Base Hashirama vs Akatsuki trio

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Team 1: Base Hashirama
Team 2: 1MS Obito, 6POP, healthy Itachi

S2: Pain is replaced by Nagato, Itachi is Edo
 

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Hashirama shits in S1 and mid diffs S2
 

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................. I dont see how Hashirama can and prevent himself from as well, while trying to fight off and an Uchiha with the

Perhaps Im lacking some vital info on hashirama's part, so could someone please explain it to me?
 

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I don't see how Base Mokujin is cutting it here. Though Hashirama can win with clones and Mayfly.
 

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A Mokujin on par with Full Kurama shits on literally every single offense or defense that they can produce. Though clones would be necessary just because of Kamui.

................. I dont see how Hashirama can and prevent himself from as well, while trying to fight off and an Uchiha with the

Perhaps Im lacking some vital info on hashirama's part, so could someone please explain it to me?

1. Clones for Kamui.
2. Mokujin busts out of CT just how KN8 did.
3. Itachi isn't even a threat since Hashirama can either wait him out, or absorb his Susanoo using Mokuryu and then kill him even if I were to believe that Yata tanks all.
 
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A Mokujin on par with Full Kurama shits on literally every single offense or defense that they can produce. Though clones would be necessary just because of Kamui.



1. Clones for Kamui.
2. Mokujin busts out of CT just how KN8 did.
3. Itachi isn't even a threat since Hashirama can either wait him out, or absorb his Susanoo using Mokuryu and then kill him even if I were to believe that Yata tanks all.

Thanks... I didnt consider Mokujin being used to counter CT or Wood Dragon to counter susanoo
 

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How does he stop a CST.....
 

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A condensed one is the jutsu quick enough?

The shockwave is visible nor is it quick. Hobi protected him from BD despite it already beginning to explode, so I'm 99% sure it's fast enough to protect him from CST.
 

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The shockwave is visible nor is it quick. Hobi protected him from BD despite it already beginning to explode, so I'm 99% sure it's fast enough to protect him from CST.

I don't think you got this during our debate either so i'm just going to say it here

-Force of CST
-Range of Normal ST (human sized) applied directly to the target.

He's shown the ability to increase force of normal ST and its range as well, no reason he can't do the same with CST. If he gets close enough he can use it directly on Hashi.
 

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I don't think you got this during our debate either so i'm just going to say it here

-Force of CST
-Range of Normal ST (human sized) applied directly to the target.

He's shown the ability to increase force of normal ST and its range as well, no reason he can't do the same with CST. If he gets close enough he can use it directly on Hashi.

I got it, and not only is it irrelevant, it's completely false. He's shown to focus the direction of his attack, he's never shown to condense it down to a single target. Not how it works. That's like saying Suiton users can condense a giant Suiton into a beam sized Suiton. As he uses more chakra, the size of the Shinra Tensei will increase, thus the amount of the repulsive force will increase, thus the AoE will increase. And please don't try to contest this, because we both know that what you are saying is a baseless opinion.

There is no "all the force of CST on a single person".

Second of all, whether or not he can do this doesn't change the fact that it will create a shockwave like it did in canon nor will it change the fact that Hashirama would tank it with Hobi. :lol You kept repeating the same old "there will be no shockwave because it's smaller" argument when:

1. It's not smaller.
2. The shockwave appeared because of the amount of force.

Unless CST uses less force when Nagato uses it in a single direction, the shockwave will appear and Hashirama will tank it. He can try to get close before he does so, but that's not going to happen due to:

-Mokujin.
-Mokuton Forests.

Hashirama mid diffs Nagato at best.
 
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That's not the best trio

Include Deidara, Nagato and itachi (if you include Obito, replace Itachi).

They need huge distractions in order for Deidara to sneak in for the kill.

Outside of The organization, I still say Deidara, Garra and Muu/Onoki defeat base Hashirama

SN: Hashirama defeats Nagato w/ moderate diff?!? Nagato doesn't get his credit, Nagato pushes base Hashirama high difficulty.
 
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Lol tNagato starts the fight with Bansho Tenin and Obito follows up with Juubi sized Katon, it's not like they have to wait for Hashirama to pull out every construct in his arsenal. Also, Chou Shinra Tensei can turn this into BFR, a concentrated one shits on Hashirama's defences and sends him to the Arctic.
 

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Hashirama wins
 
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