At the moment who's stronger Boruto or Sarada?

[salamander uchiha]

I'm sitting here wondering why I've been posting scans to your face and you somehow pretend not to read them. Shikadai literally said "phew that was a close one" right before he stopped Boruto from striking him with his palm. It's pretty obvious that if Shikadai didn't have the ability to expand his shadow, he would of lost. And if Boruto used something more than just the shadow clones, which he's shown capable of doing since before the Chunin Exams. He wouldn't have been taken down. Even the narrative of the story states that the match was undecided on both sides, however.


All I see are your excuses. Boruto used one technique in that match. Lucky for Shikadai.


And I repeat, Boruto lost to Shikadai using one technique whilst Shikadai used two. Anyone with a brain knows that Shikadai would lose to current Boruto, regardless what your reaching with currently.

Sarada couldn't even react to Academy Shikadai's shadow possession (not even an expanding shadow circle) and you're comparing his match to Boruto. That just shows how idiotic you are, though.

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And concession accepted.

So you've got nothing but fanfic then all that's proven is Boruto can't beat a faster opponent. That was a close one means exactly what is does if I sacked off with my plan I would've gotten hit. It doesn't mean Boruto magically made it in and was going to hit me.
I'm still waiting for the scans that confirm that shikidai says he won because of his ace? Or that it was a close fight?

Posting about academy Sarada from the anime and using Boruto novels to prove speed there isn't any low you'd stoop to try and save face. Especially when we're discussing the manga.

Accept the facts Shikidai speed 112 beat Boruto who was using 4 shadow clones and caught all of them and their locatuon clearly without sharingan. As for Boruto not using other jutsu that's his fault he's foolish enough not to either that or he's just all hype.
Sarada with 130 speed, CES, sharingan with its abilities , shuriken jutsu 4 in Marksmanship and ninjutsu kbowledge and IQ to boot would lose. A slower opponent beats Boruto but a faster 1 with a kekkei genkai boost would lose.
at the fanfic.

 

[lndra]

You can argue about everything else, and even hurl desultory insults. You still can't refute the discrepancy of the claim that Sarada who has far superior Taijutsu to Shikadai can't keep up with Boruto and his copies. Shikadai didn't even have some heightened vision, and yet did just fine. Yet, Sarada cannot.

Shikadai was not keeping up with Boruto and his copies, he needed to to expand his shadow to stop him completely otherwise he would of lost. He states that it was a close one right before he stops him completely.

You're somehow insinuating that Sarada would be able to stop Boruto and paralyze his movements in one full swoop, but that's not possible. The fight actually showcased who would of won in that exchange if Shikadai and Boruto sticked to one technique.

Why do I even bother.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Salamander:
"BORUTO LOST TO SHIKADAI WITH ALL THAT AGILITY AND SPEED, SO MUCH FODDER"

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Rofl :lol



Where was it stated that 'Shikadai' was keeping up with Boruto in CQC? Last time I checked Boruto was dodging his shadow possession jutsu technique, almost hit him before the shadow expanded. To which Shikadai even stated so.

This fandom never ceases to surprise me at how slow they are :Sparks:

Going by the first scan, Shikadai could at least dodge his attacks. That's enough to say Sarada should also be able to.

 

[FuriousAngels]

One thing im gonna say... this is impossible ...

 

[salamander uchiha]

Why are people even debating this?

Because fapboy indra loves fapping Boruto aand when a question is raised he can't stomach it.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

It actually does. Intelligence qualifies as a form of strength. Unless you're going to tell me the Nara Clan is weak, cause none of them could even beat anyone if not for their tactics and wit. Thus why it's wiser to not overlook the intelligence of the fighter and consider all the aspects essentially, as Sasuke could never have won against Naruto if not for his quick thinking and wits.

Yea... except people are using that to judge how sarada would fare against boruto sarada>shikadai>boruto is what the people against boruto seem to think but that's simple abc logic that doesn't work in this case, shikadai could very well do the same to sarada

 

[salamander uchiha]

You can argue about everything else, and even hurl desultory insults. You still can't refute the discrepancy of the claim that Sarada who has far superior Taijutsu to Shikadai can't keep up with Boruto and his copies. Shikadai didn't even have some heightened vision, and yet did just fine. Yet, Sarada cannot.

He can't accept that his ego would take a massive hit. What you say are facts pity Mr Speed can't stomach them.

 

[FuriousAngels]

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Because fapboy indra loves fapping Boruto aand when a question is raised he can't stomach it.

