Base Team 7

[Tonybeeth]

So what, you want to take away Naruto's stamina? His chakra reserves? How does that even work...

Take away his kage bunshins. That's his signature thing, like sasuke's sharingan. That's the least that can be done

 

[Guntah]

Take away his kage bunshins. That's his signature thing, like sasuke's sharingan. That's the least that can be done

No. Strip him off Kagebunshin and you're stripping him of everything but Rasengan. Naruto's entire arsenal revolves around it, while Sasuke has shown to handle himself fairly well without Sharingan, with high speeds, Taijutsu, swordsmanship not to mention his fire and lightning releases. Strip Naruto of his Kagebunshin though and the discussion gets boring.

Plus, I'm not really the one who makes the rules. Base is base, how much characters rely on anything outside from that base is beyond me.

 

[RuckenTM]

If we talking about at that moment:

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Naruto had the strongest base form but overall they were even all three. o-o

 

[Guntah]

If we talking about at that moment:

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Naruto had the strongest base form but overall they were even all three. o-o

That moment, with the only diference being that Naruto can form the one handed Rasengan.

 

[Tonybeeth]

No. Strip him off Kagebunshin and you're stripping him of everything but Rasengan. Naruto's entire arsenal revolves around it, while Sasuke has shown to handle himself fairly well without Sharingan, with high speeds, Taijutsu, swordsmanship not to mention his fire and lightning releases. Strip Naruto of his Kagebunshin though and the discussion gets boring.

Plus, I'm not really the one who makes the rules. Base is base, how much characters rely on anything outside from that base is beyond me.

You're right about one thing. Base is base. Base sasuke is Hebi sasuke without CM. This means he has his sharingan. Stripping sasuke of sharingan strips of of genjutsu, reduces his taijutsu, kenjutsu, and some ninjutsu. Chidori has been said to be more effective with the sharingan. Stripping naruto of kage bunshins takes away his massive attacks, but he has that huge chakra and stamina to keep the original him fighting. Sasuke trained himself around the sharingan, same as naruto trained around his reserves and kage bunshins.

EMS puts him on par with Kyuubi naruto. MS puts him on SM. Taking the basic sharingan is just trying to take as much as possible. He'd still kick ass without it though

 

[Icelerate]

lmao base Sakura couldn't even fight that fodder team from Kumogakure.

That wasn't war arc yin seal Sakura. Sakura without Byakogou and summons is still much stronger and faster than the Sakura you mentioned.

 

[Tyris]

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Who is the strongest opponent Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura respectively can defeat without their respective boosts?

Say we're talking about war arc team 7 pre Rikudo boosts.

Sasuke can't use his Sharingan at all in any of its stages, nor can he use his summons.

Naruto can't use Kurama, (though the chakra he's constantly flowing into Naruto's body can't really be stopped, so lets consider that part of his base) Senjutsu nor his toads.

Sakura can't use Byakugou nor her summons.

Who are the strongest opponents each of them can beat with no knowledge or prep time?

Gtfoh w/ the bias and it's a clean thread imo..

What's wrong with using genetic traits such as the Sharingan?

While byproducts of kurama's forced imprisonment counts towards Naruto's base?

Thts bs lol

Anyways tho:

Raiton variations> rasengan+bunshin>crater/boulder punch

I'd give naruto FRS but w/out kyuubi: No bunshin spam or passive healing means he's not constantly recovering from the cellular damage on his body or chakra network.. nor do I think he'd risk it if not for having Kurama because I'm sure he'd feel the pain & strain prove during training.

Boku no hero comes to mind actually lol with an added effect of cutting off your own chakra usage or w/e with each use..

That's why I find it biased as to me it directly changes his arsenal as does restricting a longtime standing genetic trait.

 

[Guntah]

Gtfoh w/ the bias and it's a clean thread imo..

What's wrong with using genetic traits such as the Sharingan?

While byproducts of kurama's forced imprisonment counts towards Naruto's base?

Thts bs lol

Anyways tho:

Raiton variations> rasengan+bunshin>crater/boulder punch

I'd give naruto FRS but w/out kyuubi passive healing he's not constantly recovering from the cellular damage on his body or chakra network.. nor do I think he'd risk it if not for having Kurama because I'm sure he'd feel the pain & strain prove during training.

Boku no hero comes to mind actually lol with an added effect of cutting off your own chakra usage or w/e with each use..

That's why I find it biased as to me it directly changes his arsenal as does restricting a longtime standing genetic trait.

