Base Itachi vs 3T Sasuke

[ChocolateVanilla]

Intel: None
Mindset: Kill
Location: Kamui Dimension
Distance: 50M
Restrictions: Manda, Susano'o, CM2

This be Hebi Sasuke

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke wins. Itachi was forced to use MS Jutsu on him in canon, anything else isn't putting Sasuke down.

 

[Xlad]

Sasuke wins. Itachi was losing in base from what I remember.

 

[Blunt]

I'm fairly sure even with the CM2 enhancements, Sasuke would have lost had Itachi had real killing intent. I usually always say Fully awakened MS Sasuke > MS Itachi, but this is a different case.

Itachi wins.

 

[Demonic.]

Careful ChocolateVanilla there is this user named Draphsin (or something like that) that gets butthurt when it comes to Base match ups.

OT: Sasuke wins

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Sasuke wins. Itachi was forced to use MS Jutsu on him in canon, anything else isn't putting Sasuke down.

But Itachi wasn't giving his all then...
Their fight could have ended

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if Itachi had killing intent.

 

[KidGamer65]

But Itachi wasn't giving his all then...
Their fight could have ended

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if Itachi had killing intent.

That was inside Genjutsu, specifically Tsukuyomi, which is restricted here, so its not applicable. Itachi can't blitz Sasuke, and they can both react to each other's attacks, so speed isn't an issue. Sasuke has CM2 to tank any of Itachi's Katon, and he already canonically overpowered Itachi's Fireball Jutsu with his own. So Sasuke has superior Ninjutsu. I don't see how he loses this.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

That was inside Genjutsu, specifically Tsukuyomi, which is restricted here, so its not applicable. Itachi can't blitz Sasuke, and they can both react to each other's attacks, so speed isn't an issue. Sasuke has CM2 to tank any of Itachi's Katon, and he already canonically overpowered Itachi's Fireball Jutsu with his own. So Sasuke has superior Ninjutsu. I don't see how he loses this.

Fair enough, but Itachi still is vastly superior in

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and could definitely surprise Sasuke, much like he did in the Tsukuyomi. Sasuke needed to resort to CM1 to best Itachi's Goukakyuu while Itachi was suffering from backlash. If they were to clash, Itachi can stalemate Sasuke long enough for him to create a

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to attack Sasuke while he's vulnerable.
As this is a no intel match up, Itachi could use Karasu and Explosive Bunshin feints to harm/confuse Sasuke, leaving Sasuke vulnerable long enough for Itachi to kill him with a kunai.

 

[Blunt]

Fair enough, but Itachi still is vastly superior in

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and could definitely surprise Sasuke, much like he did in the Tsukuyomi. Sasuke needed to resort to CM1 to best Itachi's Goukakyuu while Itachi was suffering from backlash. If they were to clash, Itachi can stalemate Sasuke long enough for him to create a

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to attack Sasuke while he's vulnerable.
As this is a no intel match up, Itachi could use Karasu and Explosive Bunshin feints to harm/confuse Sasuke, leaving Sasuke vulnerable long enough for Itachi to kill him with a kunai.

Agreed with this, it seems like Itachi is a tier above Hebi Sasuke in every aspect. Granted Sasuke didn't use CM1 that much during the taijutsu scuffle, Itachi was also sick, it wouldn't have made a huge difference seeing as Itachi still has superior speed, hand weaving and can utilize clones.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasuke shits. His raition makes his cqc far to dangerous for Itachi.

 

[Haizaki]

Itachi wins this Lol.

- Itachi was sick and still held back against Sasuke.
- Itachi's superior in Taijutsu so if it comes down to that, he wins.
- Chidori Nagashi is sure useful but isn't instant..Sasuke won't have time to do when he's already engaged in a taijutsu fight. This was evident in the Itachi fight when he resorted to it after he was thrown away by Itachi

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and No it wasn't because he was in a genjutsu. He still had control over his own actions.
- Itachi can create an exploding clone, summon his crows and have it block Sasuke's vision

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and then since Sasuke can't differentiate between a clone and the real, this would be problematic for him as we saw how Itachi appeared right in front of Sasuke much to his surprise. Matter of fact Itachi can use this to confuse Sasuke and he won't know whether it's a clone or the real one.

