Base Naruto Jonin lvl ??

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Base Naruto is definitely at Jounin level. Kakashi stated this himself after the Kakuzo fight.

@Godaime Raikage. I think you are the one who needs to go back and read the manga.


This and yes he is kage level since kakashi is a runner up and He could beat kakashi in a fight
 

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Base Naruto is definitely at Jounin level. Kakashi stated this himself after the Kakuzo fight.

@Godaime Raikage. I think you are the one who needs to go back and read the manga.


REP+ ^^^^^^^

Been looking for that chapter for almost a day, but he beat me to it....gj:p
 

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there are loads ofpeople that are jounin and are usong just one element manipulation, raikage uses justbligjtning.and ave not seen tsunadre useay element yet
Thank you, I've yet to see Neji use ANY nature release, and Ebisu is a Jonin yet he suck ballz, ppl claim Jonin is such a high rank and Naruto's not at that level, but I don't see it
 

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Thank you, I've yet to see Neji use ANY nature release, and Ebisu is a Jonin yet he suck ballz, ppl claim Jonin is such a high rank and Naruto's not at that level, but I don't see it
Correction.....Ebisu is a S-Jounin. When he first took Naruto in to train him on walking on water, he introduced himself as one of the S-Jounin of the Leaf (whatever the hell that meant)....
 

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What is base mode? Is it with sage mode? Or we talking before or after the Hidan Kakuzu. If it's before i'd say High Chunin if it's after i'd say jounin For sure. Rasen shuriken Makes the whole differents mostly because he learned a lot during the training about chakra control and such.
 

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What is base mode? Is it with sage mode? Or we talking before or after the Hidan Kakuzu. If it's before i'd say High Chunin if it's after i'd say jounin For sure. Rasen shuriken Makes the whole differents mostly because he learned a lot during the training about chakra control and such.
It means without using sage mode or kyuubi modes
 
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Naruto has goten much better with Sage Mode/jutsu Originaly he could only use a few clones during Sage mode and controlling his chakra obviously. Its not like Naruto can't make 2 clones have them runn off or stay at a distance charge sage or have more clones/etc. Shadow clones is also a forbidden jutsu...It is stated on the very 1st episode....Can Base Naruto beat Kakashi...yes he can.

assuming Naruto or kakashi does not use Sage or Sharingan. Naruto would win.
Kakashi has Dog summons.
Naruto has Frog summons and their just huge...
Kakashi has Chidori
Naruto has Rasangan which techinaly is stronger according to the time sasuke and Naruto fought on rooftop(water towers damage) and he has Rasen Shuriken which beats lightning.
Kakashi has small amount of Chakra in comparison to Naruto.
Kakashi knows that Head hunter earth jutsu?
They both know Shadow clones but Naruto can use it better.

Their close to even match but Naruto would just outlast Kakashi with his healing and mass numbers of clones.
Also they both know how to stick fingers up each other's ass and lets face it if Naruto was in real danger "the useless" Hinata would just jump out in front and take the hit while Naruto would go in "ALL CAPS RAGE MODE"
 
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The Reason why Gui and Kakashi were tacking about their youth is they both came to realize their power is now nothing next to Naruto, who had just save them from a point blank tail beast bomb.
 

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Let's see.

The "Minimum Requirements" for Jonin:
"Jōnin are generally able to use at least two types of elemental chakra, some genjutsu, and above average taijutsu skills."

In reality Naruto has a couple of jutsu. He has Rasengan, Shadow Clones, and Summoning. He only knows how to use one elemental chakra, Wind Release. He doesn't know how to use genjutsu at all. But he is very skilled in taijutsu.

So he doesn't make the requirements but you could say his strength makes up for it.


So I would say that Base Naruto is a low Jonin.
 

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Other kag level jutsus ?? like what ??
Kuchiyose - 1 summon gamabunta - same as jiraiya's summon
rasengan - minato's level technique + only minato and jiraiya can use that tech
rasenshuriken - above minato's level on manipulating chakra nature
tajou kagebunshin - more than any level kage can produce - masses
ok ok this is the bad part oh my god. for all the hand sequence / seal why only kagebunshin LOLLLL...

this all base tech a few i could say but the level of techniques he is using is same as technique or level of a kage.
 

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Kuchiyose - 1 summon gamabunta - same as jiraiya's summon
rasengan - minato's level technique + only minato and jiraiya can use that tech
rasenshuriken - above minato's level on manipulating chakra nature
tajou kagebunshin - more than any level kage can produce - masses
ok ok this is the bad part oh my god. for all the hand sequence / seal why only kagebunshin LOLLLL...

this all base tech a few i could say but the level of techniques he is using is same as technique or level of a kage.
Correction , Jiraiya , Minato, Kakashi and Konohamaru couod the rasengan :)
 

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You are a Sasuke Fan Boy troll...

But Base Naruto meaning he can't go into SM, then yes probably high Jounin level, with SM much higher




He can first of all out last any Jounin out there, he has so much chakra that he could last 20 times longer than anyone else, plus you are saying Sasuke took them on, but that wasn't base Sasuke, base Sasuke is no Sharingan like Naruto can't use his Bijuu or Sage Mode.

RasenShuriken is very hard to dodge because it can be held for as long as he wants and it expands.

Kakazu wasn't something that can be thrown aside because Hidan who was much worse than him took out Asuma who was quite strong and a Jounin, and Kakazu also was fighting Naruto when he had just learned RasenShuriken, so if he was fighting him after he had mastered it, he would have hit him the first time. And is there a single Chuunin who could stand a chance against Naruto? No... Sasuke and him have always been equals, even in base mode as Naruto would have beat Sasuke's chidori if he wasn't aiming for his Headband. Also lets take Neji or Temari, could either of them beat Naruto? Nope. There is a lot of proof that he is high level Jounin level in base, just like Orochimaru, Jiraiya, and Tsunade would be Jounin in base mode. Without his snake transformation stuff, sage mode, and regeneration stuff.
Dude first of all the part about Sasuke not being in base because of sharingan is nonsense, Sharingan is his blood line limit, its in his dna, therefore a natural ability and base mode. Unless you wana tell me that kimimaro isn't in base mode when he uses his bones or that Kidomaru isn't in base when he uses his spider webs, or that Haku isn't in base when he uses his ice techniques (with the exception of demon ice mirrors off course, those are like weaker version of hirashin).

Sasuke with sharingan is base mode, I would have understood now if you said in cursed seal state he isn't in base mode, but shringan? Come on bro, you're not convincing anyone but yourself with that argument.

As for Naruto's chakra making his a jounin level, I believe I already mentioned in my previous post that he can fight on a level of jounin with clone spam, which he can do because of chakra reserves.

If you didn't get it, my argument was that his "SKILL LEVEL" is not jounin level but his Chakra makes him able to fight on that level, especially with weak cats like Ebisu gaining elite jounin status.
 
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