Banbutsu Sōzō issue

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

I would like to both clarify and ask a few issues about Banbutsu Sōzō (Creation of All Things), because a lot of obscurantism involves it.




Refering to the concept of "creation" present in the the jutsu:


There are two ways of interpreting the concept of "creation":

1- Producing something from something already existing.
2- Producing something from nothingness.

It may seem that the interpretation that can be aplied to the jutsu is the second one, thus let's remember the definition of such jutsu (and notice the use of the word nothingness):

Banbutsu Sōzō is a jutsu that involves the use of Yin (spiritual energy) to create phisical forms from nothingness, and the use of Yang (phisical energy) to imbue such forms with life.


But it has been proved that this jutsu doesn't work that way, because Hagoromo, in order to create the Bijuu, he had to use as raw material the chakra of the Juubi, thus that chakra didn't come from nothingness.




Refering to the way the jutsu works:


Banbutsu Sōzō is a jutsu that involves the use of Yin (spiritual energy) to create phisical forms from nothingness, and the use of Yang (phisical energy) to imbue such forms with life.


And here is the question that gnaws me: there are two interpretations of this.


1- Yin is the capability to bring forth in the "real" plane to the things imagined, and Yang the capability to imbue such things with life.
2- Yin is the capability to imagine something and Yang the capability to bring forth the aformentioned thing in the "real" plane (if this is the case, then the fact of adding life is just optional).


I think the correct interpretation is the first one. however, the second one seems more logical and more interesting; don't you think so?





Please comment so that we all may achieve a better conprehension of this issue.

Thanks for reading. I hope you have enjoyed :bye:

 

[mohdzarif]

I think it's clear though that the first interpretation is the correct one.

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[Sentinel of Light Style]

From what they have told us about it, the second one seems to be how Kishi intends it. Also, if we assume that the second one is the correct explanation, then I would also say that Naruto's last power-up did indeed grant him CoAT or at the very least a weakened version of it.

 

[mohdzarif]

I made a theory of how exactly Banbutsu Souzou works, with the theory that Naruto used the same jutsu to create Kakashi's eye.

I think it's clear that the first interpretation is the correct one.

My theory is in the quote below.

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First of all, the fact that Naruto having Gudoudama (those black balls) may indicate that he is able to use Inyouton/Onmyouton (Yin-Yang Release)*.

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*Inyouton = Onmyouton.

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It's the combination of Inton (Yin Release) and Youton (Yang Release). Inton + Youton = Inyouton.

Banbutsu Souzou (Creation of All Things) is an Inyouton (Yin-Yang Release) jutsu that was once used by Hagoromo to create Bijuus from the Juubi's chakra.

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With Inton (Yin Release), he created the 9 Bijuus forms from the chakra of the Juubi and with Youton (Yang Release), he breathed life into the 9 Bijuus.

This is what Naruto explained to Sakura:
"I took a part of Kakashi Sensei and kinda...."

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What he meant by a part of Kakashi is a small portion of Kakashi's chakra. Just like Hagoromo created the Bijuus from Juubi's chakra using Banbutsu Souzou (Creation of All Things), Naruto was doing the same thing.
1. Naruto took a small portion of Kakashi's chakra and with Inton (Yin Release), he created the form of Kakashi's eye.
2. With Youton (Yang Release), he breathed life into that eye.

Naruto used Banbutsu Souzou (Creation of All Things). Basically, Hagoromo gave or taught this jutsu to Naruto.

Juubi Jin Madara and Obito probably know this jutsu as well. Madara probably regenerated himself using this jutsu.


Additional note:

The scan says that Inton (Yin Release) can be used to create form out of "nothing" but what it's really mean by "nothing"? Hagoromo used Juubi's chakra to create the Bijuus.

I think the word "nothing" means the absence of anything physical. And chakra isn't physical. That explains how Hagoromo used Creation of All Things to create Bijuus from the Juubi's chakra. He didn't just create them without any resources at all.

That's how I came to the conclusion that Naruto took Kakashi's chakra, like how Hagoromo took Juubi's chakra.

 

[Seventh Sama]

I think the second one is the more likely one because it fits the description of " the power
To make fantasy into reality ".