Ashura's Chakra + Indra's Chakra + Hamura's Chakra can Activate the 9 Tomoe Rinnegan

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This is a speculation thread.

So like anyone who has read the manga should know that by mixing Ashura's chakra and/or DNA and Indra's chakra or DNA equates to the power of the sage of six paths. And anyone who has these trait can awaken the rinnegan. Now we see that Hagoromo's rinnegan is inherited from his mother's red sharingan like rinnegan. Hagoromo himself is half the power of Kaguya, the other half being Hamura. Similarly Hagoromo's two sons are each half the power of himself. The question is can Hagoromo's rinnegan be taken to the next level without having to absorb the shinju's eye fruit? Like Madara did by mixing Hashirama's meat into his body an later awakening the rinnegan?

Hagoromo has the rinnegan in both of his eyes aswell as a mark on his forehead similar to his mother's third eye but without tomoe. Is it possible that this mark can mutate into the 9 tomoed sharingan/rinnegan? If someone in Hagoromo's position would be interested in Kaguya's power can that person infuse his/her chakra with that of Hamura's or a yin and yang equivalent to his power like Ashura and Indra are to Hagoromo?

I would imagine that by somehow acquiring the byakugan while you have rinnegan could cause a mutation in the mark and transform it into an actual eye. Transmigrating the rinnegan's power to the center of the forehead awakening 3 tomoe in each sclaera for each eye. In total awakening 6 tomoe. While the eyes that carried the power of the rinnegan simplify into the byakugan. Hamura's power likely more than just his byakugan. I imagine that he also posseses a physical energy like his brother unique to himself. If we were to take this physical energy and infuse it with the rest of the energies that would finally cause the rinnegan to awaken all 9 tomoe.

I do wonder if you are Hyuga and start with the sharingan were would you keep both the sharingan and the byakugan? I suppose you would have byakugan as your standard eyes and if you manage to produce the chakra that the Uchiha have you would awaken the sharingan. The sharingan would look like an Uchiha's sharingan only that it can be enhanced by the underneath byakugan granting the near 360 degree vision and the unique details that the byakugan can pick up.

If you are the decendant that inherited Hamura's physical power and you mix your dna or chakra with someone like hashirama I guess you'll become terribly stronger than him and match Kaguya's physical power.

If the physical part of kaguya manages to get the sharingan it could be either of these options: simply awaken the standard rinnegan in both eyes. Awaken a more advance version of the rinnegan. Like it having three tomoe. Grow a third eye with a three tomoed rinnegan and have standard eyes. If Kaguya's spiritual part would gain access to one of the physical powers I guess the byakugan would stay were it is and the both sharingan appear in the forehead in the form of a rinnegan with six tomoe.

Also imagine a hyuga transmigrant with a senju transmigrant and a uchiha transmigrant with a transmigran of those who shall not be named because Kyshi won't deny or confirm if they truly are Hamura's decendants. What kind of unique powers would these develop?

You get the gist of what I'm talking about. What are your thoughts about what I'm saying?
 
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So you're saying Hagaromo and Hamura = 9 tomoe?

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Wait, Indra + Ashura = Hagoromo /+ Hagoromo
= 9 tomeo rinnegan? :|

Lol didn't read correctly XD
You might be right, yeah. :'D

Yeah, I imagine if Madara could mix both of Hagoromo's power resulting in the rinnegan Madara himself, Hagoromo or someone at their level couod attempt to do the same and the result could potentially be that the purple rinnegan transforms into the red 9 tomoe rinnegan just like the sharingan transformed into the rinnegan by fusing with a senju transmigrant.
 

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Yeah my point is if you mix Hagoromo and Hamura's chakras it could result in the rinnegan acquiring tomoes. Pretty much the same way Madara awoke his Rinnegan from his sharingan by mixing into his body Hashirama senju's cells which contained Ashura's chakra. The Rinnegan doesn't proceed like the sharingan doesn't proceed until certain requirements are met.
 

