[Discussion] Barto cannont join the straw hats (DF break down)

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But there are three canonical characters that do fit
Foku Foku No mi (Clothes Clothes Fruit) OR Kinemon's Unnamed fruit that summons clothing
Niyku Nikyu no mi (Paw Paw Fruit) bartholomew Kuma
Niko Niko No mi (Smile fruit) ANY Smiley fruit user fits and the one we know of Momonosuke would fit
@bold: No, you edited it wrong... i said Fuku fuku no mi. Fuku=Clothes, my friend.
 

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@bold: No, you edited it wrong... i said Fuku fuku no mi. Fuku=Clothes, my friend.
DAMMIT!
Except that hardly matters. Barto may not fit into the pattern, but him being there doesn't mean the pattern wouldn't be fullfilled. You'd just have the pattern+Barto and maybe more.
it totally matters! Patterns are all that matters at the end.
Its not a prophecy waiting to be "fulfilled" its a pattern that needs to be appeased.

Oda is famous for his word play Too bad most of it is lost in translation but the pattern is a recurring event and trumps the idea that he will join because you like him.

Its not saying he cant its more saying that there is evidence strongly against it.
 

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people keep on mentioning barto's crew, where are they? they are fodder who are probably dead right now.

he is the only one in dressrosa who should join the SH crew.
^^^ Agree with this

Who says only people that complete the pattern can join? How do you know Barto won't join and then a later DF fills in the pattern?
Because he hates bartolomeo for some reason. Barto is the most likely person on desrossa to join:

1. Violet, Rebecca, and Kyros just got there family back and need to fix their country to the way it was.

2. Momo and kinemon were just reunited as well, so its very unlikely kinemon is just about to leave his son, or let his son travel alone with the SH's (bad parenting)

3. Sabu is second in command of the Rev's, there is no way he is leaving that large organization just to sail with luffy. He owes dragon his life.
 

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^^^ Agree with this
Because he hates bartolomeo for some reason. Barto is the most likely person on desrossa to join:

1. Violet, Rebecca, and Kyros just got there family back and need to fix their country to the way it was.

2. Momo and kinemon were just reunited as well, so its very unlikely kinemon is just about to leave his son, or let his son travel alone with the SH's (bad parenting)

3. Sabu is second in command of the Rev's, there is no way he is leaving that large organization just to sail with luffy. He owes dragon his life.
One interview with oda said that he will have 2 crew members join at once. But I dont hate barto. I just hate the idea of seeing him every week. And the thing I hate most is that I would end up loving him the way I love the rest of the straw hats.
 

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The number pattern Oda follows isn't 1 to 10. Its 0 to 10.

The numbers left are 0, 2, 9 which together, means Moku Moku in Kanji.

Remove kanji and translate to English, it means I AM SMOKER.

Still don't fully accept it though. Just can't see Smoker as a fullblown SH.

But yeah Barto ain't joining. He hasn't been foreshadowed and has nothing in common with Zoro and Choppeer in terms of introduction.
 

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The number pattern Oda follows isn't 1 to 10. Its 0 to 10.

The numbers left are 0, 2, 9 which together, means Moku Moku in Kanji.

Remove kanji and translate to English, it means I AM SMOKER.

Still don't fully accept it though. Just can't see Smoker as a fullblown SH.

But yeah Barto ain't joining. He hasn't been foreshadowed and has nothing in common with Zoro and Choppeer in terms of introduction.
.... I am smoker... Mind blown...
 

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One interview with oda said that he will have 2 crew members join at once. But I dont hate barto. I just hate the idea of seeing him every week. And the thing I hate most is that I would end up loving him the way I love the rest of the straw hats.

HAHAHAHAHA

But he would bring a comedic vibe to the straw hats, and I really just want to join so i can see him seriously rage if someone tried to attack luffy. I feel as though he is alot stronger that what we have seen so far.

Imagine Barto, Zoro, Chopper, Robin, Brook, and Sanji all raging on someone who went after luffy.
 

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HAHAHAHAHA

But he would bring a comedic vibe to the straw hats, and I really just want to join so i can see him seriously rage if someone tried to attack luffy. I feel as though he is alot stronger that what we have seen so far.

Imagine Barto, Zoro, Chopper, Robin, Brook, and Sanji all raging on someone who went after luffy.
... Barto is fodder...
Usopp > Barto
 

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Sorry to bust it to you but the straw hats have numerical system to their DF's

Luffy→ Gomu Gomu→ rubber→ 5(go) 6(mu)→ 5656
Chopper→ hito hito→ human→1(hi) 10(to)→ 110110
Robin→ Hana Hana→ flower→ 8(ha) 7(na)→ 8787
Brooke→ yomi yomi→ revival/ afterworld→ 4(yo) 3(mi)→4343​

The only number missing is 2 and 9 and Bari Bari Doesn't fit in the slightest.
Nor does Bellamy's fruit Or any other person with a devil fruit.

But there are three canonical characters that do fit
Fuku Fuku No mi (Clothes Clothes Fruit) OR Kinemon's Unnamed fruit that summons clothing
Niyku Nikyu no mi (Paw Paw Fruit) bartholomew Kuma
Niko Niko No mi (Smile fruit) ANY Smiley fruit user fits and the one we know of Momonosuke would fit

2 Ni, Niy, fu
9 Ko Ku

Which would fill in the pattern giving them all the numbers so the final count down being for the only df users that could join without throwing the pattern out of balance are -
  • Momo
  • Kinemon
  • Kuma
Pick your poison
IT can't be Kinemon OR Momo because they come as a pair and that would throw the key out of order. No way Kin let's Momo go again after risking Punk Hazard to get him back. And Kuma is highly unlikely to ever return against the marines.
 

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Rebecca, Violet, and Kyros are worst then barto.

And If barto does join the crew, that automatically makes him stronger than usopp. Wasnt you who said that Oda stated that "Usopp will always be the weakest strawhat."
No it was oda that said usopp will always be the weakest.
Since Barto sucks more than Usopp he is fodder and will never join.
 
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