time.

In the end I'm kind of on the border. Naruto will not return. Konoha as we know it will fall, but I think that the village and many key shinobi will survive. We will see another rebuilding process like we did after Orochimaru. This way I ride the fence on that issue.
 

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does anyone know about gut feelings. gut feelings are when you just know something in your heart. if naruto gets a feeling that something is wrong in konoha he might go back just to check on things. but we still have to wait and see. about the lightning ninjas i dont think ninjas being training by the 8tails himself would be weak
 

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He will get revenge for Jiraiya by defeating Pain, saving Konoha in the process.

I think Naruto will get there late and fight the last remaining bodies, then realize the secret behind Pain and locate/kill Negato or whoever ends up being in control of all the bodies.

It wouldn't be right if he and Tsunade didn't kill a few bodies and get even for the sickest Sannin + coolest ninja in Naruto.
 
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