Base Naruto vs Base Killer Bee

[genii96]

Sorry, I didn't realize the collaboration technique was anime only. Naruto has no chance of fighting a taijutsu fight with Bee, especially when Bee is using raiton empowered swords. his only chance is calling forth two or three toads wasting all his chakra. Gamabunta and Gamaken are enough to deal in a fight with Bee. They may not have raiton empowered swords but they are about three 15 times the size of Bee's and weight about a hundred times the amount Bee's does. Gamaken wields a sasumata (if that's how you spell it) and a shield which is extremely effective under his use. I don't see Bee blocking both of their attacks and/or come closer in range of his sword to gamaken and Gamabunta as they can fight within their range and move back while Bee comes closer.

you forget that bee can make ink clones of his own,so he can have all of them use raiton swords and fight the toads.

The toads bones and bodies are not even strong,remember when a weakened deva broke their bones with one ST,yet a full ppowered deva hit kakashi with 2-3 ST's and he still got up. Killer b was fast enough to react to minato's ftg and his bro's v2,he was strong enough to beat A in a lariat contest while in base and A was in his raiton armour,he was fast enough to shushin to another mountain before take even knew he was gone.

Dodging those toads wont be a problem,especially with several ink clones moving around.

Even if naruto makes several clones,his fighting style is so unorthodox that even a sharingan can't see it,he could defeat naruto's clones by using his swords easily.

A kick to the neck from sasuke didnt hurt him at all,and he recovered quickly from a chidori,he took a lariat from A without damage. Naruto isnt winning this.

Base Naruto wins

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Naruto did that in base

Base or not , Kurama can replenish or give Naruto chakra like he did above in image
He can summon bunta also and 2 old toads

kurama is restricted. And naruto did that with the chakra given to him from kurama. Summoning those 2 toads takes time,and naruto can't just summon them anyhow.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

To the people who say he can summon the tosds, do yoi really think hes gonna have enouch time to do that; he'll prob be dead before he can even summon those toads.

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Bee wins Naruto won't be able to predict Bee's movements.

 

[NarutoIndra]

you forget that bee can make ink clones of his own,so he can have all of them use raiton swords and fight the toads.

The toads bones and bodies are not even strong,remember when a weakened deva broke their bones with one ST,yet a full ppowered deva hit kakashi with 2-3 ST's and he still got up. Killer b was fast enough to react to minato's ftg and his bro's v2,he was strong enough to beat A in a lariat contest while in base and A was in his raiton armour,he was fast enough to shushin to another mountain before take even knew he was gone.

Dodging those toads wont be a problem,especially with several ink clones moving around.

Even if naruto makes several clones,his fighting style is so unorthodox that even a sharingan can't see it,he could defeat naruto's clones by using his swords easily.

A kick to the neck from sasuke didnt hurt him at all,and he recovered quickly from a chidori,he took a lariat from A without damage. Naruto isnt winning this.



kurama is restricted. And naruto did that with the chakra given to him from kurama. Summoning those 2 toads takes time,and naruto can't just summon them anyhow.

Bee cannot use ink clones, as the ink comes from gyuki's mouth, and gyuki is restricted just like Kurama is. Killer B was never able to react quick enough to Minato, as well as him being in a partial Bijuu Transformation. Minato would have easily killed Bee if he wanted to. I don't know what you said about shunshin, but if you were talking about Bee; he has never shown to be able to use it, and if you were talking about A; than it was irrelevant. Since he can't use ink clones, dodging them as they have such power, speed and range would be a big problem for Bee. A kick to the neck from Sasuke didn't hurt Bee, and a chidori which left him unharmed, this all shows brilliant resilience, but one slash from any of the two toads, and there will be two halves of a killed Bee. Naruto's rasengan would most likely do some damage, as it is more powerful than the chidori and A's Lariat. Now if Naruto does a base rasengan barrage then please explain how Bee will handle it, because i would love to be enlightened. Say Bee takes out ten of ten shadow clone, 30 are left with a rasengan in Bee's face. if Bee is somehow able to survive that, and is able to defeat Gamabunta and Gamaken (which I don't see how, since their swords are so much larger) than Bee would win, other than that I don't see it happening.

 

[Omnipotent]

Nah, Naruto wins.