He cant say nothing. Sarada won her match. Which means Sarada is better.

 

[lndra]

So you've got nothing but fanfic then all that's proven is Boruto can't beat a faster opponent. That was a close one means exactly what is does if I sacked off with my plan I would've gotten hit. It doesn't mean Boruto magically made it in and was going to hit me.
I'm still waiting for the scans that confirm that shikidai says he won because of his ace? Or that it was a close fight?

You've drowned to such pathetic and sorry levels, I honesty feel bad for you. No matter how you try to spin it, the Manga will always be factual superior to what-ever opinion you have. I'm sorry but Shikadai claimed that Boruto was going to come in if he didn't stop him. Whether you see or not doesn't bother me though.

Posting about academy Sarada from the anime and using Boruto novels to prove speed there isn't any low you'd stoop to try and save face. Especially when we're discussing the manga.

And yet academy Sarada couldn't even dodge Shikadai's academy jutsu. So what's the issue here? At least Boruto could dodge the regular shadow possesion.

Kishimoto claimed that this arc was legitimate. So what's the issue here?

Accept the facts Shikidai speed 112 beat Boruto who was using 4 shadow clones and caught all of them and their locatuon clearly without sharingan. As for Boruto not using other jutsu that's his fault he's foolish enough not to either that or he's just all hype.
Sarada with 130 speed, CES, sharingan with its abilities , shuriken jutsu 4 in Marksmanship and ninjutsu kbowledge and IQ to boot would lose. A slower opponent beats Boruto but a faster 1 with a kekkei genkai boost would lose.
at the fanfic.

Accept the facts that Boruto only lost because he used the shadow clones, whilst Shikadai used two techniques. The manga clarified that Boruto was going to come in if he didn't stop his movements, which is something that Sarada couldn't even do anyway.

You're basically trying to argue Shikadai for Sarada, when she doesn't even come close. How many L's have I given you this week?

 

[salamander uchiha]

Shikadai was not keeping up with Boruto and his copies, he needed to to expand his shadow to stop him completely otherwise he would of lost. He states that it was a close one right before he stops him completely.

You're somehow insinuating that Sarada would be able to stop Boruto and paralyze his movements in one full swoop, but that's not possible. The fight actually showcased who would of won in that exchange if Shikadai and Boruto sticked to one technique.

Why do I even bother.

She has shuriken skill and marksmanship of 4 in case you forgot that's why your fanfic knows no bounds. She could easily defeat Boruto's clines without breaking a sweat.
Oh and sharingan to aid her if need be not that she would since Shikidai didn't being slower and that.

 

[FuriousAngels]

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You've drowned to such pathetic and sorry levels, I honesty feel bad for you. No matter how you try to spin it, the Manga will always be factual superior to what-ever opinion you have. I'm sorry but Shikadai claimed that Boruto was going to come in if he didn't stop him. Whether you see or not doesn't bother me though.


And yet academy Sarada couldn't even dodge Shikadai's academy jutsu. So what's the issue here? At least Boruto could dodge the regular shadow possesion.

Kishimoto claimed that this arc was legitimate. So what's the issue here?


Accept the facts that Boruto only lost because he used the shadow clones, whilst Shikadai used two techniques. The manga clarified that Boruto was going to come in if he didn't stop his movements, which is something that Sarada couldn't even do anyway.

You're basically trying to argue Shikadai for Sarada, when she doesn't even come close. How many L's have I given you this week?

Take a break ... your trying to hard. and take that L

 

[lndra]

Going by the first scan, Shikadai could at least dodge his attacks. That's enough to say Sarada should also be able to.

I don't even see Boruto nor Shikdai engaging or fighting in the first scan, and the scan I posted, Shikadai is standing in place while Boruto and his clones are dodging the shadows. Granted Shikadai ducked over a simple punch coming at him from a long distance, but granted he also stated that was a close one anyway.

She has shuriken skill and marksmanship of 4 in case you forgot that's why your fanfic knows no bounds. She could easily defeat Boruto's clines without breaking a sweat.
Oh and sharingan to aid her if need be not that she would since Shikidai didn't being slower and that.

Sarada got surprised by some robber and you think she can 'easily' take out his clones.

Smh.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Salamander:
"BORUTO LOST TO SHIKADAI WITH ALL THAT AGILITY AND SPEED, SO MUCH FODDER"

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Rofl :lol



Where was it stated that 'Shikadai' was keeping up with Boruto in CQC? Last time I checked Boruto was dodging his shadow possession jutsu technique, almost hit him before the shadow expanded. To which Shikadai even stated so.

