Atheism and religion

[Michelle]

Religion is for idiots... sinple as that. Sadly there will always be idiots...

Religion and beliefs are differents. I'm not so religious, but i believe in God. Is just one, no matter how you call him.

Ok if you know something is out of context then why would you use it as evidence... the context is always important

I wish i can put jihad in a proper context but i cant. About muslims i am an ignorant and i only see the effects. The cause is between the context though...
Inquisition and conquer land just to force people to have your religion was vary bad in christian history, and muslims now are not better. Religion with the goal of conquer and domine the world is the worst thing in humanity.

I'm too lazy to write more but i can tell you more. I have read here on NB many very strong oppinion better explained. These threads are closing always fast

 

[JENchuuriki]

Hmm, it’s not coincidence. For me it’s the outcome/effects.

I think it's how more developed the countries are, people are more consumed by the materialistic possessions they have. They want to have more and eventually lose contentment. Or it could be that with being modernized, they are more open to the world and its offer. – With this, people can either lose their faith into a much greater power because they think they can achieved something like that too. Or lose time to pray and think about God. Or caught their attention to other things, mostly bad things... I guess. Because it lacks morality direction (religion).

Whereas, being in a poor country or lifestyle, you don’t have much to cling to. The feeling of nothingness. You appreciate the things that are there with you in the first place, not necessarily material things. It can be your relationships perhaps. - With this all they could think of help is their God, which shares their compassion and give them mercy and grace.

 

[Marin]

i think i just lost a few braincells from reading this.. theres so much wrong with this post i dont even know where to start.. and i dont even want to. You just proved youre not worth my time(funny how it always ends this way, theres simply no limit to stupidity, how am i gonna fight that?)
have fun believing in santa and spread your hate.

Its hilarious how youd devote time to bash others but when they fight back you take the hollier than thou attitude.

Before calling others idiots stop being an idiot yourself.

 

[Deadlift]

Atheism on the majority when?

 

[Deadlift]

i think i just lost a few braincells from reading this.. theres so much wrong with this post i dont even know where to start.. and i dont even want to. You just proved youre not worth my time(funny how it always ends this way, theres simply no limit to stupidity, how am i gonna fight that?)
have fun believing in santa and spread your hate.

"spread your hate"

 

[Phact]

Religion and beliefs are differents. I'm not so religious, but i believe in God. Is just one, no matter how you call him.

I wish i can put jihad in a proper context but i cant. About muslims i am an ignorant and i only see the effects. The cause is between the context though...
Inquisition and conquer land just to force people to have your religion was vary bad in christian history, and muslims now are not better. Religion with the goal of conquer and domine the world is the worst thing in humanity.

I'm too lazy to write more but i can tell you more. I have read here on NB many very strong oppinion better explained. These threads are closing always fast

Muslims have usually fought in self defense throught history. The verses people always take from the quran is a verse that tells the muslims to defend themselves against the arabs that were persecuting them and their families. Islam is a peaceful religion but not a pacifist religion, so that is why I said not to take things out of context to the OP.

This is a quote from Mahatma Gandhi on Islam

“I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind… I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.”

 

[Karna]

All these replies in this thread..

Religion isn't least of you people's problems.

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

Muslims have usually fought in self defense throught history. The verses people always take from the quran is a verse that tells the muslims to defend themselves against the arabs that were persecuting them and their families. Islam is a peaceful religion but not a pacifist religion, so that is why I said not to take things out of context to the OP.

This is a quote from Mahatma Gandhi on Islam

“I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind… I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.”

@ Bold: I agree.

 

[LordRaikage]

What does 10 asterisks mean?


I doubt you do. The whole idea of praying for forgiveness is your own selfishness.

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That's hilarious considering you need to pray to a God to be relevant in your life. You have to hold your hands and spout some words of guidance because you are hopeless and pathetic, while chanting the famous words of "please forgive me, I have sinned" because you don't know how to do shit on your own without going to your God. According to you, without your God, you are nothing, but I didn't need to figure that out from you. Your words and how much bullshit you are spouting led me to that conclusion.

Just a loud ape that gets butthurt when people shit on your ridiculous morals.


Aren't Christians supposed to be civil? But here you are, getting asshurt because I insulted your God. You're not a Christian. Just a wannabe follower that thinks he knows the way of his God, when your whole idea God is contradictory to begin with.


Prove that he exists firsts before making stupid assumptions.

And even if he did somehow exist, I doubt your retarded ass would be accepted by him, considering the bat-rage language you are using right now, I doubt he would accept that.

You're pretty much doing the exact opposite of what your God intends.


You can't even make a proper sentence without sounding like an idiot.

Nice going you wannabe believer.

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Didn't even waste my time reading your shit...go back to eating it to lowlife scrub.

 

[Dannie]

Didn't even waste my time reading your shit...go back to eating it to lowlife scrub.

Nice argument you got there. I guess you can't even back up your retarded claim.

Go back to asking your lord and savior to give you enough strength to come up with a decent argument.

