Bansho Tenin Databook IV translation, [Bansho Tening works on intangible person]

[BLAZE]

Who is this genuis? It's also cool how you didn't take credit.I'm like that aswell,of i didn't do something,i don't take the credit.

Sugiyama

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Good luck if u think gravity of earth or whatever which others where able to resist is equal to gravity of something dats pulling u


Dat sig XD

If they were able to resist gravity that held down RIKUDO NARUTO and KAGUYA the gravity effects of Bt is nothing to them.

 

[Draphsin]

People who believe deva's abilities don't work on obito: He would be able to fly while intangible if he wasn't affected by the real world's gravity. ST affects him, however it doesn't do anything to him since he won't make an impact with anything or he can just teleport away before he does. ST is useless regardless if it works or not.

 

[BLAZE]

If they were able to resist gravity that held down RIKUDO NARUTO and KAGUYA the gravity effects of Bt is nothing to them.

or the gravity worked on chakra batteries

People who believe deva's abilities don't work on obito: He would be able to fly while intangible if he wasn't affected by the real world's gravity. ST affects him, however it doesn't do anything to him since he won't make an impact with anything or he can just teleport away before he does. ST is useless regardless if it works or not.

i agree with this

 

[AlphaScythian]

People who believe deva's abilities don't work on obito: He would be able to fly while intangible if he wasn't affected by the real world's gravity. ST affects him, however it doesn't do anything to him since he won't make an impact with anything or he can just teleport away before he does. ST is useless regardless if it works or not.

You have to consider that intangibility is basically partial-full body teleportation, so its like saying it would affect FTG.

Hell no, Obito escapes any jutsu effect due to being in whole different dimension beyond the grasp of any sensor.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

or the gravity worked on chakra batteries




i agree with this

So you're just gonna adopt other ppl's theories without proof?

 

[Draphsin]

You have to consider that intangibility is basically partial-full body teleportation, so its like saying it would affect FTG.

Hell no, Obito escapes any jutsu effect due to being in whole different dimension beyond the grasp of any sensor.

Hey, if obito could defy gravity while intangible then I'd agree, but we can't just ignore the fact that he still walks on land even while intangible so it's unlikely that a force of gravity wouldn't affect him.

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[BenjerminGaye]

People who believe deva's abilities don't work on obito: He would be able to fly while intangible if he wasn't affected by the real world's gravity. ST affects him, however it doesn't do anything to him since he won't make an impact with anything or he can just teleport away before he does. ST is useless regardless if it works or not.

If he was effected by gravity while intangible he wouldn't have the ability to rise through ceilings and pillars. Only Kishi knows why he hasn't attempted flight. But based on what's already been shown gravity dosent effect him.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Hey, if obito could defy gravity while intangible then I'd agree, but we can't just ignore the fact that he still walks on land even while intangible so it's unlikely that a force of gravity wouldn't affect him.

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Obito cannot levitate because gravity in other world affects him anyway, however he has shown some sorcery to move while even fully intangible, my guess its the same sorcery that keeps his body intact while his head is in one dimension and rest in another.

Kamui HAX is not easy to break down, but one thing is certain, no jutsu will work on intangibility unless it can affect multiple dimensions and one of which being kamui.

 

[Angelic.]

if nv gravity affected intangible obito, wouldnt he fall through the earth forever and die? lmao.

but science=/=manga

 

[BenjerminGaye]

if nv gravity affected intangible obito, wouldnt he fall through the earth forever and die? lmao.

but science=/=manga

Exactly. Yet instead of falling he's actually risen though pillars and floors on multiple occasions.

He wouldn't even make it to the earth's core since it's taking more than 5 minutes to get down there at terminal velocity.

 

[Draphsin]

If he was effected by gravity while intangible he wouldn't have the ability to rise through ceilings and pillars.

Obito's dimension consists of platforms that are

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in height, what's to say that some of those platforms are just slightly below the surface of whatever he's phasing through?

Only Kishi knows why he hasn't attempted flight. But based on what's already been shown gravity dosent effect him.

Obito has no pillars that are above the real world's surface, that much is for sure. So yes it would be illogical for him to fly for that reason.