This fandom never ceases to surprise me at how slow they are :Sparks:

Going by the first scan alone, it's obvious that Shikadai could at least ''anticipate'' his movements and make amendments by redirecting his shadows and so forth. Which proves just how Boruto's speed, regardless, was still tamed. The shadows aren't even fast, to be honest, and can be outran easily, but Boruto spent their fight running around, trying to avoid them. Or if he was that fast, he would've outrun them, and blitzed Shikadai who's supposedly way slower than Boruto. But this didn't happen. Only, Boruto ended up relying on a cheat device to circumvent losing.

I'm also amazed by your discourse. They're entertaining. Very much so when they're directed at someone else.

 

[salamander uchiha]

You've drowned to such pathetic and sorry levels, I honesty feel bad for you. No matter how you try to spin it, the Manga will always be factual superior to what-ever opinion you have. I'm sorry but Shikadai claimed that Boruto was going to come in if he didn't stop him. Whether you see or not doesn't bother me though.


And yet academy Sarada couldn't even dodge Shikadai's academy jutsu. So what's the issue here? At least Boruto could dodge the regular shadow possesion.

Kishimoto claimed that this arc was legitimate. So what's the issue here?


Accept the facts that Boruto only lost because he used the shadow clones, whilst Shikadai used two techniques. The manga clarified that Boruto was going to come in if he didn't stop his movements, which is something that Sarada couldn't even do anyway.

You're basically trying to argue Shikadai for Sarada, when she doesn't even come close. How many L's have I given you this week?

My issue isn't with the academy arc my issue is you use Boruto novel stats then try to relate them to the academy anime. If you can't see the fallacy in that then there no help for you.
So no scans to confirm it was a close fight them? Or that Shikidai won because of his ace? So accept yoy made that fanfic up to hype Boruto and we're all cool.

I repeat accept the facts Shikidai speed 112 beat Boruto who was using 4 shadow clones and caught all of them and their locatuon clearly without sharingan. As for Boruto not using other jutsu that's his fault he's foolish enough not to either that or he's just all hype.
Sarada with 130 speed, CES, sharingan with its abilities , shuriken jutsu 4 in Marksmanship and ninjutsu kbowledge and IQ to boot would lose. A slower opponent beats Boruto but a faster 1 with a kekkei genkai boost would lose.
at the fanfic.

Boruto could have 1000 jutsu like kakashi but if he lost because he didn't use them that's his fault not Shikidai's and neither does it prove Shikidai would've lost even if he did. I'll let you figure out what type of fallacy such conclusions fall under.

Bu the way when it turns into being about the other person and not the argument know you've already lost.

 

[lndra]

Going by the first scan alone, it's obvious that Shikadai could at least ''anticipate'' his movements and make amendments by redirecting his shadows and so forth.

Considering that Boruto is dodging Shikadai's shadow possession technique, there's no 'redirecting or anticipating' his movements. But rather he's controlling the situation by keeping Boruto on his toes.

Which proves just how Boruto's speed, regardless, was still tamed.

Granted Boruto himself was tamed because one wrong step would have resulted in him being possessed. Cautious.

The shadows aren't even fast, to be, and be outran easily, but Boruto spent their fight running around, trying to avoid them. Or if he was that fast, he would've outrun them, and blitzed Shikadai who's supposedly way slower than Boruto. But this didn't happen. Only, Boruto ended up relying on a cheat device to circumvent losing.

Show me a single scan or some kind of statement where it was stated that Shikadai's shadow possession techniques aren't 'fast' in the general sense, because the man himself captured almost ten girls in a single second, including Sarada. However, Boruto was simply playing it close.

If he had any belief in his abilities I suspect he would of been prepping to close the distance with a VanishingR rather than trying to get in closer. But that's not the importance of the debate.

I'm also amazed by your discourse. They're entertaining. Very much so when they're directed at someone else.

I'm more amazed at the reaching being done for the past six pages or so. I guess you could see it's a bit entertaining to root out the weeds, sort to speak ~

 

[FuriousAngels]

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Considering that Boruto is dodging Shikadai's shadow possession technique, there's no 'redirecting or anticipating' his movements. But rather he's controlling the situation by keeping Boruto on his toes.


Granted Boruto himself was tamed because one wrong step would have resulted in him being possessed. Cautious.


