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Intel: Manga
Distance: 50m
Location: Killer bee vs kisame
Mindset: bloodlusted
Who wins?
Intel: Manga
Distance: 50m
Location: Killer bee vs kisame
Mindset: bloodlusted
Who wins?
Base Hashirama vs Killer Bee,3rd Raikage and 4th Raikage
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Hashirama wins rather easily. Madara bound Killer B in Hachibi Mode with a
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and this guy was unable to do anything,
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. Hence him not being able to break out until Madara was hit with Hirudora. Hashirama does the same thing, except instead of using a generic branch, he uses
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binds B completely with much larger Mokuton tendrils and it puts Ay and the Raikage to sleep. Hashirama then finishes the Kumo team up with a couple of Mokuryu. 1 for B and 1 for Ay and his father.
The Raikages Stomp.. This overestimation of Hashirama has to stop.smh
They Would blitz the hell out of him and rip him to pieces. He does not have the speed, reflexes, or power to fight 3 raikage level shinobi. When Aye and 3rd Raikage activate V2 Armour its GG after that and killer bee doesn't need to go full bijuu, partial transformations would be enough.
Hashirama has no chance.
They Would blitz the hell out of him and rip him to pieces. He does not have the speed, reflexes, or power to fight 3 raikage level shinobi. When Aye and 3rd Raikage activate V2 Armour its GG after that and killer bee doesn't need to go full bijuu, partial transformations would be enough.
Hashirama has no chance.
The starting distance is rather short. Hashirama can react to one of them, but V2 Bee,
V2 Ay, and the Third Raikage quickly close the gap on Hashirama and attack. If Hashirama
could create a tree to give him more distance from the three, he would pound them from
there. However, with three super quick ninjas from such a short location, he blocks one,
blocks another, just to be punched elsewhere, and then get pounded by all of them, followed
by a 1 finger hell stab straight through his body. Make the distance larger, like 200 meter, and
Hashirama would take it mid-diff.
V2 Ay, and the Third Raikage quickly close the gap on Hashirama and attack. If Hashirama
could create a tree to give him more distance from the three, he would pound them from
there. However, with three super quick ninjas from such a short location, he blocks one,
blocks another, just to be punched elsewhere, and then get pounded by all of them, followed
by a 1 finger hell stab straight through his body. Make the distance larger, like 200 meter, and
Hashirama would take it mid-diff.
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You talk about overestimation, then you come here with this speed wank. Lol
-3rd Raikage couldn't even blitz SM Naruto. He has not shown to be on Ay's speed tier so don't put him there.
-Killer B, has also not shown to be on Ay's speed tier. So once again, don't put him there. Kisame was reacting to him just fine, Hashirama keeps up with Madara. Reacting to Killer B isn't going to be an issue.
-Ay is the only one you can make any kind of speed blitz argument for, and even then its completely idiotic. Ay isn't charging his Shunshin and blitzing Hashirama before he can clap his hands, from 50m. No reason to believe so when Madara was just fine against him. No reason to believe so when Madara is fast enough to overwhelm SM Naruto, and Hashirama keeps up with him. If any of these guys tries to blitz, Flower Tree World blocks them, Ay gets put to sleep like he was in canon, along with his father and Killer B, if the latter isn't in his Full Bijuu Mode.
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We finally disagree on something.
Then there's the fact that just moments earlier, bee was
Hashirama would never be able to get flower tree world around these guys as long as Bee isn't incapacitated. A single one of the Kyuubi's spammable TBBs destroyed a battlefield of jukai koutan, and the TBBs from neo pain had an AoE greater than edo madara's FTW. Then there's the fact that bee doesn't even have to destroy the entire technique in order to counter it like oonoki did.
that wasn't just a normal mokuton he used to bind bee, that was part of the mokuryuu that was absorbing BM NAruto's chakra. You can tell this by the
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something that none of the other mokuton show. Then there's the fact that just moments earlier, bee was
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. If he wasn't beaten to the ground, I doubt it would have been strong enough to hold him just like I doubt he wouldn't be capable of eradicating the technique with a TBB or TBB wave.Hashirama would never be able to get flower tree world around these guys as long as Bee isn't incapacitated. A single one of the Kyuubi's spammable TBBs destroyed a battlefield of jukai koutan, and the TBBs from neo pain had an AoE greater than edo madara's FTW. Then there's the fact that bee doesn't even have to destroy the entire technique in order to counter it like oonoki did.
