Battle of the Gods

[KingHashirama]

In addition, I'll be glad to debate this instead of it just being a "I vote this lol". That is if we can keep it logical and hate free lol. I'm knowledgeable on all the options and can do research if lacking.

1. Gojeta finishing of Superman in 30 minutes is impossible
2. Superman has the field advantage
3. Superman has more strength
4. Superman is faster
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[Lrrrrr]

Haha, I do think Pre-Crisis Superman would defiantly get second. But He has absolutely nothing on Gogeta SSJ4 lol. I'm sorry, but we're taking things to another level of OP with him. Go ahead, list hi sbest feats, and match them up to what Gogeta could do

But Superman pulls planets! xd Sure, Gogeta can be faster, but if Superman lands a hit on him, then he's going to be hurt pretty bad. Also, he has a super sneeze (which is funny btw). I honestly can't see how Gogeta could beat him, even though he's still strong.

 

[Jobrjo]

Let the friendly debate begin

1. Gojeta finishing of Superman in 30 minutes is impossible
2. Superman has the field advantage
3. Superman has more strength
4. Superman is faster
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1. Please say why. If he is strong enough, Superman has no "I'm invincible for 30 minutes" rule. The question is, rather, is he strong enough? I personally am confident of that.
2. How so? I disagree. Both can fly, and Gogeta has far better range. And then the fact that if needed Gogeta can just bow up his surroundings.
3. Haha, no. Not at all. He's defiantly stonger (far so) than I thnk any other comic book character other than some of DBZ.
4. No. He's Speed-of-Light. Raditz was that fast. Gogeta : Raditz :: Cheetah : Rock.
5.Sadly, only the middle appears for me. Image Shack doesn't work on my laptop ;_; So Please post otherwise! And for the middle image that does appear... Superman's strength of being able to pull many planets is nothing to one that can make nothing of the giant masses themselves.

I'd also like to say this. Freiza 1st form could blow up a Planet. Raditz was faster than Light. I'm not even going to get to Power Levels. The fact is with DBZ, is that it got so OP so wuickly, that they couldn't be realistic. Otherwise the Universe would be non-existent by then end of the series. Their speed, strength, and destructive power simply can't be shown but up against one another. Otherwise, what's the fun in seeing a flash for 2 seconds, solar systems exploding, and then a dead villain. Just consider that. It's a fact that the strength they show is contradictory to where it logically is.

But Superman pulls planets! xd Sure, Gogeta can be faster, but if Superman lands a hit on him, then he's going to be hurt pretty bad. Also, he has a super sneeze (which is funny btw). I honestly can't see how Gogeta could beat him, even though he's still strong.

lol, Pulls planets? Sorry sir, but in DBZ anyone Super Saiyan 2+ (or maybe skilled SS1) can take out entire solar systems. Imagine 3 and 4 which are ridicoulously stronger than 2. And Gogeta could take planet-busting punches, and be fine. Just look at Omega Shenron's best. Did nothing. Heck, characters faaaaaar weaker than him took hits faaaaaaar stronger than a plant-destroying attack, and were fine (Goku SSj4, Buu, Frieza, Gohan, and now that I thnk about it over 1/2 the characters). Now, I don't know if Gogeta is immunized. So, hypothetically, a virus from Superman may kill him :O lol watch out for that sneeze xD

 

[SkyUchiha]

Since you're taking Gogeta in here, can't you just take superman before his rework. When he could make his own powers, destroy solar systems with a sneeze and exc.

 

[Jobrjo]

Since you're taking Gogeta in here, can't you just take superman before his rework. When he could make his own powers, destroy solar systems with a sneeze and exc.

That's what pre-crisis is lol. But I don't think he could make his own powers...

 

[KillerMongoose]

Two words, HULK SMASH!

 

[Pervy Wrath]

It's always Superman. As for some people saying Hulk doesn't tire, Superman can just throw him out to space x)

 

[KingHashirama]

Let the friendly debate begin



1. Please say why. If he is strong enough, Superman has no "I'm invincible for 30 minutes" rule. The question is, rather, is he strong enough? I personally am confident of that.
2. How so? I disagree. Both can fly, and Gogeta has far better range. And then the fact that if needed Gogeta can just bow up his surroundings.
3. Haha, no. Not at all. He's defiantly stonger (far so) than I thnk any other comic book character other than some of DBZ.
4. No. He's Speed-of-Light. Raditz was that fast. Gogeta : Raditz :: Cheetah : Rock.
5.Sadly, only the middle appears for me. Image Shack doesn't work on my laptop ;_; So Please post otherwise! And for the middle image that does appear... Superman's strength of being able to pull many planets is nothing to one that can make nothing of the giant masses themselves.

I'd also like to say this. Freiza 1st form could blow up a Planet. Raditz was faster than Light. I'm not even going to get to Power Levels. The fact is with DBZ, is that it got so OP so wuickly, that they couldn't be realistic. Otherwise the Universe would be non-existent by then end of the series. Their speed, strength, and destructive power simply can't be shown but up against one another. Otherwise, what's the fun in seeing a flash for 2 seconds, solar systems exploding, and then a dead villain. Just consider that. It's a fact that the strength they show is contradictory to where it logically is.

lol, Pulls planets? Sorry sir, but in DBZ anyone Super Saiyan 2+ (or maybe skilled SS1) can take out entire solar systems. Imagine 3 and 4 which are ridicoulously stronger than 2. And Gogeta could take planet-busting punches, and be fine. Just look at Omega Shenron's best. Did nothing. Heck, characters faaaaaar weaker than him took hits faaaaaaar stronger than a plant-destroying attack, and were fine (Goku SSj4, Buu, Frieza, Gohan, and now that I thnk about it over 1/2 the characters). Now, I don't know if Gogeta is immunized. So, hypothetically, a virus from Superman may kill him :O lol watch out for that sneeze xD

1. Gojeta strength feats.. show them please.

2. When sayains can travel through space, without the use of a rocket or a space craft.. then say Gojeta has a far better range

3. Feats for dbz character strengths.. lmao.

4. Raditz and etc are not the speed of light... Only thing close is Goku's I.T. and Raditz is FTL according to piccollo's assumption? ;d cause feat wise hes slower then some of the one piece , Naruto and Bleach people. Who aren't faster then light.

