[Discussion] askin is IMO the strongest elite
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Not the strongest, but certainly the most hax.
For the record, his defeat list was: Nimaya, Grimmjow, Ichigo, Orihime, chad, yoruichi and Yusshiro.
For the record, his defeat list was: Nimaya, Grimmjow, Ichigo, Orihime, chad, yoruichi and Yusshiro.
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I'm never going to understand this line of thinking. Nimaya stabs the other three, Askin beats him up, "Oh, Askin isn't the strongest"
Because his power allowed him to survive an attack that would otherwise have killed him? He was lucky that aspect of his powers was spared because none of the elites had full powers at that point. If they did, Gerard would not have been defeated, and lille would not have been defeated. Pernida might have been but I doubt that too. Just look at how once they got their powers back, the destroyed the RG. Prior to them getting their full powers is not a good indication of their hax and thus their standing.
Gerard was only defeated by YH himself, that is a pretty clear indication that he is stronger than askin. Also, lille was defeated by pure plot, no one else except YH could have defeated him in his god form and no one could stop him from entering it.
You are the gerard hater lol.
I think that up to this point it's pretty clear that the giant miracle is the strongest of them by far (and just for the record, i totally hate him too)
edit: and the nimaya thing is because they didn't have all their powers yet. When ywach gave them their powers back, miracle was the ony that got the most OP.
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Gerard and Pernida are just extremely difficult to kill, but they can't just ignore all attacks entirely.
Lille is impossible to kill with ordinary weapons, and weapons that are designed to kill him only make him split into clones. Askin is completely and utterly immune to anyone he has been in the same room as for five minutes, and can only be defeated by good old fashioned surprise overkill.
Also Gerard was fighting the weakest opponents. Sure, Kenpachi Bankai, but he bailed out on his own and any of the elites could have survived that, or just wiped him out before Bankai's came into play.
After that, you have to honestly think that Toshiro Hitsugaya is stronger than Shunsui (Who is 100 years ahead of him), Mayuri (Who managed to defeat him without moving) and Urahara (who is Kisuke Motherf*cking Urahara)
And the fact that Yhwach was the one to take him out means nothing, otherwise Halibel would be the strongest Espada.
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Indeed, it is too bad that you will never be able to understand despite the detail I've explained it to people in this section.
You're just resorting to textbook cherry picking, really. Why you would use low-ball displays of the characters at their weakest instead of displays of the Schutzstaffel in their strongest forms (you know, the displays that actually matter) is beyond me. Especially when the high-end displays confirm Gerard, Lille, and arguably uryu are far superior to Askin.
Ah, but you'll never understand so don't mind me.
We're in agreement and let me state again why Askin performing better against Nimaiya than the other three Elites doesn't mean that he's stronger in base or in Vollstandig. Askin watched Nimaiya kill Gerard, Lille, and Pernida and determined the true nature of Sayabuse, something that Lille couldn't do because Lille did not observe Sayabuse as much as Askin did (or he just wasn't as perceptive). Understanding correlates with reacting, as shown in Byakuya vs. Zommari and as stated by Lille himself when he shot the Senjumaru clone. This also means that he was unable to keep track of Sayabuse's slashes until Pernida was killed; therefore, if Nimaiya had not targeted Askin last, Askin would have taken Lille, Gerard, and Pernida's positions.
Even though Askin could react to Sayabuse, he still could not dodged regardless. However, because he's an endurance monster unlike the other Sternritters, he was able to not get one-shotted. Nimaiya thought he was dead, and Askin caught him off guard with the Deathdealing as Nimaiya was setting his sights on Yhwach. After that point, Nimaiya's speed dropped and Askin no longer had to fear him. However, Tenjiro restored Nimaiya to full health and Nimaiya instantly speedblitzed Askin. This shows that Askin was not superior to the other Schutzstaffel at all and he just had the skillset to take down Nimaiya under the right circumstances.
And of course the other problem I have with is that askin is the third strongest character.
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Lol WTF? Kenpachi shitstomps Lille and all his clones. And he totally kills copy-aizen.
Dude, that's the most stupid thing you've posted on.. your life.
Kenpachi with just his shikai and eyepatch off, is already on shunsui's tier. Bankai? lmao. He is completely on a different tier from the other captains, shunsui included.
Pernida and Gerard are the only 2 that (because of hax) would never lose to kenpachi
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When i say the other elites could survive Kepachi's Bankai, it's because all of them have some BS Invincibility. Pernida regenerates from anything, Lille can't be hit with physical attacks, and Askin can make himself immune to death. And then Kenpachi uses too much power and rips his own arm off.
And i'm pretty sure i've posted some stupider shit than this. Like that time i said Sakura had Flying Thunder God.
Lille is the leader of the schutzstaffel for a reason I think. Askin also said this
"Seeing as how even lille got his ass handed to him..."
This implies that lille getting defeated means all the other schutzstaffel are also expected to have a rough time. Basically, lille is the bar setting the standard here, if he goes down, they go down. I also don't see how anyone other than YH and plot-sword can possibly defeat lille or gerard. Even kyorakus insta-death bankai didn't kill him despite being a non-physical attack. I suspect that attack could kill askin and even gerard (lille didn't die because he is a god, gerard isnt, he just gets stronger when taking damage so I suspect an attack like that would have worked, but even if it doesn't i put lille above gereard because lille can damage gerard, but gerard can't even touch him.)
Askin is being overrated here and I think it is because Urahara was the one to defeat him and to make Urahara look better, his opponent must have been the best... this is just urahara wank though.
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"Seeing as how even lille got his ass handed to him..."
This implies that lille getting defeated means all the other schutzstaffel are also expected to have a rough time. Basically, lille is the bar setting the standard here, if he goes down, they go down. I also don't see how anyone other than YH and plot-sword can possibly defeat lille or gerard. Even kyorakus insta-death bankai didn't kill him despite being a non-physical attack. I suspect that attack could kill askin and even gerard (lille didn't die because he is a god, gerard isnt, he just gets stronger when taking damage so I suspect an attack like that would have worked, but even if it doesn't i put lille above gereard because lille can damage gerard, but gerard can't even touch him.)
Askin is being overrated here and I think it is because Urahara was the one to defeat him and to make Urahara look better, his opponent must have been the best... this is just urahara wank though.
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Lillie is by far the strongest intangibility and attacks that ignore durability actually just erasing you from existence
Lillie would destroy bakai kenpachi with no effort
He's also stronger than gerard
Lillie would destroy bakai kenpachi with no effort
He's also stronger than gerard
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Askin has the best resume no doubt. He might be the most hax of the bunch and that is saying something cause they are all hax as ****.
Funny cause everytime an elite would fight, I'd think this is the strongest elite, but then the next battle would have me questioning that. Askin I originally felt was the weakest, but after laying waste to Grimmjow, Ichigo, Yoruichi in mere seconds and even Urahara the only character Aizen ever placed in the same breath as himself, went all out and yet still needed help (Grimmjow) defeating him, to needing help again (Nel) even after "defeating" him just to survive, I started to think maybe he was the strongest.
Funny cause everytime an elite would fight, I'd think this is the strongest elite, but then the next battle would have me questioning that. Askin I originally felt was the weakest, but after laying waste to Grimmjow, Ichigo, Yoruichi in mere seconds and even Urahara the only character Aizen ever placed in the same breath as himself, went all out and yet still needed help (Grimmjow) defeating him, to needing help again (Nel) even after "defeating" him just to survive, I started to think maybe he was the strongest.