Can't say much for Naruto becau

Its really not meant to be fair as much as its meant to strike up a discussion.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Base Sakura is who avoided and punched kaguya.
Base Sakura reflexes are superior
Base Sakura can self heal\


Sakura>Sasuke>Naruto

 

[Guntah]

Base Sakura is who avoided and punched kaguya.
Base Sakura reflexes are superior
Base Sakura can self heal\


Sakura>Sasuke>Naruto

This really doesn't answer the question on the thread though....

 

[FemmeFatale]

This really doesn't answer the question on the thread though....

Oh i thought you ask who was the strongest

Sakura can boost one of Sasuke fire attacks, And Naruto can add wind style to it with the rasenshuriken to defeat many top tiers, the attack range would be to vast to avoid.

They are more powerful than Hanzo Sanin at that point.

All in all they are too powerful together even in this weaken state, that can make up for each others weaknesses. Id say they can beat the 6POP

 

[Guntah]

Oh i thought you ask who was the strongest

Sakura can boost one of Sasuke fire attacks, And Naruto can add wind style to it with the rasenshuriken to defeat many top tiers, the attack range would be to vast to avoid.

They are more powerful than Hanzo Sanin at that point.

All in all they are too powerful together even in this weaken state, that can make up for each others weaknesses. Id say they can beat the 6POP

I'm speaking individually.

 

[FemmeFatale]

I'm speaking individually.

For Naruto and Sasuke, no intel is a bad thing, Naruto is lacking in intellect, and Sasuke's sharringan is restricted.
Sakura has the best analytical abilities, so she will determine intel rather quickly, becuase she is the smart one.

Naruto Can create clones and has high stamina, and will probably figure out the oppenents jutsu that way, but Naruto is reckless and he doesn't have
a healing ability, or anything to back him so that would be his downfall.

Sasuke is a little of both even without sharringan he is smart enough to figure things out, but not as quickly as Sakura, and his lack of doujutsu clarity will hender that ability, but he has good stamina like Naruto and can rather information on the enemy by engaging them.


So for Naruto I'd say everyone under Hidan (he loses to hidan 6/10 times),
For Sasuke I'd say anyone 3 tomoe Kakashi can beat, because Sasuke can use Chidori easily in base)
For Sakura I'd say Part2 zabuza, and anyone Below Deva Path.) So kinda the same as Sasuke

 

[Guntah]

So for Naruto I'd say everyone under Hidan (he loses to hidan 6/10 times),
For Sasuke I'd say anyone 3 tomoe Kakashi can beat, because Sasuke can use Chidori easily in base)
For Sakura I'd say Part2 zabuza, and anyone Below Deva Path.) So kinda the same as Sasuke

Well, I more or less agree with Sakura...surprisingly. Though I'm not sure what Part 2 Zabuza implies, I just picked Zabuza.

Sasuke is...well, either lightly underestimated or overestimated, depends on wether 3 tomoe Kakashi is part 1 or 2 here.

Naruto though is badly underestimated. He could do more than Hidan, especially since this is a battle to death we're talking about, so Rasenshuriken is very much possible.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Well, I more or less agree with Sakura...surprisingly. Though I'm not sure what Part 2 Zabuza implies, I just picked Zabuza.

Sasuke is...well, either lightly underestimated or overestimated, depends on wether 3 tomoe Kakashi is part 1 or 2 here.

Naruto though is badly underestimated. He could do more than Hidan, especially since this is a battle to death we're talking about, so Rasenshuriken is very much possible.

Kurama saves Naruto when he make rash choices, NAruto loses because of his intellect,even though Hidan is equally stupid.

RS can he use that without messing up his arm, Hidan will tank it, then attack Naruto

 

[take it easy]

Sasuke is TenTen level. He never was impressive in base, without the Sharingan.

Base Naruto still has healing, massive chakra reserves, clones and Rasengan/FRS which is stronger than Chidori.

Sakura is still Sakura.

Edit: I knew that Sausagers will give me dislikes because truth hurts XD.

 

[Mori Jin]

Sasuke just one shots everyone with Kirin

Naruto just one shots everyone with a FRS

Sakura is Sakura and punches stuff.

Yeah that's pretty much what came to mind

 

[Kakooli]

Base Sasuke is 3T Sasuke.

His dojutsu is part of his heritage, the same way Naruto's Uzumaki stamina is. 3T precog and genjutsu is enough to deal with base Naruto.

 

[Mori Jin]

Base Sasuke is 3T Sasuke.

His dojutsu is part of his heritage, the same way Naruto's Uzumaki stamina is. 3T precog and genjutsu is enough to deal with base Naruto.

But this is not about sasuke dealing with Naruto though? Guess you're insecure.

 

[Kakooli]

But this is not about sasuke dealing with Naruto though? Guess you're insecure.

I never said it was. Nice armchair psychology btw.