Battle of the elements.

[SebastionM]

So I've been thinking of getting the best users from every basic element and putting them against each other. Everything but a kekkei genkai counts.

If they are a kage or have more than one element, they can only use the one assigned to them during battle.

Earth: Onoki

Fire: Madara (non edo)

Water: Tobirama

Lightning: Darui

Wind: Temari

Sand: Gaara...


Area: Open field.
Knowledge: up to war arc.
Intent: kill.

GIVE VALID REASON AS TO WHY THEY WOULD WIN!


If given a better choice I will change the choices of people.

 

[Styles]

madara

 

[Tazzilla88]

So I've been thinking of getting the best users from every basic element and putting them against each other. Everything but a kekkei genkai counts.

If they are a kage or have more than one element, they can only use the one assigned to them during battle.

Earth: Onoki
I see his earth being outpowered by everyone except Madara's fire (fire just isn't a very good element because it has no real force behind it)
Fire: Madara (non edo)
Yeah I don't see him winning with this element alone.( If he has rinnegan's paths demonstrated thus far then perhaps. But I'm assuming he doesn't.) If Tobirama is a better water stylist than Mei (and she extinguished his flames and attacked him with suitons back to back) then Madara is done for against him.
While fire is boosted by wind if the wind is blowing opposite to the fire then logically the fire will be powered up heading in the same direction as the wind
There's no reason oonoki's earth can't block fire.
Water: Tobirama
If Darui sends a current through the lightening while Tobirama is in it, that will pose a serious problem. We don't know much about him but he may be able to counter Gaara's sand and Temari's wind. However because we haven't seen much from him and not the same level of versatility that Gaara has.

Lightning: Darui
Lightning's known to be strong against Earth which would put oonoki and Gaara at a disadvantage. If Darui is using lightning when Tobirama attacks him this will cause a problem.

Wind: Temari
While I don't believe Lightning nor fire pose a large problem to her wind style. Gaara's Sand with gold dust is most likely to heavy to be countered and Tobirama's water may have too much power to be stopped.

Sand: Gaara...
Tobirama would make Gaara's heavy sand heavier. His sand is weak to lightning. The problem everyone has is Gaara's magnitude of attack as seen with Sand Waterfall Imperial Funeral and Sand Hail. The only person who could perhaps match the magnitude is Madara with Fire release great fire annihilation. But Madara has no force behind his element so Gaara's sand would block and attack that. Gaara's element is very versatile and can be controlled in very different ways.

Area: Open field.
Knowledge: up to war arc.
Intent: kill.

GIVE VALID REASON AS TO WHY THEY WOULD WIN!


If given a better choice I will change the choices of people.

So I say Gaara will win. Also Mei has been seen to be able to use Water Dragon jutsu without making 47 hand seals. In addition we know more about her techniques than we do about Tobirama.
I assume they are only using elemental attacks and nothing else but if I'm wrong please correct me.

 

[SebastionM]

So I say Gaara will win. Also Mei has been seen to be able to use Water Dragon jutsu without making 47 hand seals. In addition we know more about her techniques than we do about Tobirama.
I assume they are only using elemental attacks and nothing else but if I'm wrong please correct me.

Your reasons are pretty ****ing valid. XD

I think onoki has a better advantage then you would think.

My main thing would be watching a great water user like mei or tobirama fight someone like madara with just these elements.

Gaara doesn't have much problems with Lightning....Sure he did when fighting Sasuke, but in the movie, he fought a lightning user, and beat her.

I'm not sure how Temari would do against these people, due to the fact we dont see many wind users.

As for gaara's sand being heavy, there are many ways he could get past a water user and beat them.

I deff agree about the Mei thing. She is my fav character. I was planning on putting her for water but people would say he is better since he "mastered" it. Even though She's been shown doing the same thing, only more impressive.

They are using only the elemental attack, as stated in the post.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Your reasons are pretty ****ing valid. XD

I think onoki has a better advantage then you would think.

My main thing would be watching a great water user like mei or tobirama fight someone like madara with just these elements.

Gaara doesn't have much problems with Lightning....Sure he did when fighting Sasuke, but in the movie, he fought a lightning user, and beat her.

I'm not sure how Temari would do against these people, due to the fact we dont see many wind users.

As for gaara's sand being heavy, there are many ways he could get past a water user and beat them.

I deff agree about the Mei thing. She is my fav character. I was planning on putting her for water but people would say he is better since he "mastered" it. Even though She's been shown doing the same thing, only more impressive.

They are using only the elemental attack, as stated in the post.

Oonoki's major advantage was dust element. But he hasn't really done anything impressive with rocks. I mean if his rocks are outforced I don't see what he can do. Sure he can make his rocks heavier but then they won't travel as far. He could make his opponents attacks lighter, but that doesn't neccesary make them less dangerous. A toothpick is extremely light but if it is coming at you extremely fast it could kill you.
The problem is canonically Gaara hasn't really faced lighting since. In theory he may be able to protect himself but black lightning panther is serious business. However, because he has so much sand he could probably make a large enough shield to protect himself.
And in regards to Gaara's sand being slow none of the other fighters really have speed feats so it's a moot point I suppose since they probably wouldn't be able to dodge regardless.

