Asuma vs Hidan rematch

[EZQ]

Distance and location are the same as canon. The only difference is that this time Asuma has full knowledge.

No support for any of them. Both are alone.

Does Hidan win again?

 

[super yang]

asuma wins

he chops up everything until nothing moves

 

[KidGamer65]

Knowledge isn't why Asuma lost, so Asuma dies. He's a CQC fighter and ended up getting scratched, which was his downfall. The only thing knowledge can do is stop him from attacking Hidan once the Curse is active, but that doesn't even matter. Cause Hidan can attack himself.

 

[EZQ]

Knowledge isn't why Asuma lost, so Asuma dies. He's a CQC fighter and ended up getting scratched, which was his downfall. The only thing knowledge can do is stop him from attacking Hidan once the Curse is active, but that doesn't even matter. Cause Hidan can attack himself.

Knowledge was definitely a factor since when he was scratched they didn't know about his special ability. With knowledge he knows even a drop of blood means death.

We've seen asuma has 2 med range jutsus. He decided to go CQC because it's his special ability. He doing otherwise without knowledge would be out of character.

Tho i agree Hidan still wins but i want to see more opinions

 

[ToshiZO]

Asuma is not a bad matchup for Hidan with his hien. With intel he can make this tough on Hidan. Can even possibly get rid of Hidan's scythe rope with a clean cut. Leaving Hidan having to deal with Asuma's hien from close range. Asuma is someone you can easily lose limbs to and thats really the only way to immobilize Hidan, dismember him. But Hidan's too good of a CQC fighter to flat out get chopped up, he overwhelms Asuma with his stamina, and eventually he gets Asumas blood, if Asuma doesn't allow Hidan to enter the circle somehow he's still going to be in a slow downhill battle as he's the one who is gonna tire out first not Hidan.

 

[EZQ]

While hidan humilliated Asuma without knowledge, i think that with knowledge this is a high diff for Hidy.

Asuma had so much more potential

 

[KidGamer65]

Knowledge was definitely a factor since when he was scratched they didn't know about his special ability. With knowledge he knows even a drop of blood means death.

We've seen asuma has 2 med range jutsus. He decided to go CQC because it's his special ability. He doing otherwise without knowledge would be out of character.

Tho i agree Hidan still wins but i want to see more opinions

So? The whole point of a battle is to not get injured and defeat your opponent. Knowing that Hidan can fodderize him with a single scratch doesn't change the fact that Asuma was too weak to prevent Hidan from tagging him, and all his effective moves are close range. So there's no getting out of this one.

Asuma has 2 medium ranged jutsu that can do nothing to Hidan. Hidan already canonically tanked Ash Burning, and I don't recall the other one you speak of, but I'm pretty sure it's nothing spectacular.

 

[AkatsukiSwag]

Distance and location are the same as canon. The only difference is that this time Asuma has full knowledge.

No support for any of them. Both are alone.

Does Hidan win again?

Part of me wants to say yes Hidan wins again, because of the fact that he can't be killed and asuma can, however, in this case I would consider incapacitation a win, so if Asuma was able to cut him up and incapacitate him, he has a chance. Hidan however also has knowledge about asuma's style, and makes it even more dangerous

 

[EZQ]

So? The whole point of a battle is to not get injured and defeat your opponent. Knowing that Hidan can fodderize him with a single scratch doesn't change the fact that Asuma was too weak to prevent Hidan from tagging him, and all his effective moves are close range. So there's no getting out of this one.

Asuma has 2 medium ranged jutsu that can do nothing to Hidan. Hidan already canonically tanked Ash Burning, and I don't recall the other one you speak of, but I'm pretty sure it's nothing spectacular.

Asuma is not agile enough to prevent getting tagged. But with full knowledge that's not it, even if he gets tagged, he knows that he must not let Hidan gets the ritual.

Hidan can't kill Asuma without the ritual IMO since he lacks the feats. So with full knowledge it's:

Asuma still can't prevent getting tagged -> Hidan gets blood -> Asuma tries to prevent the ritual

To kill Hidan, Asuma knows he must get close to him since med range jutsus would get tanked, so losing blood is unavoidable. But is it the end of the battle? That's what's being argued. The ritual must be performed yet.

-Asuma can use burning ash to blind Hidan instead of burning him
-Just checked the manga and the one i tought it was asuma's wind jutsu it was ten ten with the sage's weapon

 

[AkatsukiSwag]

Asuma is not agile enough to prevent getting tagged. But with full knowledge that's not it, even if he gets tagged, he knows that he must not let Hidan gets the ritual.

Hidan can't kill Asuma without the ritual IMO since he lacks the feats. So with full knowledge it's:

Asuma still can't prevent getting tagged -> Hidan gets blood -> Asuma tries to prevent the ritual

To kill Hidan, Asuma knows he must get close to him since med range jutsus would get tanked, so losing blood is unavoidable. But is it the end of the battle? That's what's being argued. The ritual must be performed yet.

-Asuma can use burning ash to blind Hidan instead of burning him
-Just checked the manga and the one i tought it was asuma's wind jutsu it was ten ten with the sage's weapon

I agree, people need to remember that information can make or break a battle, and Asuma was a skilled Jonin.

 

[EZQ]

I made a mistake, it was in fact Asuma's jutsu

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It was strong enough to obliverate the raiton mask in one go. Definitely useful on this fight.

If its slicing, it can help to incapacitate hidan. If it's brute strenght, it can enhace Asuma's own fire tech to make it worse for hidan, i doubt that if his eyes are burned away he'd still be able to fight properly.

 

[Exaar]

During their cannon fight Hidan already had his ritual circle drawn before he had taken asuma's blood which was a massive time saver and advantage against someone with no info.

without such advantage and giving asuma knowledge makes the fight abit easier for asuma than it was in cannon

 

[EZQ]

During their cannon fight Hidan already had his ritual circle drawn before he had taken asuma's blood which was a massive time saver and advantage against someone with no info.

without such advantage and giving asuma knowledge makes the fight abit easier for asuma than it was in cannon

Do you think Asuma has what it takes to win?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Knowledge isn't why Asuma lost, so Asuma dies. He's a CQC fighter and ended up getting scratched, which was his downfall. The only thing knowledge can do is stop him from attacking Hidan once the Curse is active, but that doesn't even matter. Cause Hidan can attack himself.

or he can just stop him from setting up the curse/ keep him out of the curse circle...

full knowledge gives him those options.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Asuma wins. His circle requires time, which Asuma would never give him.

 

[Beans2]

Thinking that Asuma wins. Chakra knives that can cut through a tree and a boulder when thrown + physical strength able to block Samehada's strike when Kisame wields it means that he can cleanly cut Hidan's scythe to pieces bit by bit. This battle comes down solely to close combat since Hidan will never get the chance to prepare his ritual, nor does extending his scythe by its hilt do anything when Asuma will just chop it off. Asuma will get scratched, but Hidan's scythe is not landing a killing blow considering it was specifically designed to injure the opponent, not kill him, and Asuma is durable enough to tank his own Burning Ash.

The match ends with Asuma decapitating his opponent.

 

[Zexion~]

:lol Hidan can make a circle easily, only thing Asuma can do is try and decapitate Hidan. Which he can't do, Hidan still wins.

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke solos both because they're fodder

 

[EZQ]

Sasuke solos both because they're fodder

Don't you get tired of posting the same sentence over and over?

 

[EZQ]

:lol Hidan can make a circle easily, only thing Asuma can do is try and decapitate Hidan. Which he can't do, Hidan still wins.

I agree with Zexion Hidan still wins. People start a discussion