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[FreakensteinAG]

Hi guys, stable and sensible person who does not take emotional pages from Sasuke or Shadow the Hedgehog here.

Atheism/irreligion is prevalent and still on the rise in developed, modern nations, i.e; North America, Europe, etc...whereas Sub-developed or impoverished areas have been shown to be the opposite.

Are these coincidences? Discuss.

The correlation (but not the causation) is the Internet. The Internet is a massive place full of discussions. We challenge and learn on the Internet, which causes some to embrace or change their outlooks on life.

Look at this pretty map of the world based on Internet access:

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Where there is high Internet usage, there is prosperity, growth, knowledge, and wealth of all kinds. Where there is little to no Internet use, there is poverty, oppression, war, etc (uninhabitable places like the Outback of Australia and the Arctic North can be omitted).

Now let's look at the same globe but with the case of religious prevalence:

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You can see that in most of the same places, the Internet-saturated countries are also the countries which have lesser focus on religion than those with no internet usage. See Africa? The previously-dark continent from the above map is now bright and dark red in the second.

As was said before, the Internet does not cause people to not be religious, but the Internet is present in places with high standards of living where people can focus less on living and more on being wise. The Internet does help (if you allow it) people become wise. Millions of terabytes out there as well as thousands of people to communicate and discuss issues. That is how progression starts.

 

[Xlad]

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[LordRaikage]

Nice argument you got there. I guess you can't even back up your retarded claim.

Go back to asking your lord and savior to give you enough strength to come up with a decent argument.

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Didn't i tell you to go **** yourself?...

So What are you doing here...Go **** yourself.

 

[Dannie]

Didn't i tell you to go **** yourself?...

So What are you doing here...Go **** yourself.

Lmao you sound mad buddy? Did your god not answer your prayers?

 

[Deadlift]

Hi guys, stable and sensible person who does not take emotional pages from Sasuke or Shadow the Hedgehog here.



The correlation (but not the causation) is the Internet. The Internet is a massive place full of discussions. We challenge and learn on the Internet, which causes some to embrace or change their outlooks on life.

I'm glad you specified that was the correlation and not the causation. While I agree that Internet is an awesome place to challenge and learn new things, I have to point out that Internet is, potentially, accessible by everyone. Thus, Internet has developed a "dark side", i.e an immense pool into throw bullshits.
That's why you wouldn't give much credibility to one who claims to be an expert in something who formed browsing websites.

Look at this pretty map of the world based on Internet access:

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Where there is high Internet usage, there is prosperity, growth, knowledge, and wealth of all kinds. Where there is little to no Internet use, there is poverty, oppression, war, etc (uninhabitable places like the Outback of Australia and the Arctic North can be omitted).

Now let's look at the same globe but with the case of religious prevalence:

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You can see that in most of the same places, the Internet-saturated countries are also the countries which have lesser focus on religion than those with no internet usage. See Africa? The previously-dark continent from the above map is now bright and dark red in the second.

As was said before, the Internet does not cause people to not be religious, but the Internet is present in places with high standards of living where people can focus less on living and more on being wise. The Internet does help (if you allow it) people become wise. Millions of terabytes out there as well as thousands of people to communicate and discuss issues. That is how progression starts.

I believe your whole speech about the first map is totally unquestionable. It's just logical one wouldn't spend his time on the Internet when has nothing to eat, or simply lacks the technology to access Internet (computers, wifi connection etc..).
But I believe your second map needs to get updated. While for most states the situation can have stayed the same, other states saw an incredible growth (or loss) in religion.
Let's take Russia and ex Soviet Union. Their religiosity was pretty nerfed by almost 80 years of forced Atheism. But now the situation has changed, even from your 2006 map. Those countries are experimenting the so called "Orthodox spring", a sort of religious rebirth which brought Russia to a 88% percentage of believers in 2012. Here, the "poor=religious" axiom doesn't work. Russia has changed a lot its attitude, switching from "the giant with foots of clay" to the super potency it is right now. Prosperity is always higher, violent crime is in the cities incredibly below the average of European cities, it has become a huge tourist destination, culture is on the rise, as well as business.
Obviously, this doesn't imply causation in any sense, it was just to answer the postulation that religious means poor, raw and ignorant.

OT: Let's not confuse, anyway, the abandon of religiosity with the gain of rationality.
Italy is a country that indeed is secularizing, even if the map says the opposite. As in the rest of Europe, is hard to find a believer in Italy. Yes, you have lots of people who define themselves Catholic, but they mean culturally Catholic. Which means they're baptized, and they keep Catholicism as their main culture, but are de facto non religious. And I mean a 63,3% of cultural Catholic against a 36% of devote Christians (can't find the percentage of devoted Catholic Christians).
Well, if Italy has about 68 millions of inhabitant, could you believe that 10 millions of people frequents fortune tellers every year?
I don't find it very rational

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Didn't i tell you to go **** yourself?...

So What are you doing here...Go **** yourself.

Lmao you sound mad buddy? Did your god not answer your prayers?

Lmfao!!!