Base Jiraiya vs 3T Itachi

[RedRobin]

And Yomi Numa GG? His best feat was performing it against Human Path and Animal Path who had no viable counters against Jiraiya's main form of ninjutsu which is his Katon. Itachi has feats of countering his Katon and has Precognition and the speed and reflexes required to fend off a far Superior Sage. The fact that Jiraiya can easily Yomi Numa GG here while in Base is laughable esp. when we take into consideration that Itachi can easily read his seals and counter with Shuriken-ninjutsu or any form of Ninjutsu far quicker than Jiraiya can ever hope to complete his seals here.

No. And that was drugged Jiraiya too meaning he cant make an even bigger one.

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[Transcendence]

I really don't see how Jiraiya is winning here when itachi has full intel.

 

[NarutoX28]

No. And that was drugged Jiraiya too.

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Great and Itachi can perceive his seals.

Itachi has full intel here brah.

 

[RedRobin]

Great and Itachi can perceive his seals.

Itachi has full intel here brah.

But how does he counter it? Lol.

 

[Gein]

Hasnt fought in 20 years.

I dont follow your reasoning to what I said

 

[Apêx1]

But how does he counter it? Lol.

>shunshin
>jumps and uses fire to solidify the mud

 

[NarutoX28]

But how does he counter it? Lol.

Creates seals faster than Jiraiya does. Hell, he managed to easily pressure 2 users with Precognition with hand seals. He merely outclasses Jiraiya here.

 

[RedRobin]

>shunshin
>jumps and uses fire to solidify the mud

You are completely ignoring the size of the swamp, neither of those strategies will work. Plus it just sets up Itachi to focus on the swamp while J use

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to catch him in the air GG.

 

[Zexion~]

The swamp isn't that wide, it can be avoided horizontally.

 

[Apêx1]

You are completely ignoring the size of the swamp, neither of those strategies will work. Plus it just sets up Itachi to focus on the swamp while J use

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to catch him in the air GG.

I am not ignoring its width. Itachi can easily shunshin such a distance in no time. And how does Jiraiya do anything in that time if Itachi chooses to Karasu Bunshin feint unnoticed? Ends up thinking he damaged the real Itachi, but the crows flock around him distracting him, and this happens [

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]. Bye bye Jiraiya

 

[RedRobin]

The swamp isn't that wide, it can be avoided horizontally.

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Its wide.

 

[RedRobin]

I am not ignoring its width. Itachi can easily shunshin such a distance in no time. And how does Jiraiya do anything in that time if Itachi chooses to Karasu Bunshin feint unnoticed? Ends up thinking he damaged the real Itachi, but the crows flock around him distracting him, and this happens [

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]. Bye bye Jiraiya

Itachi and Jiraiya are 25m apart, Itachi is dealing with Yomi numa and hair techs when is he casting crows and getting that close to Jiraiya?

 

[LuckyMan]

I never said that, all I stated was that location was more desirable for that jutsu.

No it wasn't. Do you know what Toad Mouth Trap is?

 

[Torche]

You didn't restrict Susano'o, so Itachi's got this low diff. :sdo:

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[LuckyMan]

Because;
-With full intel he can easily anticipate Yomi Numa and counter it by shunshin'ing away

-Any Toad summon will be placed under Genjutsu and be used against Jiraiya. Crows can place both of them under Genjutsu simultaneously

-He can replace himself with a Karasu Bunshin that Jiraiya can't even see (Sharingans failed to notice). Once Jiraiya 'kills' it, it splits into many crows and casts genjutsu upon Jiraiya

-During this state of distraction and/or genjutsu, Itachi can simply blitz Jiraiya and slash his neck with a kunai

Full Intel works both ways. Jiraiya immediately brings out Gamabunta and stays away from Itachi. He won't even be able to see Jiraiya form the seals from atop Gamabunta head and it'll appear right under him and he's through, there's no escape.

He can't cast genjutsu on any toad once their summoned because Jiraiya is aware of this and will have them gain distance to step up Yumi Numa or Toad Flame Bomb. Jiraiya was aware when Itachi put the girl under Genjutsu, so sure he'd be aware Genjutsu is active, he's already on Gamabunta head, just need to Kai (release him).

They aren't fighting in CQC, Jman rides Gamabunta and Itachi is below. Yumi Numa from below, Toad Flame Bomb to roast him, or Gamabunta jumps on him, or blasts him with Suiton, there's no escape, attacks have too much AoE.

 

[kaithefly]

if itachi can put jiraiya's toad summonings in a genjutsu then itachi wins. if not, then jiraiya

 

[Haloguy2710]

Jiraiya mid diff

 

[Apêx1]

Itachi and Jiraiya are 25m apart, Itachi is dealing with Yomi numa and hair techs when is he casting crows and getting that close to Jiraiya?

...Itachi already did a Karashu bunshin feint in the midst of all this [

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], and you tell me he can't do one while merely shunshin'ing away? His hand seal is so fast Sharingan users can't even see it, so no doubt Jiraiya won't. Not to mention he won't be dealing with Jiraiya's hair because during the time he's using shunshin Jiraiya's hair won't even ever come close to Itachi's speed.

Full Intel works both ways. Jiraiya immediately brings out Gamabunta and stays away from Itachi. He won't even be able to see Jiraiya form the seals from atop Gamabunta head and it'll appear right under him and he's through, there's no escape.

He can't cast genjutsu on any toad once their summoned because Jiraiya is aware of this and will have them gain distance to step up Yumi Numa or Toad Flame Bomb. Jiraiya was aware when Itachi put the girl under Genjutsu, so sure he'd be aware Genjutsu is active, he's already on Gamabunta head, just need to Kai (release him).

They aren't fighting in CQC, Jman rides Gamabunta and Itachi is below. Yumi Numa from below, Toad Flame Bomb to roast him, or Gamabunta jumps on him, or blasts him with Suiton, there's no escape, attacks have too much AoE.

-How can he stay away from Itachi when Itachi can summon crows to continuously follow them [

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]? Both of them are cast into Genjutsu and they are done for. Not to mention Jiraiya doesn't sense chakra flow, so he won't know when Bunta is with him or against him. And bruh... Jiraiya can't use Yomi Numa if he's not making contact with some floor directly linked with it.... It doesn't just appear where he looks.

-I'm saying he puts both of them under Genjutsu through crows. Itachi's been said to be capable of putting many people under Genjutsu simultaneously [

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]. Toad Flame is useless because they are in CQC, Itachi would just need to Shunshin closer to the toad's legs rather than away from the massive AOE. Yomi Numa isn't happening. And no, that's not how it works. Jiraiya was capable of figuring it out eventually, but Jiraiya has no way of noticing it without being capable of sensing chakra flow. So he won't know when to Kai in the first place, meaning there's potential that Gamabunta just slashes Jiraiaya from his own head. And nah, if they try large scale attacks they'll end up wasting their chakra on a Bunshin that Itachi feinted with.

 

[Char Aznable]

Toad stomach trap GG.

 

[Hagoromo Reanimation]

Jiraiya was also drugged. And Orochimaru had Kabuto, who is on par or better than Tsunade.

When Jiraiya fought Orochimaru it was one on one when he lost Orochimaru body was rejecting him & he had no ninjutsu