5. Well can't do anything about it then mate.

So far this is all feats based. And what is directly stated in their respective comics/manga. Not assumptions made by other characters in that manga. So taking that into consideration lets talk about the flaws in what you posted.

- Can anyone Dbz take on the impact of 5,000+ star explosions on the head? no.

You compare KI energy to pure strength.. it doesn't add up. KI attacks can be easily dodged with Superman's speed. But what is Gojeta gonna do if Superman decides to burn their brain parts internally?

 

[Lrrrrr]

Two words, HULK SMASH!

Aha, Hulk does smash. But he would get smashed by Pre-Crises Superman xd

It's always Superman. As for some people saying Hulk doesn't tire, Superman can just throw him out to space x)

True lol. But Hulk is still strong.

 

[Pervy Wrath]

True lol. But Hulk is still strong.

That's true! But he can't fly, doesn't have ice breath, HE CAN'T EVEN SHOOT LASERS OUT OF HIS EYES!!! Haha

 

[Lrrrrr]

That's true! But he can't fly, doesn't have ice breath, HE CAN'T EVEN SHOOT LASERS OUT OF HIS EYES!!! Haha

Just noticed your name, GoT is epic!! xd And are you talking about Hulk or Superman? xd

 

[Pervy Wrath]

Just noticed your name, GoT is epic!! xd And are you talking about Hulk or Superman? xd

It's AWESOME! Have you tried reading the books? It's impossible to remember all the names. Hehe, I was talking about Superman

 

[LordRaikage]

gogeta wins end of thread

 

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Gogeta's pet is God.

 

[Lrrrrr]

It's AWESOME! Have you tried reading the books? It's impossible to remember all the names. Hehe, I was talking about Superman

No lol, only watching the show xd March 31st No spoilers! >.< Lol jk. It sometimes is lol. Oh okay, aha.

gogeta wins end of thread

Mind backing up with proof?

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Gogeta's pet is God.

And Pre-Crises Superman's pet is Gogeta.

 

[-Raviel-]

The hulk cannot be beaten..................gogeta's fusion will wear off after a few minutes

 

[Jobrjo]

1. Gojeta strength feats.. show them please.

2. When sayains can travel through space, without the use of a rocket or a space craft.. then say Gojeta has a far better range

3. Feats for dbz character strengths.. lmao.

4. Raditz and etc are not the speed of light... Only thing close is Goku's I.T. and Raditz is FTL according to piccollo's assumption? ;d cause feat wise hes slower then some of the one piece , Naruto and Bleach people. Who aren't faster then light.

5. Well can't do anything about it then mate.

So far this is all feats based. And what is directly stated in their respective comics/manga. Not assumptions made by other characters in that manga. So taking that into consideration lets talk about the flaws in what you posted.

- Can anyone Dbz take on the impact of 5,000+ star explosions on the head? no.

You compare KI energy to pure strength.. it doesn't add up. KI attacks can be easily dodged with Superman's speed. But what is Gojeta gonna do if Superman decides to burn their brain parts internally?

1. You need to understand, in DBZ there isn't much showing of strngth. It's mostly just ki and speed etc. And then you have things where pre-super-sayian fights occur, and craters appear from blows, and then the same happens with post-ssj4 fights. That doesn't add up. As I said, DBZ quickyl got to the points where the OPness literally couldn' be read or watched, so things just sorta stayed at a flat rate instead of realistic. However, they are there, but you can't list them the way you can Suprman's anyway because of their nature. It's not like "look, I'm carrying all this weight" as it is with Superman. But you can Google several well done calculations and such. Just use Google I just saw a few myself.
2. Flight in itself is the act of defying gravity to lift oneself. In fact, Saiyans have been seen fighting in Space (Bardock). And seeing how the lower gravity, the faster they can move, theoretically they'd be even faster in space. Remember, DBZ people fly via Ki energy, which comes from within. They literally maneuver themselves by using their own energy. That isn't effected by space or not, in fact it'd make it easier.
3. See 1.
4. I think Piccolo knows how fast his attack is lol. Plus, we see throughout the series characters fighting at speeds un-seeable to the human eye.
5. yeah .-.
And let's not forget all that Gogeta has, like Ki attacks over 5,000 star explosions (Cell can take out a Solar System which is -10, and base Goku beat an imoortal Cell and Frieza.)

ANyway guys, I got to go for tonight! Looking forward to tomarrrow's Magna

 

[Waltz]

Pre-crisis Superman/Gogeta...but gogeta has a time limit so. PC Superman.

 

[ThatGuyOvaThere]

People must not know that pre-crisis superman is the strongest form superman. He plays baseball with planets and takes a nap on the sun afterwards. In Dbz no one could ever with-stand being on the sun.

 

[Pervy Wrath]

No lol, only watching the show xd March 31st No spoilers! >.< Lol jk. It sometimes is lol. Oh okay, aha.

Hehe, no worries, I stopped reading after about halfway through the 2nd book x) Not really a book person...