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Then how did Madara get it?
By being more direct and instead of searching for Hamura he went straight to the Juubi which had the necessary ingredients to acquire the third eye. However Sasuke has a 6 tomoed rinnegan on his left eye as if Hagoromo had certain powers over the third eye but not to the extent as her mother.
 
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I don't think so, You just need both rinnegan and you'll awaken the 3rd eye :l
Rinnegan does not grant you the eye of Kaguya aswell. You only get Rinnegan. It is true that Rinnegan it is all that takes to summon the ten tails and from there you just wait for it to turn into the tree and once the flower blossoms you can absorb it an acquire the third eye. I'm discussing other possibilities besides absorbing the shinju. Like maybe the rinnegan can acquire tomoe if Hagoromo's chakra and Hamura's chakra mix. Similarly like how Madara mixed his own chakra being of Indra and Hashirama's chakra being of Ashura awakening Hagoromo's power. Similarly since Hagoromo and Hamura are each half of Kaguya's power if their chakras mix they can each awaken the 9 tomoed eye while also acquiring the byakugan and other powers that Hamura might have. I just want to discuss if this is a possibility which I think it is. That is why Hagoromo's eyes are tomoeless and purple because he lacks his brother's power that is half of Kaguya's power. Like you cannot advance your eternal mayenko sharingan any further until you mix it with the senju's chakra.
 

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Something is....off about you.

Anyways, it's actually seems possible as to why Hagoromo only had the flat Rinnegan. Even though both of Kaguya's Third and Rinnegan were referred to as the same eyes, one had the Tomoes while the other did not. Although Hamura and Hagoromo's chakra may be the same as Ashura and Indra. Nardo and Sauce were compared to Hago and Hamu and not just Ashura and Indra. So it's possible that Hagoromo had Hamura's chakra, thus giving Sasuke the same type of Rinnegan.
 

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Rinnegan does not grant you the eye of Kaguya aswell. You only get Rinnegan. It is true that Rinnegan it is all that takes to summon the ten tails and from there you just wait for it to turn into the tree and once the flower blossoms you can absorb it an acquire the third eye. I'm discussing other possibilities besides absorbing the shinju. Like maybe the rinnegan can acquire tomoe if Hagoromo's chakra and Hamura's chakra mix. Similarly like how Madara mixed his own chakra being of Indra and Hashirama's chakra being of Ashura awakening Hagoromo's power. Similarly since Hagoromo and Hamura are each half of Kaguya's power if their chakras mix they can each awaken the 9 tomoed eye while also acquiring the byakugan and other powers that Hamura might have. I just want to discuss if this is a possibility which I think it is. That is why Hagoromo's eyes are tomoeless and purple because he lacks his brother's power that is half of Kaguya's power. Like you cannot advance your eternal mayenko sharingan any further until you mix it with the senju's chakra.
Absorbing the shinju was never said to be a requirement but I can see where you're getting at.
 

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Absorbing the shinju was never said to be a requirement but I can see where you're getting at.
That's exactly what I'm saying. There could be other existing ways of acquiring the 9 tomoe rinnegan. That just happens to be the way Madara obtained it. I was just saying that acquiring the standard rinnegan does not atomatically grants you the third eye aswell.

Something is....off about you.

Anyways, it's actually seems possible as to why Hagoromo only had the flat Rinnegan. Even though both of Kaguya's Third and Rinnegan were referred to as the same eyes, one had the Tomoes while the other did not. Although Hamura and Hagoromo's chakra may be the same as Ashura and Indra. Nardo and Sauce were compared to Hago and Hamu and not just Ashura and Indra. So it's possible that Hagoromo had Hamura's chakra, thus giving Sasuke the same type of Rinnegan.
Off topic but what exactly I have off? Just asking. Is it the way I construct my sentences? Are you under the impression that we have met before?
 
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