ashura kurama avatar vs PS

[EZQ]

DHOH, the answer you must give is simple.

Sasuke used Bijuus to fill his Susano. So, are you saying now Sasuke would fill susano with his own chakra at the same scale he did at vote 2?

Just answer that question with yes or no please

 

[DHOH]

DHOH, the answer you must give is simple.

Sasuke used Bijuus to fill his Susano. So, are you saying now Sasuke would fill susano with his own chakra at the same scale he did at vote 2?

Just answer that question with yes or no please

It's not that simple when your saying so much stuff that's wrong...
1. Sasuke did not fill his Susanoo with bijuus.. The bijuu were sealed in CT. Sasuke filled his Susanoo with with a chakra that came from a combination of the bijuu..
2. Yes. Sasuke would fill Susanoo with his own chakra at the same scale at vote 2.

 

[TheSages456]

sasuke gets one shotted. sasuke has no way to match the power of the asura avatar fueled by the worlds natural energy without biju PS.

 

[DHOH]

There's many factors that plays in to proven Sasuke can fill his Susanoo...

1. Kaguya could use her deminsion jumping five or six times before it takes a toll on her. Rember this is Kaguya who has 8.5 bijuu, Madara's chakra, the shinju chakra,some of the SA chakra, and her own..

2. Vote 2 Sasuke was low on chakra, the bijuu chakra was getting used all the war by obito,Madara and Kaguya.. Meaning they couldn't be close to 100% before Sasuke got to them.

Sasuke chakra grew tremendously over 15 years and the proof is in the last and Boruto movies. To think that he couldn't fill his own Susanoo is crazy..

 

[lndra]

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Sasuke didn't use Bijuu chakra he combined to make a completely different chakra.. What is hard for o understand? The link practically says it.

2. They receive there powers from Kaguya and she also happens to be the jyuubi.. Yea I understand.

3.Sasuke doesn't buff his own chakra. Sasuke chakra grows stronger on its own, thus buffs itself.. Orochimaru,obito and Karin all stated they can feel is power/chakra growing.

4. I guess not lol.

5. The key word you refuse to accept is combined, if Sasuke didn't combine the bijuu chakra you would have a point. I can prove he didn't use bijuu chakra to make the first one at vote so I don't see why that would change... Sasuke didn't have mastery over his rinnengan at vote.

1. That doesn't even make sense... "Sasuke didn't use Bijuu Chakar" stopping right there. He used Bijuu chakra and merged it with his Susano'o.

2. She only became that monster later through their Adulthood. And from memory, it wasn't something that happened from the start.

3. So basically he can't upgrade his power like I said before. It would be the same level as his PS, but he would capable of doing the same techniques. I-E; Indra Arrow

4. The thing is DHOH, it only said that he was merging the disseminated chakra. The Susano'o acted as the receiving vessel for this large amount of Bijuu chakra, which took in the alien power and changed the Susano'o shape.

There's no reason to think that Sasuke couldn't have done the same thing with less amounts of Bijuu Chakra.

 

[LuckyMan]

Ashura avatar decimates non Bijuu PS. Imo Naruto grew weaker over time and lost the ability to collect that amount of Nature Energy though. Though he does have Full Kurama now

Yeah he also grew weaker and forgot how to add futon to Rasengan to make Rasenshuriken too right?

 

[DHOH]

1. That doesn't even make sense... "Sasuke didn't use Bijuu Chakar" stopping right there. He used Bijuu chakra and merged it with his Susano'o.

2. She only became that monster later through their Adulthood. And from memory, it wasn't something that happened from the start.

3. So basically he can't upgrade his power like I said before. It would be the same level as his PS, but he would capable of doing the same techniques. I-E; Indra Arrow

4. The thing is DHOH, it only said that he was merging the disseminated chakra. The Susano'o acted as the receiving vessel for this large amount of Bijuu chakra, which took in the alien power and changed the Susano'o shape.

There's no reason to think that Sasuke couldn't have done the same thing with less amounts of Bijuu Chakra.

1. Let me rephrase but I swear you're playing dumb for no reason. Sasuke combined the bijuu chakra then merged it with his Susanoo.. So technically he didn't use bijuu chakra. After he combined it was a different kind of chakra.. I know you know this.

2. We know where her power came from, we know what she eventually become..

3. Doing Indra's arrow is proof of the upgrade.. If Humanoid Sasanoo can do something that normal PS can't do is a upgrade.

4. Lol the link I post specifically said combine. It took in a different kind of chakra which cause the shape change alone with the other upgrades.

He could've done the same with less chakra being combined but not with bijuu chakra alone without combining it.

 

[itsxtrayy]

i want an answer what does sasuke do?

You really want to know what a smart unnerfed Sasuke would do? After Naruto threw his jutsu Sasuke would switch places with Naruto and let his own attack hit him, or if Naruto is too far away, Sasuke switches with the attack before it hits him and Naruto waste's a huge amount of chakra. He doesn't have to match it when evading it is smarter.

 

[bowflex]

It's not that simple when your saying so much stuff that's wrong...
1. Sasuke did not fill his Susanoo with bijuus.. The bijuu were sealed in CT. Sasuke filled his Susanoo with with a chakra that came from a combination of the bijuu..
2. Yes. Sasuke would fill Susanoo with his own chakra at the same scale at vote 2.

lmfaoo please, how does sasuke fill his susano with no bijuu chakra at the same scale as vote 2? ah man any proof?

