[VS] Base Minato vs KM Minato

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Many people believe KM Minato is stronger than Base Minato, but i wonder why, because i believe it's the contrary. I know it's the same character, but they don't seem the same for me. So what do you think? Arguments are needed.

The purpose of the thread is to show/know the difference between both Minato
 

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I mean essentially I haven't really seen a difference between them but if we use Common sense then obviously kcm does give him some enhancements. Im also guessing your making this because as you stated earlier base minato is more calm and has shown better intellect feats than current KM minato?

Anyway's Ill go with KCM minato for obvious reason being that they are basically the same but kcm gives him the boost.
 

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Would you tell me this comes down to an intelligence factor?
Exactly. Just take a look

- Base Minato was capable to analyse and notice the weakness of a complexe jutsu like Chidori the first time he saw it in action

- Base Minato saw through Bee 16years before A, noticing the real reason behind his strength

- Base Minato was capable to analyse and notice the weakness of a complexe jutsu like Kamui's intangibility, and take advantage of this the instant he saw this

His insight has been portrayed to be god-like. Yet for some reason, KCM Minato is acting like an idiot, not even noticing the simplest things like Gamakichi's attack not erased by Obito's jutsu to start to question himself when so far, he has show one of the best if not the best insight in the entire manga? Something that even his dumb son was capable to notice? No man, i know Kishi sometimes wants to dowgrade characters just to leave opportunities for some others to shine, and maybe he just wanted to do that to create the relationship "like father, like son" that Tobirama said, but i don't like his methods because this is clearly not the Minato i know who is fighting currently.

What's funny is that he now create the "like father like son" thing when he said before plenty of times that Naruto is more like Kushina than his dad. Before we even met Minato, Tsunade said Naruto is totally different from his father in terms of look, speech and intelligence. Minato was always shown to think before acting, yet he acts before thinking.

Only because Kishi wants to suddenly come up with a relation between the 2? That's poor and bad writing for me here if you ask me. Not even as if Kishi has always been coherant in his manga anyway when you look at the amount of inconsistencies in his manga

I'm not even talking about Minato's capacities here, even his way of fighting and insight is totally different. He is simply too reckless. I'm not watching Minato fighting currently. This is just a double or fake for me
 

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Bogard, your argument is invalid.

Just because say Sasuke started forsaking strategy when he acquired the Mangekyou when compared to Hebi doesn't mean he doesn't have access to the intelligence feats Hebi Sasuke has.

Same goes here.

KCM Minato is obviously different from Base Minato in the fact that he had no need for cautiousness: why would he? As far as he knew he is immortal.

Furthermore, the fact that he had to defend his kid and was fighting his former student also had an impact on him.

Even then Minato has nothing to hurt the KCM cloak with. Rasengan won't cut it.
 

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To be fair you have to take into factor up the situation he is in. His facing practically the strongest character in NV and has to keep his son safe. And his fighting his own student..
 

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Bogard, your argument is invalid.

Just because say Sasuke started forsaking strategy when he acquired the Mangekyou when compared to Hebi doesn't mean he doesn't have access to the intelligence feats Hebi Sasuke has.

Same goes here.

KCM Minato is obviously different from Base Minato in the fact that he had no need for cautiousness: why would he? As far as he knew he is immortal.

Furthermore, the fact that he had to defend his kid and was fighting his former student also had an impact on him.

Even then Minato has nothing to hurt the KCM cloak with. Rasengan won't cut it.

To be fair you have to take into factor up the situation he is in. His facing practically the strongest character in NV and has to keep his son safe. And his fighting his own student..

I always considered Hebi Sasuke smarter just like i consider Base Minato smarter. Not my fault if Kishimoto is a poor writer, not capable to conserve someone's character. Minato has always been portrayed to have a total different personality than his son, totally calm, observativ and analytic in battle, yet he is a goofy-like character always talking and acting before thinking.

It's more than obvious that the Minato we see right now is totally different, and i'm not only talking about the fact of saving his son or Sasuke, i'm talking about his overall way of fighting. Like i've said, even the simplest things like Gamakichi's not erased attack, he was uncapable to notice when so far he has shown god-like insight.

Anyway i'd sleep soon, so maybe later Zzz
 

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Or maybe he simply doesn't know much about senjutsu?

He called Sage Mode '' Jiraiya's senjutsu ''... I mean really.
 

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Pure speculation as why we can say Chakra mode is better, but there is some truth in what you say Boggie.
Itachi would've figured out Gamakichi's attack was not erased by Obito's jutsu
 

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Pure speculation as why we can say Chakra mode is better, but there is some truth in what you say Boggie.
Itachi would've figured out Gamakichi's attack was not erased by Obito's jutsu

Lol u had to say it huh? lmao=D
 

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Honestly, I think he's surprised because it's Obito and the fact that he's acquired such power.

I think that's the reason why Tobirama's been leading ever since Minato found out the Masked Man was Obito.

Once Minato gets over this, I'm sure we'll see his intelligent side back.
 

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As we all know that Alive Minato is better U_U I can see him making a complete fodder out of KCM Minato U_U
 

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I think KM Minato wins. He is traumatized right now. That is why he is not thinking right.
 

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KMC minato wins smarts dont mean a thing when he knows everything he can do in base
 
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