Base Hashirama vs. Tobirama [Special Conditions]

[BlacLord™]

With the revelation of Swagrama's nature ability, I decided to put him under two special conditions to see if he could grab a win.

Scenario 1: Tobirama has access to all canon Katon, Suiton, Doton, Raiton, Fuuton, Inton and Youton techniques. The latter two includes all the Hiden techs like Shadow Manipulation, Calorie Control and consciousness control.

Scenario 2: Tobirama snatches the Kyuubi and becomes it's Jin and of course, Kurama is instantly won over by the fur collar so he can use KCM and BM. With this though, he loses access to all but Suiton, Inton and Youton ninjutsu (aside from non-elemental ninjutsu).


Extra Scenario: As 2nd, but Hashirama gets access to SM.

 

[KidGamer65]

S1: Out of all those things, I can't think of anything that'll help him bar the Hiden Ninjutsu. Mind Transfer won't work if Hashirama uses clones to fight, since he'll have to hit the original, which isn't going to happen. Shadow Possession isn't going to bind Hashirama, considering his powerful chakra, and the fact he resisted Edo Tensei's binding. Expansion isn't going to help much, it just makes him a bigger target. Hashirama wins mid-high diff.

S2: Basically BM Minato vs Base Hashirama. Tobirama stomps.

Extra: Hashirama wins.

 

[ARGUS]

S1: Out of all those things, I can't think of anything that'll help him bar the Hiden Ninjutsu. Mind Transfer won't work if Hashirama uses clones to fight, since he'll have to hit the original, which isn't going to happen. Shadow Possession isn't going to bind Hashirama, considering his powerful chakra, and the fact he resisted Edo Tensei's binding. Expansion isn't going to help much, it just makes him a bigger target. Hashirama wins mid-high diff.

S2: Basically BM Minato vs Base Hashirama. Tobirama stomps.

Extra: Hashirama wins.

yeah pretty much this

 

[blazekev90]

Lawd these alters are outta control nowadays.

OT: Hashirama still wins

 

[Brother Numpsay]

These conditions aren't necessary until facing SM.

Give him prep FTG conditions/pre locations and 2 fodder Edo's, carrying pre tag weapons. That alone will be able to push Base Hashirama high diff or win high diff.

 

[Beans2]

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S1: Out of all those things, I can't think of anything that'll help him bar the Hiden Ninjutsu. Mind Transfer won't work if Hashirama uses clones to fight, since he'll have to hit the original, which isn't going to happen. Shadow Possession isn't going to bind Hashirama, considering his powerful chakra, and the fact he resisted Edo Tensei's binding. Expansion isn't going to help much, it just makes him a bigger target. Hashirama wins mid-high diff.

S2: Basically BM Minato vs Base Hashirama. Tobirama stomps.

Extra: Hashirama wins.

^^^^^^^^^^^^This

 

[EKSITE]

I say Hashirama wins the 1st ine second not sure

 

[Draegod]

Lawd these alters are outta control nowadays.

OT: Hashirama still wins

shit isn't even fun because it lacks logic to even make sense. smh

 

[BlacLord™]

shit isn't even fun because it lacks logic to even make sense. smh

No, it's not them that lack the logic, it's you who lacks the necessary brain cells for comprehension.

Let me make it simple for you: The new databook, Jin no Sho, highlighted which natures characters were able to use, and Tobirama can use all five + Yin and Yang.