 

[DHOH]

lmfaoo please, how does sasuke fill his susano with no bijuu chakra at the same scale as vote 2? ah man any proof?

Read the thread before asking dumb questions..

 

[Ripple Hole]

It's not that simple when your saying so much stuff that's wrong...
1. Sasuke did not fill his Susanoo with bijuus.. The bijuu were sealed in CT. Sasuke filled his Susanoo with with a chakra that came from a combination of the bijuu..
2. Yes. Sasuke would fill Susanoo with his own chakra at the same scale at vote 2.

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[lndra]

Lol, dude, the obvious answer is that after Naruto throws his attack Sasuke switches with Naruto and let's his own attack hit him or if Naruto is too far away Sasuke switches with the attack after it's thrown and Naruto wastes a boatload of chakra. The op didn't ask how does Sasuke match it he asked what does Sasuke do, he switches with it or Naruto.

The thing is our conversation has nothing to do with that, though. Were talking mainly about BPS.

I'll reply to you later DHOH, on my phone right now.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

The reason why BPS was so powerful, was because Sasuke pulled potent chakra from external sources. His own chakra is enough to stalemate Naruto's regular KA. But if Naruto increased his own power, Sasuke's own chakra cannot provide a buff on that level when the Susano'o is already created from that same chakra. Speaking theoretically if he were capable of doing that.

So logically Asura Avatar is stronger.

logically, Senjutsu enhanced Asura Avatar is stronger. Ashura Avatar is still just a regular avatar, just with 6 hands and 3 heads. Which is basically just shape manipulation done on a regular avatar.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

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lmfaoo please, how does sasuke fill his susano with no bijuu chakra at the same scale as vote 2? ah man any proof?

Haha. LOL. Let me rephrase that in a way that might make more sense. Sasuke has been shown to recreate his susanoo multiple times after it has been destroyed. Adult Sasuke can use clones. From VOTE2 and Boruto movie, we know he simply has to put something in susanoo to make look like BPS mode. Logically he can create two susanoo's with a clone and have one wrap around the other, BPS style. Technically, he would be filling the second susanoo with the first susanoo(which is made out of his chakra) so DHOH would technically be right with his assumption.
Not sure how the double susanoo would rank power wise, but Sasuke would be filling BPS with his chakra.

 

[bowflex]

Haha. LOL. Let me rephrase that in a way that might make more sense. Sasuke has been shown to recreate his susanoo multiple times after it has been destroyed. Adult Sasuke can use clones. From VOTE2 and Boruto movie, we know he simply has to put something in susanoo to make look like BPS mode. Logically he can create two susanoo's with a clone and have one wrap around the other, BPS style. Technically, he would be filling the second susanoo with the first susanoo(which is made out of his chakra) so DHOH would technically be right with his assumption.
Not sure how the double susanoo would rank power wise, but Sasuke would be filling BPS with his chakra.

u and dhoh need to stop with the fanfics lol

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

u and dhoh need to stop with the fanfics lol

LOL. I gave you an actual possible scenario that's weeeeeeelllllll within Sasuke's abilities. Call it fanfic all you want, it is fanfic actually . but if madara can make clones with susanoo so can Sasuke.

 

[bowflex]

LOL. I gave you an actual possible scenario that's weeeeeeelllllll within Sasuke's abilities. Call it fanfic all you want, it is fanfic actually . but if madara can make clones with susanoo so can Sasuke.

lool so u are basing this off madara making susano clones? :lol

 

[Ripple Hole]

Haha. LOL. Let me rephrase that in a way that might make more sense. Sasuke has been shown to recreate his susanoo multiple times after it has been destroyed. Adult Sasuke can use clones. From VOTE2 and Boruto movie, we know he simply has to put something in susanoo to make look like BPS mode. Logically he can create two susanoo's with a clone and have one wrap around the other, BPS style. Technically, he would be filling the second susanoo with the first susanoo(which is made out of his chakra) so DHOH would technically be right with his assumption.
Not sure how the double susanoo would rank power wise, but Sasuke would be filling BPS with his chakra.

Susanoo in the first place is his own chakra, him throwing it over a clone(which is just him splitting his reserves)
is no different than 1 him having a Susanoo active without anything in it. It's literally the same amount of chakra.
When he absorbed the beasts it was him + the beasts, before the beasts came into the equations his PS was the
standard, meaning him by himself won't recreate BPS.

Even if it did recreate another PS it wouldn't be even a tad bit stronger than the standard because the amount
of chakra going into it would be no different from the standard's.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Susanoo in the first place is his own chakra, him throwing it over a clone(which is just him splitting his reserves)
is no different than 1 him having a Susanoo active without anything in it. It's literally the same amount of chakra.
When he absorbed the beasts it was him + the beasts, before the beasts came into the equations his PS was the
standard, meaning him by himself won't recreate BPS.

Even if it did recreate another PS it wouldn't be even a tad bit stronger than the standard because the amount
of chakra going into it would be no different from the standard's.

Like I said at the end of that post, don't know how it would rank power wise. I was just saying that Sasuke can in fact fill it with his chakra. Doesn't mean it would be stronger.

Anyways, isn't that what ashura avatar is. Naruto made two clones and two avatars and combined them into one. But I think what everyone is really talking about is senjutsu enhanced ashura avatar.

 

[ARGUS]

Ashura avatar one shots.

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