Show me a single scan or some kind of statement where it was stated that Shikadai's shadow possession techniques aren't 'fast' in the general sense, because the man himself captured almost ten girls in a single second, including Sarada. However, Boruto was simply playing it close.

If he had any belief in his abilities I suspect he would of been prepping to close the distance with a VanishingR rather than trying to get in closer. But that's not the importance of the debate.


I'm more amazed at the reaching being done for the past six pages or so. I guess you could see it's a bit entertaining to root out the weeds, sort to speak ~

What's your question exactly? Shikadai won , outskilled Boruto who even lost with cheating device? .... unreal...

 

[lndra]

My issue isn't with the academy arc my issue is you use Boruto novel stats then try to relate them to the academy anime. If you can't see the fallacy in that then there no help for you.
So no scans to confirm it was a close fight them? Or that Shikidai won because of his ace? So accept yoy made that fanfic up to hype Boruto and we're all cool.

None of this makes any sense. You aren't even speaking grammatically correct at this point. Nothing you say will change the facts I already stated. You're simply just backtracking and reaching, like you've been doing for the past 9 pages.

Like I've forgotten how you tried to prove that Sasuke's Sharingan was activated despite the Manga stating otherwise during that exchange. Alas.

I repeat accept the facts Shikidai speed 112 beat Boruto who was using 4 shadow clones and caught all of them and their locatuon clearly without sharingan. As for Boruto not using other jutsu that's his fault he's foolish enough not to either that or he's just all hype.

And I repeat, Shikadai wasn't even fighting Boruto in CQC. So I'm not sure why you're referencing speed when they were both using jutsu. But I don't expect much from you debate wise.

Sarada with 130 speed, CES, sharingan with its abilities , shuriken jutsu 4 in Marksmanship and ninjutsu kbowledge and IQ to boot would lose. A slower opponent beats Boruto but a faster 1 with a kekkei genkai boost would lose.

And yet none of this changes the fact that Boruto would spank Sarada in a 1v1. Sarada wouldn't even fair as well as Boruto did against Shikadai, at least in his case he could keep Shikadai close guarded with his clones. However, Sarada has no long range jutsu and only fights in CQC. So I don't really understand why you're trying to disprove Boruto for losing against Shikadai when he only used the shadow clone jutsu.

As if that holds any merit to current Boruto anyway. But pathetic people are pathetic through and through.

I rep at Boruto could have 1000 jutsu like kakashi but if he lost because he didn't use them that's his fault not Shikidai's and neither does it prove Shikidai would've lost even if he did. I'll let you figure out what type of fallacy such conclusions fall under.

Bu the way when it turns into being about the other person and not the argument know you've already lost.

Excuses excuses. You can't just accept facts. Boruto used one jutsu, Shikdai used two. That's why he won.

Boruto would spank that ass.

 

[Vulpini]

I don't know what BS you're saying in your post, but the Rasengan in terms of the normal one has always been the size of the palm.

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Using Anime screen shots is disturbing asf but I'm not gonna talk the rest of your nonsense. Too many illogical people in one thread :lol


> Says OrganicDinosaur's translation is 'mistranslated' despite OD translating everything since the Boruto Movie came around, not to mention parts of both Kakashi and Sakura's novel. Not to mention she even bothers to translate intercepts of the current Manga.

> Using a textbook definition when the Kanji relates to agility.

You're confirming what I said before.

Rasengan has always been the size of the palm? Nice fanfic.

This is Naruto's first ever rasengan in pt. 1:

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Clearly bigger than his palm. Boruto's rasengan is not even the same size as his palm, it is smaller than his palm. lol

Naruto's normal rasengan in the manga:

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Again, bigger than the palm.

Minato's rasengan:

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[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

I don't even see Boruto nor Shikdai engaging or fighting in the first scan, and the scan I posted, Shikadai is standing in place while Boruto and his clones are dodging the shadows. Granted Shikadai ducked over a simple punch coming at him from a long distance, but granted he also stated that was a close one anyway.

Shikadai still fairly displayed the ability to anticipate and dodge Boruto, and regardless of how he comments how it was a close one, he still could dodge him. Or if Boruto was that fast as you hype him, he would of blitzed him.

Shadow Possession Jutsu may be fast, but it's never caught anyone, not as long as you saw it coming. So it can't be that fast. Even Temari could dodge it and she wasn't even a Taijutsu-type.

 

[FuriousAngels]

Shikadai still fairly displayed the ability to anticipate and dodge Boruto

This is enough.