It's already been established what intangibility does, it teleports parts [

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] to his dimension if it overlaps with something in the real world. Meaning if his whole body is inside his dimension then he'd be using his dimension to travel around, & since we don't know how far below the surface some of those platforms actually are we can logically conclude that he has some that are close to it. Thus making it look like he's rising above the ground.

As a final note, obito was completely intangible in the above scan with naruto, therefore if what you say is true then he should've [or at least attempted to] change his trajectory, yet he knew he was screwed from the moment he saw naruto. Simple answer? He had no platforms to move between.

 

[Angelic.]

i forgot about the platforms but if hes on them hes standing in kamuis gravity not nv

 

[Draphsin]

This "diagram" basically demonstrates what I'm saying.

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i forgot about the platforms but if hes on them hes standing in kamuis gravity not nv

Only if his whole body is overlapping with something, because during his fight with konan he was still falling despite phasing through explosive tags.

Or possibly the majority of his body has to be in the real world in order for it to work.

 

[AlphaScythian]

This diagram basically demonstrates what I'm saying.

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Only if his whole body is overlapping with something, because during his fight with konan he was still falling despite phasing through explosive tags.

Or possibly the majority of his body has to be in the real world in order for it to work.

I have to say that this theory of kamui platform doesnt cut it as when he was intangible vs konan he was still falling.

When he was inside hachibi fist he walked out of it on NV surface not random leaps in air.

So sorcery. We cant explain everything. Its probably done due to aesthetic purposes.

 

[adeshina365]

There is no room for ambiguity in the translation. BT, ST and CT are unavoidable.

 

[Angelic.]

i'll just like all your guys' posts for effort *shrugs*

 

[AlphaScythian]

There is no room for ambiguity in the translation. BT, ST and CT are unavoidable.

Did you say room for wank?

 

[Draphsin]

I have to say that this theory of kamui platform doesnt cut it as when he was intangible vs konan he was still falling.

Obito falling during the fight with konan supports what I'm saying, he was affected by the real world gravity but he was intangible & still phasing through objects.

Since konan opened the ground, that means he wasn't able to reach his dimension where his platforms normally would be.

When he was inside hachibi fist he walked out of it on NV surface not random leaps in air.

Possible that some of the platforms are flush with the real world's surface, not shown in the image but just picture some of the pillars touching the surface instead of all of them being below it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Obito's dimension consists of platforms that are

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in height, what's to say that some of those platforms are just slightly below the surface of whatever he's phasing through?

That would be assuming that the world is 1 to 1 with his dimension, and it would assume that every time he passes through the floor or ceiling his body is conveniently on top of a floor that matches his specific and exact needs.

Obito has no pillars that are above the real world's surface, that much is for sure.

If they were all below the real worlds surface(at various depths) he wouldn't be able to use it so freely below sea level as he's done since he'd run the risk of running into his own pillars. An example would be him using kamui to avoid konan's papaer ocean while falling. He was well below surface and sea level yet still used kamui without bumping into his own pillars.

So yes it would be illogical for him to fly for that reason.

I'd say he can't fly because he has nothing to stand on. Unless something is forcing him to overlap with somthing above sea level then he wouldn't have the ability. You're right on that regard.

It's already been established what intangibility does, it teleports parts [

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] to his dimension if it overlaps with something in the real world. Meaning if his whole body is inside his dimension then he'd be using his dimension to travel around, & since we don't know how far below the surface some of those platforms actually are we can logically conclude that he has some that are close to it

Wouldn't that mean he's simply succumbing to the gravity of his own dimension? If he's existing in his dimension he'd be forced to land on his pillars. But seeing as how what he did vs Fuu is well above water/earth level it would go against your assumption that all pillars are below said level.

Thus making it look like he's rising above the ground.

As a final note, obito was completely intangible in the above scan with naruto, therefore if what you say is true then he should've [or at least attempted to] change his trajectory, yet he knew he was screwed from the moment he saw naruto. Simple answer? He had no platforms to move between.

I get what you're saying about him not being able to fly it's logically sound. But the convenience of the pillars being exactly at the levels he needs them to be whenever he passes himself or other objects between dimensions sounds like bs to me. Considering that his dimension is both 1 to 1 with earth (kakashi warping things in the exact location he went intangible and it appearing in the exact location he went intangible to) yet endless(I think db said that) while having pillars deep below and deep above earth/sea level. Seems to coincidental.