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*Luffy walks in and creates a throne of bones*
*creates a small chair and a desk for you*

Sit down and start taking nows.

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Alright.
Let's start with a few questions first.

What's the worst thing that can happen to you in battle?
Name like 2-3 things.
 

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  • i could get caught in a genjutsu that restrains my movements
  • get hit by some sage jutsu that you can't even see(dan did this to me)
  • someone facing me activates EIG or MS(never happened before.but i don't know how i would deal with such a situation)
 

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  • i could get caught in a genjutsu that restrains my movements
  • get hit by some sage jutsu that you can't even see(dan did this to me)
  • someone facing me activates EIG or MS(never happened before.but i don't know how i would deal with such a situation)

Okey, what I had in mind was, getting caught off guard, or getting attacked by something you cannot defend against.

You have two bios. You got to know all the weaknesses of your bios, and get rid of them.

Take my Luffy bio for example.
His first and biggest weakness was: No sensory ability what so ever. So I had a lot of blind spots. Someone could just pop up behind me and slice my throat.
What'd I do? Well at first I used chakra sensing rain, chakra sensing rain has a lot of weaknesses as well, so one can easily avoid it.
Next I learned sound from Nero, and used the inner sonar skill. But it still wasn't strong enough sensory ability, because it couldn't detect opponents underground, or opponents that are moving really fast. So I upgraded it, created a CJ. Which is one of my most precious custom jutsus. I made sure my technique didn't have any blind spots or weaknesses.

So the foremost and most important thing is to get rid of all your blind spots. Never get caught off guard.

On my Kiyoshi bio, I already had the kiyoshis ability to sense energy, so I didn't have to worry about that there.

Now for the ones you mentioned:
A genjutsu that restricts your movement. Well it might restrict your movement, but it doesn't restrict your chakra circulation. So you can use a burst of chakra to get out of it.

Because you cannot see it, doesn't mean you cannot defend against it. You can feel it right? That's enough. Those are tricky to defend against, when you feel it, it's already harming you, so that means you wouldn't have time to do a jutsu that requires a lot of handseals to defend against it, but if you use a quick jutsu to defend against it, you can continue the battle with minimal damage from it.

MS and EIG have always been tricky to defend against. But luckily the opponent cannot keep spamming it against you. MS exhausts the opponent after 1-2 uses, so if you are able to defend against it, you'll be ahead. EIG only lasts for 3 turns, and it also exhaust the opponent a great deal, depending on how many gates opened. The clue about fighting MS is to stay out of sight. If they see you, your dead :p MS is doujutsu, eye technique. If they cannot see you, it's pretty useless (with the exception of susanoo, but you just need to stay away from him, should be easy, don't get too far off the ground, and just use hurricane fist or some other technique that makes it easier for you to dodge its strikes.)

When fighting against EIG, even if you cannot keep track of their movement, doesn't mean you cannot defend against it before it happens.
EIGs weakness is: No ninjutsu above C rank. That's what you gotto take advantage of. Using EIG gives you some pretty strong jutsus, but if they cannot reach you, for example, if you go deep underground and build a fortress under there, you'd be safe. For example, as the opponent is opening his gates, you quickly use hiding like a mole technique, which enables you to dig really fast, and then, go deep underground. Since you are actually displacing the earth around you, you should have some oxygen supply. And when you reach deep enough, you quicly use, Nagashi to destroy the earth around you and use some earth dome or something, for example. To do this properly, you'd need a sensory ability, so you'd know what ur opponent was doing above ground, since a strong punch can create earthquake, so if you have sensory ability, you'll know when to use nagashi.
Just an example.

Got it?
 

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Okey, what I had in mind was, getting caught off guard, or getting attacked by something you cannot defend against.

You have two bios. You got to know all the weaknesses of your bios, and get rid of them.

Take my Luffy bio for example.
His first and biggest weakness was: No sensory ability what so ever. So I had a lot of blind spots. Someone could just pop up behind me and slice my throat.
What'd I do? Well at first I used chakra sensing rain, chakra sensing rain has a lot of weaknesses as well, so one can easily avoid it.
Next I learned sound from Nero, and used the inner sonar skill. But it still wasn't strong enough sensory ability, because it couldn't detect opponents underground, or opponents that are moving really fast. So I upgraded it, created a CJ. Which is one of my most precious custom jutsus. I made sure my technique didn't have any blind spots or weaknesses.

So the foremost and most important thing is to get rid of all your blind spots. Never get caught off guard.

On my Kiyoshi bio, I already had the kiyoshis ability to sense energy, so I didn't have to worry about that there.

Now for the ones you mentioned:
A genjutsu that restricts your movement. Well it might restrict your movement, but it doesn't restrict your chakra circulation. So you can use a burst of chakra to get out of it.

Because you cannot see it, doesn't mean you cannot defend against it. You can feel it right? That's enough. Those are tricky to defend against, when you feel it, it's already harming you, so that means you wouldn't have time to do a jutsu that requires a lot of handseals to defend against it, but if you use a quick jutsu to defend against it, you can continue the battle with minimal damage from it.

MS and EIG have always been tricky to defend against. But luckily the opponent cannot keep spamming it against you. MS exhausts the opponent after 1-2 uses, so if you are able to defend against it, you'll be ahead. EIG only lasts for 3 turns, and it also exhaust the opponent a great deal, depending on how many gates opened. The clue about fighting MS is to stay out of sight. If they see you, your dead :p MS is doujutsu, eye technique. If they cannot see you, it's pretty useless (with the exception of susanoo, but you just need to stay away from him, should be easy, don't get too far off the ground, and just use hurricane fist or some other technique that makes it easier for you to dodge its strikes.)