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I definitely don't see what you're talking about. Mokuryu's body looks completely different from the branches that were binding Killer B. The Mokuryu's body had a
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look, and it looks nothing like the branch that was bidning B. Not to mention the Mokuryu was smashed by Naruto when he Shunshin'd out of his cloak, so the binding should have lost effect right there, but it only lost its effect when Madara was hit by Hirudora.And it was growing trees on its body due to Naruto's Yang Chakra. So I'm pretty sure those were separate.
Yeah, but later on he seemed to be fine. [
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] And Killer B attributed it binding him to the fact that it can suppress the Bijuu's power, not that he was in a weakened state.He doesn't need to be knocked out. He only needs to be bound and suppressed like Madara had him. Though I agree that Bijuu DAma would obliterate the forest.
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Hashirama Would win.
Hashirama would know that in a 3 on 1 they will have diverse techniques since he is fighting 3 different people.
So I think that the Flower world would be the most appropriate response to start out with. And Bee being the only real defense againt the tree world would obviously be out of the game as soon as he transforms or even tries to use tbb or go into v2.
But as soon as the first few seconds of the fight happen. It is game over.
Hashirama is a very powerful ninja and has fought many battles, so I doubt that he will just take them lightly and not go all out from the start.
Hashirama would know that in a 3 on 1 they will have diverse techniques since he is fighting 3 different people.
So I think that the Flower world would be the most appropriate response to start out with. And Bee being the only real defense againt the tree world would obviously be out of the game as soon as he transforms or even tries to use tbb or go into v2.
But as soon as the first few seconds of the fight happen. It is game over.
Hashirama is a very powerful ninja and has fought many battles, so I doubt that he will just take them lightly and not go all out from the start.
^ This.
Seriously though. Numbers matter little when the opponent is Hashi, EMS Madara or any other character around that level. I think the manga made this very clear.
Bee gets restrained by a Wood Dragon while the Raikages get stomped by a Wood Human, simple as that (and i'm being generous by mentioning the Wood Human).
Don't care who wins, but the mukuton is trashed by the Father and sons to free bee every single time it would try and bind him. So that strategy is literally not an option. Plus the fact Bee could just fight while in V2 untill he can instantly turn BM and nuke FTW then turn back to V2.
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Actually. To put it in the easiest terms. Hashirama could beat the Gokage. And the Gokage are a better team than the one mentioned above soooo
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And no, Flower Tree World's pollen would put them to sleep before they ever managed to free Killer B, not to mention if they tried to rescue him instead of actually getting away from the formation point of the jutsu, then they'll get crushed. Either way whether he's in V2 or BM, he still gets bound that short moment he's in Bijuu Mode.
Hashirama still wins this,
--He uses mokujin to fight the hachibi and can also use the myojinmon to subdue it, not to mention that mokuryu canoncially gave the hachibi a hell of a trouble, with these 2 other jutsus, hachibi is done for
--He can then use his mokuton variants to suck the raikages raiton armor, or can also use his constructs to overwhelm them, and can then put the trio to sleep through his flower tree world,
--He uses mokujin to fight the hachibi and can also use the myojinmon to subdue it, not to mention that mokuryu canoncially gave the hachibi a hell of a trouble, with these 2 other jutsus, hachibi is done for
--He can then use his mokuton variants to suck the raikages raiton armor, or can also use his constructs to overwhelm them, and can then put the trio to sleep through his flower tree world,
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Hashirama being blitz is complete bull shit.
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who is easily the fastest person on team cloud. Also take this into consideration Edo Madara is slightly slower than his alive self which Hashirama can fight on even grounds with. With that being said Hashirama isn't getting blitz Mokuton wood forest ends this.