Base itachi> Base kakashi (no sharingan for both for)

[BenjerminGaye]

Who said Itachi needed to go all out and use Susanoo? Without sharingan Kakashi can't really use Raikiri because the chance of getting countered like he did in Kakashi gaiden.


Idk I double posted as well.

Then he uses rasengan.

 

[miromiro]

That's not what base is and if they never had the sharingan itachi never had his susanno.
Kakashi still has his chidori and all of its variants, rasengan, dog summons, and clones.

That's how it works? Well, Itachi still wins.

 

[Murasame]

Then he uses rasengan.

I doubt Kakashi will catch him rasengan and even if he does somehow Itachi can use Susanoo to protect him.. this leaves him open to getting crushed by Susanoo like Danzo did when he attacked with a kunai.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I doubt Kakashi will catch him rasengan and even if he does somehow Itachi can use Susanoo to protect him.. this leaves him open to getting crushed by Susanoo like Danzo did when he attacked with a kunai.

Kakashi is faster then danzo and has knowedge on susanno. I think he can dodge it.

 

[Murasame]

Kakashi is faster then danzo and has knowedge on susanno. I think he can dodge it.

Dodge when he's still going forward with Rasengan? Without sharingan he won't have the necessary reaction capabilities to dodge it even if he has the speed.
Does he even know Itachi has Susanoo?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Dodge when he's still going forward with Rasengan? Without sharingan he won't have the necessary reaction capabilities to dodge it even if he has the speed.
Does he even know Itachi has Susanoo?

You might be right with the whole needing sjaringan to see it but he doesn't have to go max speed to deal damage with rasengan so there's no reason why he can't stop himself.

And he knows from garra those with the double ms have susanno itachi falls under that list.

 

[Murasame]

You might be right with the whole needing sjaringan to see it but he doesn't have to go max speed to deal damage with rasengan so there's no reason why he can't stop himself.

And he knows from garra those with the double ms have susanno itachi falls under that list.

Gaara told him? When?

If he wants to take him down why wouldn't he go max speed? Its not like Itachi will activate susanoo immediately.. he can do it in the last second or two to lead him in with a counter attack. Even if we go by what you say Itachi can throw his sword like Madara did or use fire ball jutsu on kakashi who just stopped from running at Itachi.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Why is Susanoo being discussed in a non-sharingan match-up?

 

[Murasame]

Why is Susanoo being discussed in a non-sharingan match-up?

Go back to first page.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

It was funny the first thread, but now it's getting irritating lol. If anyone believes he can use Susanoo in base. . . I just. . . I don't even know what to say.

 

[Murasame]

It was funny the first thread, but now it's getting irritating lol. If anyone believes he can use Susanoo in base. . . I just. . . I don't even know what to say.

Itachi used it in base so why not? I mean if you can debunk this then I'll change my opinion on this.

 

[Airbear]

@ all the idiots

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^ madara did it, itachi did it first

 

[Airbear]

@ benjagay

u are an idiot. What kind of fanfiction is this. Kakashi blitzing itachi with a rasengan? IC kakashi doesn't start like that, and

definitely wouldn't use rasengan, as if that makes sense. Itachi getting blitzed? Zzz LOL laugable. 5 in speed, reaction time

is not a joke.

Outlasting itachi when he ic itachi would go for the genjutsu, apart from sharingan genjutsu. If that fails hand to hand

combat/shuriken/katon is next. Itachi's stamina wouldn't be a big factor in this matchup, considering his mangekyo would

not be used. Susanoo would actually be his last resort, and his trump card, to finish him up. Of course if his superior shunsin hasn't already

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Itachi used it in base so why not? I mean if you can debunk this then I'll change my opinion on this.

In the previous chapter, Itachi did use his Mangekyō in order to survive Kirin, which means something. If he had the ability to do such in base, why even bother activating the eye?

Maintaining Susanoo in base, but needing Mangekyō Sharingan to construct it. Plausible. . .
Pulling Susanoo outta his ass with no prior sharingan activation? Meh. . .

 

[Airbear]

^ mads did it

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

^ mads did it

Itachi had eyes, while Madara had none at all. The situations were different, meaning a direct comparison should be ruled out.

 

[Murasame]

In the previous chapter, Itachi did use his Mangekyō in order to survive Kirin, which means something. If he had the ability to do such in base, why even bother activating the eye?

Maintaining Susanoo in base, but needing Mangekyō Sharingan to construct it. Plausible. . .
Pulling Susanoo outta his ass with no prior sharingan activation? Meh. . .

As I told BenjerminGaye in the previous page..
Itachi did infact have his MS active before using Susanoo but the second after it was destroyed he yet activated again but this time being nearly blind.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

As I told BenjerminGaye in the previous page..
Itachi did infact have his MS active before using Susanoo but the second after it was destroyed he yet activated again but this time being nearly blind.

Yup, this sounds about right.

 

[Tendou00]

Base Kakashi >> Base Itachi.

 

[Murasame]

Yup, this sounds about right.

Oh and also he already had his MS active for a whole chapter even before that.. so this doesn't go against what I say. He didn't barely activate MS at that point to just use susanoo.