 

[SebastionM]

Oonoki's major advantage was dust element. But he hasn't really done anything impressive with rocks. I mean if his rocks are outforced I don't see what he can do. Sure he can make his rocks heavier but then they won't travel as far. He could make his opponents attacks lighter, but that doesn't neccesary make them less dangerous. A toothpick is extremely light but if it is coming at you extremely fast it could kill you.
The problem is canonically Gaara hasn't really faced lighting since. In theory he may be able to protect himself but black lightning panther is serious business. However, because he has so much sand he could probably make a large enough shield to protect himself.
And in regards to Gaara's sand being slow none of the other fighters really have speed feats so it's a moot point I suppose since they probably wouldn't be able to dodge regardless.

Well, Onoki made that big golem shield. The golem's have been shown for many purposes. And he has some major earth skills. Earth Release: Moving Earth Core is a bad ass move. He can do more than throw rocks obviously.

I don't think the lightning will be that big of a problem for him. It's pretty obvious every great ninja, especially a wise kage, would have thought about their weakness and figure out ways to overcome it.

I don't see how his sand would become slow. Onoki could add weight to is, but he has to be touching it...No way he could touch all his sand.

I would guess Madara is fast, but all we've seen him do it hide behind sussano when in danger.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Well, Onoki made that big golem shield. The golem's have been shown for many purposes. And he has some major earth skills. Earth Release: Moving Earth Core is a bad ass move. He can do more than throw rocks obviously.

I don't think the lightning will be that big of a problem for him. It's pretty obvious every great ninja, especially a wise kage, would have thought about their weakness and figure out ways to overcome it.

I don't see how his sand would become slow. Onoki could add weight to is, but he has to be touching it...No way he could touch all his sand.

I would guess Madara is fast, but all we've seen him do it hide behind sussano when in danger.

I agree with you in most aspects except Oonoki. His Golem technique is based on brute strength as well. Which if overpowered or destroyed becomes harmless. Moving Earth core is pretty good but it's combat applications are limited and against kage level opponents it will not be his saving grace.
Gaara's sand could become heavy in two ways (but I don't think all his sand would be affected and he could always just create more sand) Tobirama can make it heavier (water makes sand and dirt heavier)and Oonoki can make it heavier (with his Earth technique) and Gaara already had Gold in his sand which makes it heavier. But despite the slowdowns it still too much of a force to reckon with for instance Sand Hail is deadly.

 

[SebastionM]

I agree with you in most aspects except Oonoki. His Golem technique is based on brute strength as well. Which if overpowered or destroyed becomes harmless. Moving Earth core is pretty good but it's combat applications are limited and against kage level opponents it will not be his saving grace.
Gaara's sand could become heavy in two ways (but I don't think all his sand would be affected and he could always just create more sand) Tobirama can make it heavier (water makes sand and dirt heavier)and Oonoki can make it heavier (with his Earth technique) and Gaara already had Gold in his sand which makes it heavier. But despite the slowdowns it still too much of a force to reckon with for instance Sand Hail is deadly.

Yea, but how are they going to overpower his golems? Not that it's impossible, but madara isn't going to do it, Temari most likely wont, and Tobirama isn't...

You see that's where most people fail. Gaara's water problem could easily be taken care of. Sand is porous. It's not a solid. As shown, Gaara can space out his sand (when sensing). All he has to do is space out his sand and the water will fall.

Onoki could make it heaver, but he'd have to touch it all. Gaara would already know of his capabilities, and avoid it.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Yea, but how are they going to overpower his golems? Not that it's impossible, but madara isn't going to do it, Temari most likely wont, and Tobirama isn't...

You see that's where most people fail. Gaara's water problem could easily be taken care of. Sand is porous. It's not a solid. As shown, Gaara can space out his sand (when sensing). All he has to do is space out his sand and the water will fall.

Onoki could make it heaver, but he'd have to touch it all. Gaara would already know of his capabilities, and avoid it.

Well Sand Waterfall Imperial Funeral could take care of the Golem. Sand Hail, Succcessive shots sand drizzle, Mei's water dragon def looked big enough to crush the golem. Water Encampment Pillar (Water Encampment Wall in Tobirama's case) could probably stop the golem dead in it's tracks working under the assumption Tobirama is more powerful than Mei. Yeah Madara would be screwed but I admitted that. Darui would probably be in trouble too. But Temari would use Wind Release: Cast Net which cut the 3rd Raikage so should make short work of the Golems.
And I concede to your points about Gaara's sand

 

[SebastionM]

Well Sand Waterfall Imperial Funeral could take care of the Golem. Sand Hail, Succcessive shots sand drizzle, Mei's water dragon def looked big enough to crush the golem. Water Encampment Pillar (Water Encampment Wall in Tobirama's case) could probably stop the golem dead in it's tracks working under the assumption Tobirama is more powerful than Mei. Yeah Madara would be screwed but I admitted that. Darui would probably be in trouble too. But Temari would use Wind Release: Cast Net which cut the 3rd Raikage so should make short work of the Golems.
And I concede to your points about Gaara's sand

True, but odds are that they are not all going to be fighting him at one time.