 

[Bronze]

Itachi canonically stated that he needed Mangekyou Sharingan in order to battle Sasuke. Latter takes this low diff.​

 

[Haizaki]

Itachi canonically stated that he needed Mangekyou Sharingan in order to battle Sasuke. Latter takes this low diff.​

Can't remember...can you show a scan please?

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Sasuke definitely takes this.

 

[KidGamer65]

Fair enough, but Itachi still is vastly superior in

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and could definitely surprise Sasuke, much like he did in the Tsukuyomi. Sasuke needed to resort to CM1 to best Itachi's Goukakyuu while Itachi was suffering from backlash. If they were to clash, Itachi can stalemate Sasuke long enough for him to create a

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to attack Sasuke while he's vulnerable.

Itachi isn't vastly superior when it comes to speed. The only times Sasuke was surprised by his speed was when Itachi used crows to cover his vision. Even then that was in his Genjutsu, outside of it Sasuke showed no issues at all with Itachi's speed. None whatsoever. VS. Kabuto he had to use a crow clone on Kabuto to feint him out and crows to mess with his vision so he could land a hit. That wasn't a raw speed feat.

Itachi stalemated Sasuke for about a second before his fireball started getting pushed back by Sasuke's, backlash had nothing to do with it. CM enhanced fireball>Normal fireball. If Itachi tries this,

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. Not to mention Sasuke still has Ryuuka no Jutsu, which dominates any fire style from Itachi.

The only thing Itachi showed to be Sasuke's superior in was CQC using Taijutsu and Bukijutsu

As this is a no intel match up, Itachi could use Karasu and Explosive Bunshin feints to harm/confuse Sasuke, leaving Sasuke vulnerable long enough for Itachi to kill him with a kunai.

Crow Clone feints won't confuse Sasuke as they don't carry as much chakra as the original, so Sharingan sees right through them. Exploding clones were seen through by Kakashi with ease, I have no doubt in my mind that Sasuke isn't going to get hit. He either evades or blocks them with Snakes.


Not seeing how Itachi wins when he needed Mangekyo Jutsu to fight against Hebi Sasuke in canon. When it came to his arsenal with 3-Tomoe, Sasuke countered it all. No Genjutsu is a factor at the 3-Tomoe Level. Taijutsu and Bukijutsu may go to Itachi (Even though Sasuke didn't use the Curse Mark's power, which gives his speed, strength and Ninjutsu a noticeable boost), but when we factor in Ninjutsu Sasuke has the edge, and speed isn't an issue for either of them. Itachi is going to have a hard time even damaging Sasuke when he can protect himself with snakes.

Not to mention Sasuke still has Kirin, which he can set up on his own, it'd just take longer. Itachi doesn't win.

 

[Bronze]

Can't remember...can you show a scan please?

''As long as I have the Mangekyou Sharingan, you cannot defeat me''​

 

[Conspirator.]

To be honest, Hebi Sasuke(with CM2) is above 3T Itachi by feats given how he was pushing Itachi to use his MS techs in their fight. He should win this without much difficulty.

 

[Haizaki]

''As long as I have the Mangekyou Sharingan, you cannot defeat me''​

That means he needs it to win? Despite not knowing Sasuke's full strength and holding back against him.

 

[Bronze]

That means he needs it to win? Despite not knowing Sasuke's full strength and holding back against him.

Yes, as he would not have mentioned the Mangekyou Sharingan in his statement, if he's going to speak about the strength difference between him and Sasuke. Him not wanting to kill Sasuke /=/ him not going easy on him. Sasuke shat on almost every Jutsu Itachi threw.​

 

[Haizaki]

Lol this is nooo intel??? Making things worse.

Sasuke won't be able to differentiate between clones at all. The sharingan doesn't give him such ability.