 

[genii96]

Bee cannot use ink clones, as the ink comes from gyuki's mouth, and gyuki is restricted just like Kurama is. Killer B was never able to react quick enough to Minato, as well as him being in a partial Bijuu Transformation. Minato would have easily killed Bee if he wanted to. I don't know what you said about shunshin, but if you were talking about Bee; he has never shown to be able to use it, and if you were talking about A; than it was irrelevant. Since he can't use ink clones, dodging them as they have such power, speed and range would be a big problem for Bee. A kick to the neck from Sasuke didn't hurt Bee, and a chidori which left him unharmed, this all shows brilliant resilience, but one slash from any of the two toads, and there will be two halves of a killed Bee. Naruto's rasengan would most likely do some damage, as it is more powerful than the chidori and A's Lariat. Now if Naruto does a base rasengan barrage then please explain how Bee will handle it, because i would love to be enlightened. Say Bee takes out ten of ten shadow clone, 30 are left with a rasengan in Bee's face. if Bee is somehow able to survive that, and is able to defeat Gamabunta and Gamaken (which I don't see how, since their swords are so much larger) than Bee would win, other than that I don't see it happening.

killer b easily brought out ink from his mouth in base when he was comfronted by kisame.
Minato shushined behind bee,and put a kunai to his throat,then he noticed bee's sword to his stomach.
Remeber when she ecovered from the chidori?,juugo atempted tosmash him,and they found him gone,karin used her sensing to find him on another mountain,what would you call that?.

Killer bee's sword fighting style allows him to move in such an unorthodox way that even a sharingan could not keep up,those clones actually have to hit him with the rasengan,remember the way kimi moved against naruto?,yea it's like that,only way faster and way stronger. He was even capable of fighting all taka members at once in base,without his swords IIRC. If a sharingan cudnt see him,what nakes you so sure that naruto,who isnt even that fast in base would be able to hit him?.

He moved fast enough to intercept raikage in v2 while in base,as well as overpwer him with a lariat while A was in v2,while naruto claimed one punch from A would kill him while A was in v1 and he was in kcm mode.that is strength.

Rasengan is weaker than a chidori,if you are talking about base naruto and sasuke. Sasuke went through a fierce match with danzo,went throgh a brief match with kakashi,and his chidori matched a fresh naruto,so sasuke's chidori is well above base naruto's rasengan.

The naruto that did those rasengan barrages did that with the chakra of kurama, and after that,he drained all the chakra,so naruto himself can't pull that off. Summoning one boss toad itakes a huge chakra toll,no one has ever summoned more than 1 toad IIRC. The body of those toads are somewhat weak,an ST from a weakened deva broke their bones,while 2 from a healthy deva cudnt put down kakashi. He just needs to cut their legs,if he reacted to raikage while in raiton armour,he can react to a toad.naruto has never shown to summon more than one toad.

 

[Agent 47]

Killer Bee kills. Dattebayo has no hope against those crazy sword skills.

 

[ChillySnow]

killer b easily brought out ink from his mouth in base when he was comfronted by kisame.
Minato shushined behind bee,and put a kunai to his throat,then he noticed bee's sword to his stomach.
Remeber when she ecovered from the chidori?,juugo atempted tosmash him,and they found him gone,karin used her sensing to find him on another mountain,what would you call that?.

Killer bee's sword fighting style allows him to move in such an unorthodox way that even a sharingan could not keep up,those clones actually have to hit him with the rasengan,remember the way kimi moved against naruto?,yea it's like that,only way faster and way stronger. He was even capable of fighting all taka members at once in base,without his swords IIRC. If a sharingan cudnt see him,what nakes you so sure that naruto,who isnt even that fast in base would be able to hit him?.

He moved fast enough to intercept raikage in v2 while in base,as well as overpwer him with a lariat while A was in v2,while naruto claimed one punch from A would kill him while A was in v1 and he was in kcm mode.that is strength.

Rasengan is weaker than a chidori,if you are talking about base naruto and sasuke. Sasuke went through a fierce match with danzo,went throgh a brief match with kakashi,and his chidori matched a fresh naruto,so sasuke's chidori is well above base naruto's rasengan.