When fighting against EIG, even if you cannot keep track of their movement, doesn't mean you cannot defend against it before it happens.
EIGs weakness is: No ninjutsu above C rank. That's what you gotto take advantage of. Using EIG gives you some pretty strong jutsus, but if they cannot reach you, for example, if you go deep underground and build a fortress under there, you'd be safe. For example, as the opponent is opening his gates, you quickly use hiding like a mole technique, which enables you to dig really fast, and then, go deep underground. Since you are actually displacing the earth around you, you should have some oxygen supply. And when you reach deep enough, you quicly use, Nagashi to destroy the earth around you and use some earth dome or something, for example. To do this properly, you'd need a sensory ability, so you'd know what ur opponent was doing above ground, since a strong punch can create earthquake, so if you have sensory ability, you'll know when to use nagashi.
Just an example.

Got it?

yes ....and i have an uchiha bio which allows me to keep track of my opponent underground also..the only trouble could be shadow clones and mist..this helps a lot mugi...and i do feel like i need to create some customs to help my other bio(no special ability) ...whats next sensei
 

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yes ....and i have an uchiha bio which allows me to keep track of my opponent underground also..the only trouble could be shadow clones and mist..this helps a lot mugi...and i do feel like i need to create some customs to help my other bio(no special ability) ...whats next sensei

well sharingan isn't going to help you against opponents that sneak up behind you.
 

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well sharingan isn't going to help you against opponents that sneak up behind you.

yes...i know that.... i'm going to create a custom mode with lili sensei...(for our marten summoning) if that works...that is,otherwise..i could use chakra sensing rain as you mentioned..
 

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yes...i know that.... i'm going to create a custom mode with lili sensei...(for our marten summoning) if that works...that is,otherwise..i could use chakra sensing rain as you mentioned..

well its a start...
 

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well sense,i may need your help for some cj i have in mind...whats next?

well, I won't help you with the CJ.

Next is just some random stuff.
When you are making your move, make sure the description is flawless.
And make sure you don't leave periods of time between your moves where your opponent can attack you. For example, you don't usually want to start your battle off by creating shadow clones, while you are creating shadow clones, the opponent attacks you all. So you want to use supplementary jutsus when the opponent is falling behind.

You want to be on the offensive the whole time, you don't want to start defending against the opponents fireball with a water wall. You either attack, or counter-attack.

The moment you go on the defensive, you're already falling behind.
What you want is, to have the opponent try and defend against your moves again and again. If your opponent does a counter attack, if the opponents attack takes some time to travel against you, what you might want to do is for example, create earth spikes below the opponent, and then fire off a jutsu to defend against his counter attack.(if you have time, before his attack reaches you), so while you are defending against his jutsu, he is defending against you spikes. This way, you don't fall behind in terms of the battle.
 

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well, I won't help you with the CJ.

Next is just some random stuff.
When you are making your move, make sure the description is flawless.
And make sure you don't leave periods of time between your moves where your opponent can attack you. For example, you don't usually want to start your battle off by creating shadow clones, while you are creating shadow clones, the opponent attacks you all. So you want to use supplementary jutsus when the opponent is falling behind.

You want to be on the offensive the whole time, you don't want to start defending against the opponents fireball with a water wall. You either attack, or counter-attack.

The moment you go on the defensive, you're already falling behind.
What you want is, to have the opponent try and defend against your moves again and again. If your opponent does a counter attack, if the opponents attack takes some time to travel against you, what you might want to do is for example, create earth spikes below the opponent, and then fire off a jutsu to defend against his counter attack.(if you have time, before his attack reaches you), so while you are defending against his jutsu, he is defending against you spikes. This way, you don't fall behind in terms of the battle.
i'll keep that in mind sensei......
and about ghe cj,i have an idea,but i think its too op.....need your opinion on that,nothing else;)
 
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i'll keep that in mind sensei......
and about ghe cj,i have an idea,but i think its too op.....need your opinion on that,nothing else;)

keep your cj to yourself, I don't want to even see it or hear about it U_U.

Think we should be done. Anything else u wanna learn about battles?
 

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keep your cj to yourself, I don't want to even see it or hear about it U_U.

Think we should be done. Anything else u wanna learn about battles?

so cruel :T_T:
i wanted to ask you this...how can one effectively counter inner sonar skill...if you don't feel like answering that,don't.. and can we do some battle training....try and guide me to counter attacks effectively in a real battle
 

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so cruel :T_T:
i wanted to ask you this...how can one effectively counter inner sonar skill...if you don't feel like answering that,don't.. and can we do some battle training....try and guide me to counter attacks effectively in a real battle

Inner sonar? or my CJ; Advanced inner sonar?
 

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Create something sound proof against me. It really doesn't have much weaknesses. I can hear ANYTHING, enhanced around me, and block out loud noises that I don't need to hear, like explosions.
 

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Create something sound proof against me. It really doesn't have much weaknesses. I can hear ANYTHING, enhanced around me, and block out loud noises that I don't need to hear, like explosions.

ok...thanx mugi....
one cannot make earth pillars(D-rank) to escape swamp jutsu right....i have see many people use it this way...

also what will be good against facing a dark release user??
 

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ok...thanx mugi....
one cannot make earth pillars(D-rank) to escape swamp jutsu right....i have see many people use it this way...

also what will be good against facing a dark release user??

It should be possible, unless one needs to be in contact with the ground to use the earth pillars.

not sure. chop their head off?
 
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