Ay and Madara

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People still don't know that Madara used tsukuyomi on Ay...... O_O..... lmaoo. Yes he just specially turned on his EMS to do a normal sharingan genjutsu.. X_X

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possibly but usually the user has to stay still or something, all I know was that it was quick since only itachi has time control power there xd
 

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possibly but usually the user has to stay still or something, all I know was that it was quick since only itachi has time control power there xd

Ay was still. o-o Until Onoki broke him out of it.
 

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Which further adds on to the possibility of Madara having Amaterasu.
 

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His EMS was activated because he was using susanoo.............& you cant cast genjutsu with the rinnegan...

Madara cant use tsukuyomi, if he did it there then A would be dead.
 

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Sasuke used a normal genjutsu on zesty clone while having his EMS on, so Madara also did the same thing, which makes this thread wrong.
 

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His EMS was activated because he was using susanoo.............& you cant cast genjutsu with the rinnegan...

Madara cant use tsukuyomi, if he did it there then A would be dead.

Danzo died from Tsukuyomi right? o_O.

Sasuke used a normal genjutsu on zesty clone while having his EMS on, so Madara also did the same thing, which makes this thread wrong.

So your saying:

Sasuke > MAdara as a Uchiha and sharingan master?
 

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His EMS was activated because he was using susanoo.............

Madara cant use tsukuyomi, if he did it there then A would be dead.

He more than likely does have it just a weak version of it, one that doesn't compare to Itachi's. Madara has always been a Susano'o specialist.

OT: I thought infinite Tsukuyomi was proof enough that Madara had Tsukuyomi as he planned to use it to cast this genjutsu on everyone after reflecting his eyes off the moon, right?

So your saying:

Sasuke > MAdara as a Uchiha and sharingan master?

He wasn't saying that at all, just that he disagreed that was Tsukuyomi, no need to twist words man :|
 
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So your saying:

Sasuke > MAdara as a Uchiha and sharingan master?

He wasn't saying that at all, just that he disagreed that was Tsukuyomi, no need to twist words man :|
 

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Both Madara & Obito obviously 100% have Tsyukyomi, seeing as how their ultimate plan is to use the damn jutsu on the moon.
 

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His EMS was activated because he was using susanoo.............& you cant cast genjutsu with the rinnegan...

Madara cant use tsukuyomi, if he did it there then A would be dead.
Every MS(both eyes) user can use Amatarasu,Tsukitomi and Susano......................
 

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He more than likely does have it just a weak version of it, one that doesn't compare to Itachi's. Madara has always been a Susano'o specialist.

OT: I thought infinite Tsukuyomi was proof enough that Madara had Tsukuyomi as he planned to use it to cast this genjutsu on everyone after reflecting his eyes off the moon, right?

one would think people would get it, but they still don't, and need it to be stated in the manga that Madara has tsukuyomi. But i mean yea, if the guy clearly says his plan is to use Tsukuyomi but to a grand scale.. i'm pretty sure he would need to have the jutsu first lol.
Both Madara & Obito obviously 100% have Tsyukyomi, seeing as how their ultimate plan is to use the damn jutsu on the moon.
yet your denying it.. o_O
 

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why doesn't madara ever use amataresu its pretty strong
 

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He more than likely does have it just a weak version of it, one that doesn't compare to Itachi's. Madara has always been a Susano'o specialist.

It doesnt matter if he's a susanoo specialist. Madara has had the sharingan for his whole life, he wouldn't disgrace himself or the uchiha name (who are known for their powerful genjutsu) by having a mediocre genjutsu, he would obviously train to use it more proficiently.

Also, madara can cast powerful genjutsu with an eye that isnt even his own. Madara is a powerful genjutsu user as well, but this doesnt mean that he has tsukuyomi. There isnt even such a thing as a "lesser" version of it.

OT: I thought infinite Tsukuyomi was proof enough that Madara had Tsukuyomi as he planned to use it to cast this genjutsu on everyone after reflecting his eyes off the moon, right?

I can prove that I/T =/= tsukuyomi:

Tsukuyomi is a jutsu that is exclusive to Itachi, no other uchiha has been shown to possess this ability, not even sasuke (arguable).

When madara explains to obito the plan to cast I/T he goes on to demonstrate the genjutsu:

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Now look closely, you can clearly see madara using a 3-T sharingan for "this" genjutsu, now in the next scan you see madara explaining it further:

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Here you can clearly see madara explaining that he can use "this" genjutsu on the moon, thus controlling everyone ("this" genjutsu being a regular 3-T).

This proves that madara only needs a 3-T sharingan in order to perform I/T & it also proves that tsukuyomi is a completely different genjutsu (other than the name).

The juubi merely strengthens the genjutsu & makes it last forever.

Madara can't use tsukuyomi, he doesnt need it for I/T & he has never shown it.

Every MS(both eyes) user can use Amatarasu,Tsukitomi and Susano......................

...................................................Shisui proves you wrong...
 

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So your saying:

Sasuke > MAdara as a Uchiha and sharingan master?

WTF? I was talking about how Madara didn't use tskuyomi on ay, what does sasuke gotta do with him beating madara. You clearly are an idiot
 

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Yup people hate to see the facts
 

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I was excited when that happened, Madara uses the Rinnengan too often.
 
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