The naruto that did those rasengan barrages did that with the chakra of kurama, and after that,he drained all the chakra,so naruto himself can't pull that off. Summoning one boss toad itakes a huge chakra toll,no one has ever summoned more than 1 toad IIRC. The body of those toads are somewhat weak,an ST from a weakened deva broke their bones,while 2 from a healthy deva cudnt put down kakashi. He just needs to cut their legs,if he reacted to raikage while in raiton armour,he can react to a toad.naruto has never shown to summon more than one toad.

no Kyuubi replenished his chakra. Since kyuubi hates madara so much, he would of given him enough chakra to fight Madara not to mass COR spam mokuton. I bet a fully recovered Naruto could spam COR in base. During wind arc, naruto used around 200-250 clones creating rasengans and adding wind chakra.

 

[NarutoIndra]

killer b easily brought out ink from his mouth in base when he was comfronted by kisame.
Minato shushined behind bee,and put a kunai to his throat,then he noticed bee's sword to his stomach.
Remeber when she ecovered from the chidori?,juugo atempted tosmash him,and they found him gone,karin used her sensing to find him on another mountain,what would you call that?.

Killer bee's sword fighting style allows him to move in such an unorthodox way that even a sharingan could not keep up,those clones actually have to hit him with the rasengan,remember the way kimi moved against naruto?,yea it's like that,only way faster and way stronger. He was even capable of fighting all taka members at once in base,without his swords IIRC. If a sharingan cudnt see him,what nakes you so sure that naruto,who isnt even that fast in base would be able to hit him?.

He moved fast enough to intercept raikage in v2 while in base,as well as overpwer him with a lariat while A was in v2,while naruto claimed one punch from A would kill him while A was in v1 and he was in kcm mode.that is strength.

Rasengan is weaker than a chidori,if you are talking about base naruto and sasuke. Sasuke went through a fierce match with danzo,went throgh a brief match with kakashi,and his chidori matched a fresh naruto,so sasuke's chidori is well above base naruto's rasengan.

The naruto that did those rasengan barrages did that with the chakra of kurama, and after that,he drained all the chakra,so naruto himself can't pull that off. Summoning one boss toad itakes a huge chakra toll,no one has ever summoned more than 1 toad IIRC. The body of those toads are somewhat weak,an ST from a weakened deva broke their bones,while 2 from a healthy deva cudnt put down kakashi. He just needs to cut their legs,if he reacted to raikage while in raiton armour,he can react to a toad.naruto has never shown to summon more than one toad.

Well since you just basically restated everything in the previous thread, I don't see any point in repeating my self as you didn't re counter any of my arguments, but only re-clarified them.. Killer Bee's ink comes from Gyuki, simply accept it, he is an octopus and logically is the one who supplies the ink to Bee. Gyuki is restricted so it's basically non-jinchuriki vs non-jinchuriki, which in that case means Bee cannot use the ink.

Minato in his fight with Bee and A isn't clear so you cannot make assumptions from what we saw. When Minato was behind Bee at first, he didn't look surprises, after 10-15 seconds of staring at A, he looked back at Bee and realized there was a knife pointing towards his stomach. How do we know he didn't pull the knife out while Minato was looking at A? We cannot assume that and their for not use it as a valid argument.

When did I say Naruto would have to put up a taijutsu fight with Bee? I said Gamaken and Gamabunta, but according to you Manga never stated Naruto can summon two, so I would also like to add that manga never claimed that Madara can beat TenTen in a fight. Naruto can easily summon both, Jiraya was able to summon Gamaken, shima, and fukasaku and does not nearly have the same chakra capacity, and even after summoning all three showed not a single sign of fatigue. So Naruto, with his immense chakra load can't summon Gamaken and Gamabunta? Naruto would also have no signs of fatigue, meaning he would be able to use shadow clones as well, and many of them (until he is fatigued)

I already know that Bee is much more powerful and agile than Naruto. That is why I said Gamaken and Gamabunta would be a good counter since they fight with range and are significantly more powerful than Bee.

Chidori is supposed to pierce, rasengan has a large blast range. If you remember in one of their fights, when Kakashi split them apart (sasuke didn't want to wear his headband) Naruto's rasengan had much bigger damage than the chidori against that barrel if I remember correctly. Don't tell me chidori was weak back then Naruto's rasengan now is manipulated by descent chakra control.

Those rasengan barrages were great rasengan barrages, this is just a regular rasengan with about 10-20 shadow clones. I know their bodies are pretty weak, but how will Bee come close to them when they have such a large sword range and Gamaken has a shied which will block any of Bee's attacks.